I am more than happy to contribute to the positive VW stuff Helbus
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mscabrio Cabriolet Queen
2,308 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
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Sorry to say, but..
bugeyedbabe Wheres her VW heart on her sleeve
3,945 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
the first part cracks me up no end...sax wrote:....
I hate to say it but BA has to go, we all know who the sickos are now so let it
go and then maybe vw posts will return instead.
.......
Moderators must adopt a slash and burn approach to any bullshit.
y, cause sax..u posted there...
also the following have posted in ba...
volkfolks...which u have already admitted too.
vanderay - moderator
jenz - moderator
peter leonard - moderator
Manx Xtc - u posted only 2 days ago....
but my all time favorite would be ......drum roll pls.....
BENNETTON VW!
yes! the man who created aussie vee dubbers...he was there to meet and greet us....checking it was in fact password protected...btu there none he less.....i dont think he has posted since....but he was there...
and sax...im sure i've seen u post there too...provided pics too didnt u??
so...next question i guess is who determines who the sickos r??? what level do the sickos need to show to be deemed sick??
hahaha...
but in all honesty, i doubt closing it will make much difference...and not because ppl will leave of whatever, but because the ppl who were there weren't always the ones causing problems....
yes....i did cause problems...for what, a whole week, if that...but i am only one person....since then i have apologised, ceased my ways, and post only when relevant. i dont make negative posts...and i dont bag ppl...especially not newcomers..
its not only abotu keeping the old timers interested...that is important...but its also about embracing the new ppl...
without newbies (and u all have been new at some stage) the info will die.... it wont get passed on....and then the question wont be keeping old timers...but getting new blood too.
so u have to find a way to embrace them all...
if u take out BA cause it doesnt relate to vw...then the next question will be what about general chit chat.....before bw came along...many threads were noted that general chit chat didnt relate to vw...especially those which were purely social, and for ppl to catch up on....
as for the post count being rmoved...go ahead....most of the the ppl in BA supported the statement that it not come back...
i know it is certainly not something i miss having around...
but also...i wanna say the moderators are doing a GREAT JOB...
some states:
from the 19th April 2005, we have had 232 ppl join aussieveedubbers....that is because joining became compulsory...however prior to this, it took 52 days to have that same numebr join....
the sad part is, of the 232 that joined int he 10 days...only 31 have become active.....
where as over 134 were active from the same number...
the average amount of tiem it takes for a member to become 'active' ie plac a post, is often one to two weeks...
so if all the pple joining see is a newbie getting flamed...for a silly indiscretion...then they wont post....for that same fear...
and why to the old timers tend to post information....cause they like to answer questions...ppls who place most questions, one would think...is a newbie who is just learning...
these r just my thoughts...and i'm sure i will be persecuted for them....
cheers
donna
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
sax Insano Dub Head
846 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
Maybe i is wrong about killing off BA, just think the novelty of it has worn off already and we are facing crisis talks back at the vw table.
" You're not a team player "
bugeyedbabe Wheres her VW heart on her sleeve
3,945 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
sax...i think the big thing is not killing ba, but creating more positive vibes...
i thought about this ages ago...and i know this is really out there...and i have my own ideas on what some r, and how to fix it...but really...i'm nto game enuf to put it up for fear of getting flames again...
i mite send it onto a moderator when i'm game enuf....its a way to bring oldtimers back...and introduce new ppl into avd...create better relations between ALL clubs ...hopefully increase patronage to the shows....its pretty easy...and invloves 1/2 volunteers from each state...
one day when i'm more game perhaps...
i thought about this ages ago...and i know this is really out there...and i have my own ideas on what some r, and how to fix it...but really...i'm nto game enuf to put it up for fear of getting flames again...
i mite send it onto a moderator when i'm game enuf....its a way to bring oldtimers back...and introduce new ppl into avd...create better relations between ALL clubs ...hopefully increase patronage to the shows....its pretty easy...and invloves 1/2 volunteers from each state...
one day when i'm more game perhaps...
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
DubCrazy Custom Title Time!
