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boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#321481
Henry Spicak was going to build mine and refused to look at any box other than the 3.88. SSP.

Matt

condor Learner Dubber

10 posts · joined Oct 2004 ·

#323291
i have just replaced a stuffed swingaxle box with a box built by leons motors welded 1 and 2 superdiff heavy sideplate
otherwise standard type three,heavy duty clutch and pressure plate built by some expert in bris. bugpak gearbox brace 265x50 yokohama tyres on rear.after 5 runs at gatton street sprints with 1st and 2nd gear wheelspin for 60 metres at start and thrashing it Around the track it seems ok.motor is series 5 turbo 13b with microtech .car weighs 880 kg.some axle tramp,will get sticky tyres soon this will test gearbox.

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#323305
Hey choppa - troy is now running porsche CV's I believe. His t2 cv conversion was very interesting - its actually a re drilled t1 stub axle (such that you can bolt a t2 CV up to it). I didnt think you could do that, but apparently you can.

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#323855
hey condor. is this in a beetle? if so i wouldnt mind talking about the conversion. and how are the launches on this transmission?


Anthony

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#323880
choppa wrote:In my opinion you should get your box built by someone who knows.
And who has access to parts.
The best racing gears you can get in the US are sold by weddle racing gears,
guess wherethey are from? Albins, right here in OZ!

NOT US stuff.
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#323920
so basically buy a ssp box. get a zf lsd. and a full albins gear set, stronger side plate...and what else?

Anthony

Herbie 53 Bugs are not nearly enough

764 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#323948
post it to my address
:P
62 Ragtop Herbie with a little extra oomph.

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#323968
haha sure thing herbie. just give me the money to buy the parts for two of those boxes then i will post you one and keep one for postage fee 😉

haha did u know there is nother herbie movie coming out? beetle looks sweeeet.

but really. back to topic

ssp box, zf lsd, full albins gear set, stronger side plate and what else?

Anthony

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#323977
More HP to beat me off the lights
Looking for that special lady : PM me for coffee & cake

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#324021
Cv's....but you can change them in the car..see how long it takes to shatter the stock ones..

So that is it...start ringing around and get some parts.

Matt

wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#324115
no use going porsche cv look at the ridiculous prices on them. most of the off road vw guys will use them because they put them through hell vibration will kill anything ask mudbashing about the cost new shafts cv's, really not worth it, just stick with t2 cv they are cheap and can be found anywhere
YOU HAVE JUST BEEN DAKED
don't worry it's a VW thing

BiX Veteran Volks Folk

2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#324126
try leons in brissy.

From what i can remember it was about $350 (could be up to 450) for each custom gear. + box rebuild + diff (approx 450) + side plate. if you want tmore xact costs u2u me, (as its not fair to put up prices for public review)
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#324353
I've seen a few VWs with universal driveshafts for high HP applications, although a mate reckons CVs are actually stronger in a straight line than a uni joint. I have also heard it said that kombi CVs will handle up to 400rwkw. apparently they uses them in sports-sedans.

BTW, offroad guys only use porsche CVs for the extra angles they allow, they are only negligably stronger than kombi ones.
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#324461
more hp to beat you off the lights neil?..

nah. ill just launch at 7k 🙂

how much power ya car got?

haha

Anthony

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#325178
I dont know >when I fit the cooler & the boost controler I let you know .
Looking for that special lady : PM me for coffee & cake

shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#325775
Most importantly get someone who knows what they are doing to build it for you, there are a lot of little tricks in building a gearbox that lasts. Id Reccomend shimo who now works at dunhams in wollongong. He's built the boxes for some VERY high powered VW's and knows his stuff.

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#325997
hey Shifty, you now at uncle Bob's???
If so, drop a 911 on Christian for me...

Matt

shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#330611
Yep, Ill do my best on drop request.

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#331589
He isnt the smartest kid on the block...I am going to play some midnight ghostly pranks on him in the next few weeks... you will hear about them..

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#332250
Hey 71...Are you sure your gonna be legal in WA?
I don't think you will be, but I am problably wrong.
I'm sure you can rego just about anything, it just may cost you a packet.
I remember when I had a chat to the dude who built that white 12A Turbo bug, he reckon under no circumstance could he upgrade to a 13B turbo...And he did a load of work under that car! Hate to see you blow your bucks on this project.

But if you have looked into it, and all is good....Just get into it and see what happens!!
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#332743
Make sure they involve spiders. He likes spiders.

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#333081
yeah all would be legal if i get the right work done.

nothing is illegal in WA providing your car is able to handle it.

Anthony

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#333319
I have a single side plate super bug box and new hd clutch with an hydralic slave cyl set up $250.00 if you need it
Looking for that special lady : PM me for coffee & cake

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#333460
Do you guys know what a 13Bt weighs versus say a type 4 motor?

be interesting to figure that out too, just for handlings sake.
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 ·

#333476
get on google and put in engine weights and you,ll get aircraft sites and they list allsoughts of motors and some gearbox weights

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#333483
Found these figures,
Mazda 13B race, 242 lb (109 kg), 2-rotor race motor, with accessories,
Vs,
VW Type IV: 311 lb (141 kg)

Now it probably doesn't include the radiator and coolent, but....

mmm, food for thought
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 ·

#333515
how are you getting around the engine cc size to orignal weight of the car when they multiply cc in a rotary

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#333854
we do not have that rule here in western australia.

Anthony

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#333857
neil. what condition is the box in? and is that 3.88 or the weird 4.125?

Anthony

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#333973
If it is a single side plate then it is 3.88. Pop over and grab it anthony.

Matt