hey guys,
anyone know if stainless braided brake lines are legal for street registered cars in NSW?
Jon
I'm only guessing John, but they are sold and used on road registered cars.. and they are better-safer than non braided..
I would have to say YES ...
Lee
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Yes My mate hasss lines braided ADR legal lines I just got mine last week , the machine cost over 50K then stock 40K
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Hi
Its a gray area, Ive been told no unless they are OEM
Steve
Does some idiot think they are inferior???
to rubber lines...
Lee
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I posted the question on performance forums and people say they are compliant
http://pforums.company-hosting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67182256
I actually got some made at ENZED in mascot yesterday. They have the proper crimped fittings done by a big machine, have the ADR compliant rubber sleeves and were pressure tested to 3000 PSI and marked as passed. The guy said they were ADR compliant and legal.
Jon
it depends on the construction of the line ends Lee. only one construction type of braded brake lines are ADR approved, and none of them are the imported ones.
Carter's Clutches in Maitland make ADR approved lines road legal. they make them to your specificaton and will post them to you if you don't live in Newie.
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!
The legal ones carry tags. Usually yellow and have to stay on the lines.
Damn, does anyone kow about QLD?
I was planning to full fit out my motor eventually with goodridge lines.
Cheers
never heard anything about the yellow tags?
Anyway they guy yesterday crimped them and pressure tested them, they were then stamped with a punch on the fittings with a number and a marking.
Jon
Jon,
speak to a qualified automotive engineer and he'll tell you.
cheers
Hi
Lee; The reason that the RTA think they are inferior is because in a street application the braided mesh sleeve will allow the ingress of small particles from road grime, these particles will eventually chafe the nylon line underneath causing a failure.
Steve
don't know about pressure testing but the only ones compliant for racing have the tags on them which means with both ends secured they must be able to do 1000 revoloutions without any damage(so i'm told)
The ones I have here are stamped for ADR ( australia wide ) The tag is red / yellow / blue / gun metal Brian will put what you like on there on the day .
How about I post a photo for you to see
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When we were looking at fitting them to our bikes, the legal ones all had either a clear or coloured sheath over the braid, so I'm guessing that was to address the chaffing issue that Steve mentioned.
yeah if you could post a photo that'd be good
Jon
yeah the lines I have, have a clear nylon sheath on top of the braiding which prevents crap getting in
Jon
Braided brake hoses are made with teflon inner lining not nylon. The main problems with them are that you cannot see the lining to check it's condition and in some circumstances the stainless steel wires snap penetrating the lining, causing them to leak. Take a look at this article, it's US based but outlines the basics.
http://www.shotimes.com/SHO4steelbrakelines.html
I would also check with your insurance company before fitting them as insurance companies can often be fussier than the roads authority.
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Good info on that link, cheers
So I gather that braided oil lines are ok to use?
I don't know, where do you plan on using them? Again, funny as it might sound I would advise my insurance co. of any such changes as there would be nothing worse than having an accident and being told "oh, that's not standard, sorry your policy is voided"
I was once quoted about $50/m for braided fuel hose and that was enough to put me off.
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good link there.
Might give shannons a call and see what they think.
Stainless for oil lines is fine. They are under much much less pressure. Brakes are somewhere around up to 3000 PSI.
[Edited on 4-11-2004 by Che Castro]
Jon
yep its the fittings that cost $$$. the line isnt really that exxy.
I did used to have this rubber hose which had rubber in the inner layer, then a layer of stainless braiding then another rubber layer on the outside.
Jon
I did all my fuel from the frame forks back, in a -6 line through to the carbs, and all the oil lines in a -8 (just pump - filter - case) and it cost about 350 (NZ$). Includes the block for a fuel pressure gauge.
After having these on a car its hard to go back to the rubber crap.
heres a good link
http://www.braidedhoses.com.au/
they are a group of brake shops around oz that do street legal lines
Jon