1,295 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
can i just say...............
to lose this site would be a MAJOR set back to all things vw. i moved to this fine land a few years ago from the uk. when i got here i was having real problems in finding anyone or anything to do with vw's never mind were to get the rarest parts or the highest lift kit. coming from the uk i could get anything from anywhere mainly becasue the countrys so small compared to here. when i found this site and its opened up the whole of this country to me and thanks to many people from this forum i have found parts,shops traders online that i would have never found if not for this site
so on that note... please dont shut it down cuz of a small amount of foolishness keep it going and help out others like me who are looking for like minded people.
i do understand it must be a rear pain in the ass to run here with all the crap that gets thrown around but look past the crap and see the friends uhave made or that hard to find rare part u got ... is it worth giving all that away cuz of some idiots? ...
.............steff..................................
to lose this site would be a MAJOR set back to all things vw. i moved to this fine land a few years ago from the uk. when i got here i was having real problems in finding anyone or anything to do with vw's never mind were to get the rarest parts or the highest lift kit. coming from the uk i could get anything from anywhere mainly becasue the countrys so small compared to here. when i found this site and its opened up the whole of this country to me and thanks to many people from this forum i have found parts,shops traders online that i would have never found if not for this site
so on that note... please dont shut it down cuz of a small amount of foolishness keep it going and help out others like me who are looking for like minded people.
i do understand it must be a rear pain in the ass to run here with all the crap that gets thrown around but look past the crap and see the friends uhave made or that hard to find rare part u got ... is it worth giving all that away cuz of some idiots? ...
.............steff..................................
Life with out a v-dub is no life at all!!!!!
VDUBXTC Tea Bag
3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Yep i admit i posted there.bugeyedbabe wrote:the first part cracks me up no end...sax wrote:....
I hate to say it but BA has to go, we all know who the sickos are now so let it
go and then maybe vw posts will return instead.
.......
Moderators must adopt a slash and burn approach to any bullshit.
y, cause sax..u posted there...
also the following have posted in ba...
volkfolks...which u have already admitted too.
vanderay - moderator
jenz - moderator
peter leonard - moderator
Manx Xtc - u posted only 2 days ago....
but my all time favorite would be ......drum roll pls.....
BENNETTON VW!
yes! the man who created aussie vee dubbers...he was there to meet and greet us....checking it was in fact password protected...btu there none he less.....i dont think he has posted since....but he was there...
cheers
donna
3 times i think in hole. YAY.
whats your point?
bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Guys, like u know, im the new guy no one likes (well, im sure there is a fellow vee dub fan somewhere in here of mine. Its there?) Anyways...
We all can't lose this forum. I have never had so many questions anwered here. Finally, ive found a place where i can ask questions without annoying Mike Sharp (according to Manx_xtc, u know him already. hence why he said i shouldn't post anymore info on Mike or KlubVWoffroad or www.sharpbuilt.com.au).
But still, this is a great place. I suggest we all go right now and post a vw question. Even if it has been done in the past, it can recharge our brains and become fresh again. GO NOW.
We all can't lose this forum. I have never had so many questions anwered here. Finally, ive found a place where i can ask questions without annoying Mike Sharp (according to Manx_xtc, u know him already. hence why he said i shouldn't post anymore info on Mike or KlubVWoffroad or www.sharpbuilt.com.au).
But still, this is a great place. I suggest we all go right now and post a vw question. Even if it has been done in the past, it can recharge our brains and become fresh again. GO NOW.
