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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#325314
i think ill end up going along the same lines as das with the foil backed sound deadener in the back
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#327082
Hi All,

I just built 7 sound proof teaching studios for my mates music shop..he got this new stuff called WAVEBAR.

It looks like lino and can be cut the same..comes in 8kg per m2 or 4 kg m2. It absorbs the sound, not reflects it. The rooms we built are awesome thanks to one layer of this stuff inbetween each room. I have some for my car..you can cut it and use it in the floor or on the fire wall and it is only about 5mm thick.

Matt

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#327183
How much weight would you guys add to your cars in the name of sound proofing?

Just wondering...
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#327436
weight is no an problem for me with the t4 2L
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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ruckus Veteran Volks Folk

2,118 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#327447
boof how expensive is that stuff?

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#328106
barls wrote:weight is no an problem for me with the t4 2L
Yeh, I'm gonna be tootling along in my glorious 40HP! Every gram counts! I usually take a sh!t before I drive so the car goes faster!
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boersch Wolfsburg Wizard

407 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#328109
I usually take a sh!t before I drive so the car goes faster!
hahaha, you could make a killing selling vw stickers with that line

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#328110
thats ok mate its not for everyone to modify i salute you for keeping it stock
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#328136
lol

I only keep it stock coz my wallet and my front drums tell me to do so!
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#328141
yes mate ive been there but will never go back
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#328321

I have to have front disc brakes and a collapsable steering column...

I also like bumper bars....
& electric fuel pumps and electronic ignitions.....
& H4 Headlamps....
& two speed wipers.....
& Driving & Fog lamps....
& reversing lights....

Lee
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#332630
it all comes down to how handy you are and how resourceful
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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hallph Commited Dubber

69 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#362539
That site looks great, i emailed them about some prices.

Also, which areas in a 75 Kombi would be the 'key' areas to sound deaden in order to reduce both road and engine noise? Front doors, floor, tire wells - what about around the engine bay?

KruizinKombi Seriously Obsessed Cyber Dubber

3,493 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#363057
The firewall and floor above the engine will benefit from some insulation, which will help prevent engine noise finding its way into the vehicle.

Even with the engine noise taken care of, any large flat panels will add noise if not dampened in some way. A lot of the noise found in kombis is not engine noise anyway, just vibration caused by road surfaces, wind, etc. Try driving your kombi fully packed up for camping, and you will notice how much 'other' noise is around; you just usually can't hear it above the engine noise. The roof, inside side panels and doors, and even the floor would benefit from some sort of damping material. The bituminous stuff is reputed to be the best, but as others have said, it is heavy. Remember that the panels do not necessarily need to be completely covered with dampening material; a section in the middle will still dampen a lot of the vibration. (Have a look inside many factory-finished vehicles)

As RENNWAGEN already suggested, check this site out...

Heat, Rust, & Noise in VW's
Kruizin Kol

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#368111
i ended up going with the dyno mat extreme. bought the boot kit and still have enough left over to do the front kicks as well. this is what ive done so far ill post more when ive done it


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oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#368489
nice one! How thick is that stuff?
How much did you get for how much $?
Did you you use a hairdryer to mold it or is it adhesive backed?
What's the mean rainfall in Kyrgyzstan for 1997?
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#369087
it cost me $230 for 5 sheets, which is the boot pack. its adhesive and you just peel and stick, roll for a better fit. each sheet is about 3-5mm thick.
i think it was 24mm of rain that year. 🙂
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#369417
smart arse!:kiss

so hows it sound? or, not sound for that matter?

[Edited on 8/6/2005 by oval TOFU]
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#369470
ill let you know when i get the engine back in mate as its still out awaiting a rebuild
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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penguin ackkkkkk thhhhhpt!

3,383 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#380508
Hey Barls
has the engine come back yet????
'Ah, whatever................'

mnsKmobi Wolfsburg Wizard

589 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#380738
KruizinKombi wrote:As RENNWAGEN already suggested, check this site out...

Heat, Rust, & Noise in VW's
Be warned though that the kombi in that article is supposed to be a real rust bucket now. Make sure that you treat any rust b4 covering an area with soundproofing. Also, don't use anything that can hold moisture - like insulation batts.

What I have been doing is coating areas with fish oil, rustproof primer then bitumenous paint. Takes a while but it shouldn't rust in a hurry! So far only the front doors and the front passenger's wheel arch have been finished and it is noticeably quieter at 100 kmh.

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#380772
mnsKmobi wrote:Be warned though that the kombi in that article is supposed to be a real rust bucket now.
I was thinking that there wasn't that much prep done when he mentions filling all the door cavities with sound deadening foam and other stuff like that...
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#380965
no penguin its only just made it to the upholsers to have a headtrim done
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oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#387084
any new news barls?

Was wondering if I should I tear out the old sound deadener if I'm replacing parts of it? nn[ Edited on 19-7-2005 by oval TOFU ]
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#387109
well its back from the trimmers for this time and now we are working on the engine so in a little while mate
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#391949
did the front kick panels yesterday ready to fit up, we just ran out of time. i started off by sound deadening the panels behind the kick panels

then fitting the kick panels in place to mark where the speakers would sit and covering the back in the dynomat

heres them sitting in place


“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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hallph Commited Dubber

69 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#411921
Any more updates on this Barls?

I've just bought myself a pack of 24 Bostik sound deadening sheets - i'll put them in my van sometime but i doubt they are flexible enough to place near the engine, possibly just in the doors etc on the flatter surfaces 🙂

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#412654
no mate unfortunately as im not even in the same country as my lovely chaos. but i will update it when i get back
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
the chaos project - click me

azz Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#413004
What product can I use in the engine bay of a kombi?