hey guys,
anyone know if stainless braided brake lines are legal for street registered cars in NSW?
Che Castro ankle straps
1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Jon
braided lines
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
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I'm only guessing John, but they are sold and used on road registered cars.. and they are better-safer than non braided..
I would have to say YES ...
Lee
I would have to say YES ...
Lee
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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
Yes My mate hasss lines braided ADR legal lines I just got mine last week , the machine cost over 50K then stock 40K
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
Its a gray area, Ive been told no unless they are OEM
Steve
Its a gray area, Ive been told no unless they are OEM
Steve
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
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Does some idiot think they are inferior???
to rubber lines...
Lee
to rubber lines...
Lee
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Che Castro ankle straps
1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
I posted the question on performance forums and people say they are compliant http://pforums.company-hosting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67182256
I actually got some made at ENZED in mascot yesterday. They have the proper crimped fittings done by a big machine, have the ADR compliant rubber sleeves and were pressure tested to 3000 PSI and marked as passed. The guy said they were ADR compliant and legal.
I actually got some made at ENZED in mascot yesterday. They have the proper crimped fittings done by a big machine, have the ADR compliant rubber sleeves and were pressure tested to 3000 PSI and marked as passed. The guy said they were ADR compliant and legal.
Jon
Secoh Fahrvergnugen
926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
it depends on the construction of the line ends Lee. only one construction type of braded brake lines are ADR approved, and none of them are the imported ones.
Carter's Clutches in Maitland make ADR approved lines road legal. they make them to your specificaton and will post them to you if you don't live in Newie.
Carter's Clutches in Maitland make ADR approved lines road legal. they make them to your specificaton and will post them to you if you don't live in Newie.
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
The legal ones carry tags. Usually yellow and have to stay on the lines.
Gibbo Custom Title Time!
1,685 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
Damn, does anyone kow about QLD?
I was planning to full fit out my motor eventually with goodridge lines.
Cheers
I was planning to full fit out my motor eventually with goodridge lines.
Cheers
Che Castro ankle straps
1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
never heard anything about the yellow tags?
Anyway they guy yesterday crimped them and pressure tested them, they were then stamped with a punch on the fittings with a number and a marking.
Anyway they guy yesterday crimped them and pressure tested them, they were then stamped with a punch on the fittings with a number and a marking.
Jon
Flintstones Custom Title Time!
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Jon,
speak to a qualified automotive engineer and he'll tell you.
cheers
speak to a qualified automotive engineer and he'll tell you.
cheers
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
Lee; The reason that the RTA think they are inferior is because in a street application the braided mesh sleeve will allow the ingress of small particles from road grime, these particles will eventually chafe the nylon line underneath causing a failure.
Steve
Lee; The reason that the RTA think they are inferior is because in a street application the braided mesh sleeve will allow the ingress of small particles from road grime, these particles will eventually chafe the nylon line underneath causing a failure.
Steve
jnr356 Wolfsburg Wizard
603 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
don't know about pressure testing but the only ones compliant for racing have the tags on them which means with both ends secured they must be able to do 1000 revoloutions without any damage(so i'm told)
seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
The ones I have here are stamped for ADR ( australia wide ) The tag is red / yellow / blue / gun metal Brian will put what you like on there on the day .
How about I post a photo for you to see
How about I post a photo for you to see
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Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber
352 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·
When we were looking at fitting them to our bikes, the legal ones all had either a clear or coloured sheath over the braid, so I'm guessing that was to address the chaffing issue that Steve mentioned.
Che Castro ankle straps
1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
yeah if you could post a photo that'd be good
Jon
Che Castro ankle straps
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yeah the lines I have, have a clear nylon sheath on top of the braiding which prevents crap getting in
Jon
PurpleT3 Fahrvergnugen
880 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·
Braided brake hoses are made with teflon inner lining not nylon. The main problems with them are that you cannot see the lining to check it's condition and in some circumstances the stainless steel wires snap penetrating the lining, causing them to leak. Take a look at this article, it's US based but outlines the basics. http://www.shotimes.com/SHO4steelbrakelines.html
I would also check with your insurance company before fitting them as insurance companies can often be fussier than the roads authority.
I would also check with your insurance company before fitting them as insurance companies can often be fussier than the roads authority.
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Gibbo Custom Title Time!
1,685 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
Good info on that link, cheers
So I gather that braided oil lines are ok to use?
So I gather that braided oil lines are ok to use?
PurpleT3 Fahrvergnugen
880 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·
I don't know, where do you plan on using them? Again, funny as it might sound I would advise my insurance co. of any such changes as there would be nothing worse than having an accident and being told "oh, that's not standard, sorry your policy is voided"
I was once quoted about $50/m for braided fuel hose and that was enough to put me off.
I was once quoted about $50/m for braided fuel hose and that was enough to put me off.
Ain't nothin' like the wind in your hair.
Che Castro ankle straps
1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
good link there.
Might give shannons a call and see what they think.
Stainless for oil lines is fine. They are under much much less pressure. Brakes are somewhere around up to 3000 PSI.
[Edited on 4-11-2004 by Che Castro]
Might give shannons a call and see what they think.
Stainless for oil lines is fine. They are under much much less pressure. Brakes are somewhere around up to 3000 PSI.
[Edited on 4-11-2004 by Che Castro]
Jon
Che Castro ankle straps
1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
yep its the fittings that cost $$$. the line isnt really that exxy.
I did used to have this rubber hose which had rubber in the inner layer, then a layer of stainless braiding then another rubber layer on the outside.
I did used to have this rubber hose which had rubber in the inner layer, then a layer of stainless braiding then another rubber layer on the outside.
Jon
AdrianH Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
I did all my fuel from the frame forks back, in a -6 line through to the carbs, and all the oil lines in a -8 (just pump - filter - case) and it cost about 350 (NZ$). Includes the block for a fuel pressure gauge.
After having these on a car its hard to go back to the rubber crap.
After having these on a car its hard to go back to the rubber crap.
Che Castro ankle straps
1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
heres a good link
http://www.braidedhoses.com.au/
they are a group of brake shops around oz that do street legal lines
http://www.braidedhoses.com.au/
they are a group of brake shops around oz that do street legal lines
Jon