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
bugeyedbabe Wheres her VW heart on her sleeve
3,945 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
manx...my point is u cant paint ALL the ppl in the one forum as sickos...and demand it be closed down for that reason...
different ppl posted in BA for different reasons....and not all bad...
some had jokes...some car adds..some politcal views...some religious...
sax said close it its bad (and not him alone) ...and then went on to say "we know who the sickos r"....
but u dont...not really...i know ur not sick rite....but u posted there... and bennettonvw is definately not sick either....but he posted too....and how is it defined..by number of posts/pics placed up/perhaps the type of pics.....
in some cases its just the threads/posts arent good for kids to see...
especially the yo momma jokes (hey, they mite use 'em on me :duh)
just dont close a forum because it doesnt suit some ppl...find more positive ways to fix it....
first is find out what problem is...where is began....how it started...main players involved...gather the evidence to support the case..
if oldtimers r leaving....ask them why...was it ba, or others fighting...does a particular arguement stand out for them...were they offended by something...were they badgered...were they simply bored??
when i joined...i read a similar argument...but since i had only just joined...i wasnt at fault, and ba wasnt around....so why did they leave??
think about 15 particular oldtimers u ant back...and chat to them...take notes....and then work it out...
like i said...never assume...
just cause they say...it got bad about a month ago...doesnt mean it was ba....perhaps it was prior...or even outside ba...
just a thought...
cheers
donna
different ppl posted in BA for different reasons....and not all bad...
some had jokes...some car adds..some politcal views...some religious...
sax said close it its bad (and not him alone) ...and then went on to say "we know who the sickos r"....
but u dont...not really...i know ur not sick rite....but u posted there... and bennettonvw is definately not sick either....but he posted too....and how is it defined..by number of posts/pics placed up/perhaps the type of pics.....
in some cases its just the threads/posts arent good for kids to see...
especially the yo momma jokes (hey, they mite use 'em on me :duh)
just dont close a forum because it doesnt suit some ppl...find more positive ways to fix it....
first is find out what problem is...where is began....how it started...main players involved...gather the evidence to support the case..
if oldtimers r leaving....ask them why...was it ba, or others fighting...does a particular arguement stand out for them...were they offended by something...were they badgered...were they simply bored??
when i joined...i read a similar argument...but since i had only just joined...i wasnt at fault, and ba wasnt around....so why did they leave??
think about 15 particular oldtimers u ant back...and chat to them...take notes....and then work it out...
like i said...never assume...
just cause they say...it got bad about a month ago...doesnt mean it was ba....perhaps it was prior...or even outside ba...
just a thought...
cheers
donna
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
sax Insano Dub Head
846 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
All the BS about BA aside, what the forum needs now is to grow
and put forward a professional face especially if there are sponsors involved.
Troublemakers can get whatever the Bali 9 get. Bambang.
This site, if properly handled could generate heaps more coverage both here and OS but even The Samba being huge manges to deal with this sort of thing.
So should we. I'll load up the Dachshunds and get ready for an all out assault
on evildoers, trolls, and dub-bots who keep infiltrating this sacred
piece of cyberspace.
and put forward a professional face especially if there are sponsors involved.
Troublemakers can get whatever the Bali 9 get. Bambang.
This site, if properly handled could generate heaps more coverage both here and OS but even The Samba being huge manges to deal with this sort of thing.
So should we. I'll load up the Dachshunds and get ready for an all out assault
on evildoers, trolls, and dub-bots who keep infiltrating this sacred
piece of cyberspace.
" You're not a team player "
bugeyedbabe Wheres her VW heart on her sleeve
3,945 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
**packing my bags then***
hears dogs at the dog.....
lol
hears dogs at the dog.....
lol
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
Dasdubber DAS Resto Haus
5,746 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Well I just typed a massive reply with all my views on the matter just to have a crash when I hit reply (computers fault not forums) .....so in summary, Jim I hope you can continue to see your "baby" grow and flourish rather than mutating into an ugly monster.
I am happy to continuing contributing and moderating until my resto project is finished as I know a lot of people are interested in seeing the progress, but will re-evaluate my inovolvement once it is finished unless attitudes of people (yes a minority I acknowledge) can change.
I know three good vw mates who no longer visit the site (who could have provided a lot of useful information) because of the irrelevant ramblings and ranting and general $hit that provides no benefit to the vw scene.
I hope this trend does not continue so fingers crossed people can grow up and get back to helping eachother and talking about what brought us all together (volkswagens). Remember to not say anything you would not say to the other individuals' face - too many people hide behind their computers as they provide a perception of unaccountability. Think before you type please.
Alan
I am happy to continuing contributing and moderating until my resto project is finished as I know a lot of people are interested in seeing the progress, but will re-evaluate my inovolvement once it is finished unless attitudes of people (yes a minority I acknowledge) can change.
I know three good vw mates who no longer visit the site (who could have provided a lot of useful information) because of the irrelevant ramblings and ranting and general $hit that provides no benefit to the vw scene.
I hope this trend does not continue so fingers crossed people can grow up and get back to helping eachother and talking about what brought us all together (volkswagens). Remember to not say anything you would not say to the other individuals' face - too many people hide behind their computers as they provide a perception of unaccountability. Think before you type please.
Alan
VDUBXTC Tea Bag
3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Okbugeyedbabe wrote:manx...my point is u cant paint ALL the ppl in the one forum as sickos...and demand it be closed down for that reason...
cheers
donna
i can agree with the fact that it doesn't need to go. some people have found a place they enjoy on the forum, which is fair enough.
But i think atleast the name should be changed, because its as you say not all bad stuff.
And please bugeyed tell me where i have ever said anyone that hangs out there is a sicko?
I try not to generalize people so if i have please point it out so i can modify the comment.
sax Insano Dub Head
846 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
So Bad Attitude becomes ' Just shit really' or will we call it ' The Waffle House' ?
" You're not a team player "
bugeyedbabe Wheres her VW heart on her sleeve
3,945 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
no, manx - wasnt saying u said it...said sax had...I was just trying to point out that mayeb by generalising like taht good ppl are being called a name they may not like...
but it seems sometimes ppl post bad things about BA, and they haven't visited it....
I agree also, that in time, it will settle down...
A change of name is agreed.....i'd prefer to not have 'bad attitude' in the title......howabotu nothing neg in title....will think on it too...
And another thing maybe to ask ppl in there to be awar the titles of their posts are seen in topics and perhaps offensive to more sensitive viewers...including kids... that what i try to keep in mind when i put post in there...
but it seems sometimes ppl post bad things about BA, and they haven't visited it....
I agree also, that in time, it will settle down...
A change of name is agreed.....i'd prefer to not have 'bad attitude' in the title......howabotu nothing neg in title....will think on it too...
And another thing maybe to ask ppl in there to be awar the titles of their posts are seen in topics and perhaps offensive to more sensitive viewers...including kids... that what i try to keep in mind when i put post in there...
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
VDUBXTC Tea Bag
3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Dude.mynameischris88 wrote:We all can't lose this forum. I have never had so many questions anwered here. Finally, ive found a place where i can ask questions without annoying Mike Sharp (according to Manx_xtc, u know him already. hence why he said i shouldn't post anymore info on Mike or KlubVWoffroad or www.sharpbuilt.com.au).
.
OK firstly I have never said don't ask questions on AVD
secondly i have never said not to ask mike sharp questions or to not ask questions on Kluboffroad or sharpbuilt site.
What i did say is if you can't find the info by looking then ask the question on here. someone will answer them, yes you will get a few odd comments, but post a unhappy smilley, they will get what you mean. hopefully they won't continue.
But anyways this thread is not about your probs or mine its about the future of this forum.
If we can't stop naming names and bagging each others things then maybe the right thing to do is shut the place down.
I for 1 hope this doesn't have to come to this, but Jim is the creator and i am sure he will do as he sees right.
BUGEYEDBABE.
I can see your points with the BA forum and i can understand that you don't want to see it struck off.
as i wouldn't like to see the offroad forum struck off either.
no one can say that its all the BA forums fault. and i don't think anyone has said that.
I for 1 think that its not.
although i am not a fan of that part of the forum, other people use and enjoy it, but its a contributor, as is the for sales and general chit chat, and most of the other forums, the only one that doesn't contribute to the problems is help out a dubber forum.
VDUBXTC Tea Bag
3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
OH and ps
I am thick as a brick so it may take a little while to understand some of these comments😉
I am thick as a brick so it may take a little while to understand some of these comments😉
Boozer Demented But Determined
1,999 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·
Let's call it the "Misfits Clubhouse". I like it.:thumb what? stop looking at me like that...sax wrote:So Bad Attitude becomes ' Just shit really' or will we call it ' The Waffle House' ?
seriously now.
I've been here a little while now, and I'd like to think that i'm a fairly well known and at least a little bit respected and liked on here. Yes the forum has changed and gotten a bit negative, but it's still a far more interesting place to me than STF. Here's what I think will help:
1. Banish Post count permanently- or just make it invisible to members and have people go up levels normally, just you can't see when=no competition. I used to be a post freak, me and Blackmat/Riaan (lazy bastard), but I was an idiot that wanted to be like the regulars.
2. BA Forum: Feels like a 2nd home/AVD to me. But then I'm a freak. I'm mean shit, there's Zombies in my backyard, angry mobs in my frontyard and baja's and bugs inbetween. I personally think it should be kept as it has settled down now and it's become like KK's Late Night Dubbers thread.
3. If this place goes, my list of friends will decrease by about 98%- no kidding.
4. I think moderator do need to take more of a active stance, earlier it wasn't needed and there was peace and harmony and then the misfits like me and KK and $2.63 and the rest of the mob showed up. *SPLAT!* The trick will be to not become tyrannical and nasty with the moderator stuff. There's a sense of community here that needs to be kept.
5. If I'm a moderator i'll fix this problem once and for all! Seriously.
STOP LAUGHING! Screw you all!
6. I can't think of anything else cept that everyone needs to take a chill pill and remember that we are not interacting with computers or non-existant things, but real people who need to be respected and acknowledged for their differences, belief, knowledge or lack of and so on. Long Live AVD.
THe MC Bat Commander's motto: "Never do now, what you could do for 24 hours straight, all night, the night before."
Herbie 53 Bugs are not nearly enough
764 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Maybe rename the bad attitude section as the Sealed section or Adults only section, that doesn't sound as bad,
Its true about the dont say anything that you wouldn't say in person, and I will quickly admit I can bite, react and even slog out of line when its a hot post, Often its hard to communicate in text when you cant show inflection or Jovial Sarcasm or other emotions too successfully, and you dont realise you have offended anyone till you get a whack back.
As far as not saying anything you wouldn't say in person goes, I can be quite forward and shocking in person with a warped sense of humour, something that doesn't always read too well when you type it.
This gets me into all sorts of scrapes on the forum.
It only takes 2 people to bump like that and it can be a bit ugly, often a simple misunderstanding can escalate into mayhem that cant be diffused by typing, typing more sometimes just makes it worse.
And even just down to the fact that the most knowledgable VW enthusiast may not be the best communicator can make the information pear shaped.
The post counter sadly makes dribblers look like they have had a lot to contribute, so maybe just make the post count visible to the indvidual in their own profile, for their own interest and not allow it to encourage meaningless dribble post races.
There is also the mention of the older wiser enthusiasts not being as prominent anymore,
I think partly, its like buying car magazines, eventually you get to the point where you have read it all before and find that you dont buy them as much, after all, theres only so much to learn about cars before you have a pretty good grasp of whats what.
Its not like we are even covering much in the way of new technology here, I think most of us have old VWs, less of the New VW people are generaly enthusiasts as many of them buy the new VWs as just cars to get from A to B, although we do have a few very enthusiast New VW owners on here, and thats good, they are all cool cars.
Everything comes in waves.
Its true about the dont say anything that you wouldn't say in person, and I will quickly admit I can bite, react and even slog out of line when its a hot post, Often its hard to communicate in text when you cant show inflection or Jovial Sarcasm or other emotions too successfully, and you dont realise you have offended anyone till you get a whack back.
As far as not saying anything you wouldn't say in person goes, I can be quite forward and shocking in person with a warped sense of humour, something that doesn't always read too well when you type it.
This gets me into all sorts of scrapes on the forum.
It only takes 2 people to bump like that and it can be a bit ugly, often a simple misunderstanding can escalate into mayhem that cant be diffused by typing, typing more sometimes just makes it worse.
And even just down to the fact that the most knowledgable VW enthusiast may not be the best communicator can make the information pear shaped.
The post counter sadly makes dribblers look like they have had a lot to contribute, so maybe just make the post count visible to the indvidual in their own profile, for their own interest and not allow it to encourage meaningless dribble post races.
There is also the mention of the older wiser enthusiasts not being as prominent anymore,
I think partly, its like buying car magazines, eventually you get to the point where you have read it all before and find that you dont buy them as much, after all, theres only so much to learn about cars before you have a pretty good grasp of whats what.
Its not like we are even covering much in the way of new technology here, I think most of us have old VWs, less of the New VW people are generaly enthusiasts as many of them buy the new VWs as just cars to get from A to B, although we do have a few very enthusiast New VW owners on here, and thats good, they are all cool cars.
Everything comes in waves.
62 Ragtop Herbie with a little extra oomph.
vanderaj Administrator a suffusion of yellow
3,130 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
We have yet to receive a reported post from Bad Attitude - basically, I think that section has a certain type of person in there, and they're getting on fine. I'm one of them, but I honestly don't think Bad Attitude is the problem. If there was a lot of real aggro in there coupled with a lot of reported posts, then it would go. That's simply not the case.
Buying and Selling along with our more commercial posters (not sponsors!) on the other hand has been the source of all of our lawsuits. The commercial aspect is also responsible for about 60-75% (or more) of the reported posts, mostly to do with compliance or "I got in first".
My views on keeping Buying and Selling have never wavered - I think eBay is a far better place for this activity, mainly as they are paid to take care of the rubbish that goes backwards and forwards when things go wrong.
General Chit Chat makes up nearly all of the remainder of the reports, and basically if many of those posts had been made in a forum like Bad Attitude, I doubt they'd be reported. Only the 1916 threads of yesteryear made an impression outside of General Chitchat.
However, I have noticed a definite deterioration in courteous discourse in the last few months (prior to Bad Attitude, mainly), although I see it continuing out in certain threads in General Chitchat. I echo Jim's sentiments that I don't like to ban people, but if that's what it takes, that's what it takes.
I am definitely in the mood to turn off post counts; some threads exist for nothing else, so basically I'm not fussed if we turn the outward display of that off to discourage zillions of one or two word posts.
Andrew
Buying and Selling along with our more commercial posters (not sponsors!) on the other hand has been the source of all of our lawsuits. The commercial aspect is also responsible for about 60-75% (or more) of the reported posts, mostly to do with compliance or "I got in first".
My views on keeping Buying and Selling have never wavered - I think eBay is a far better place for this activity, mainly as they are paid to take care of the rubbish that goes backwards and forwards when things go wrong.
General Chit Chat makes up nearly all of the remainder of the reports, and basically if many of those posts had been made in a forum like Bad Attitude, I doubt they'd be reported. Only the 1916 threads of yesteryear made an impression outside of General Chitchat.
However, I have noticed a definite deterioration in courteous discourse in the last few months (prior to Bad Attitude, mainly), although I see it continuing out in certain threads in General Chitchat. I echo Jim's sentiments that I don't like to ban people, but if that's what it takes, that's what it takes.
I am definitely in the mood to turn off post counts; some threads exist for nothing else, so basically I'm not fussed if we turn the outward display of that off to discourage zillions of one or two word posts.
Andrew
mscabrio Cabriolet Queen
2,308 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
sax wrote:So Bad Attitude becomes ' Just shit really' or will we call it ' The Waffle House' ?
I like the Waffle house !
🤘
bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Really, this bad attitude swampin' the forum is not just deteriorating the forum itself, but its also deteriorating its members.
We are beginning to fight more often, calling each other shit this, fuck that etc.etc. People just need to be enforced that by all means, say something against someone (if you disagree or have a suggestion), but do it in an appropriate and friendly matter.
Eg.
Bad attitude 1 : "Chris is a fukwit (yada yada), next time, use the search function"
Good attitude 2: "Ay mate, just to inform you, there is a search function that you can use if you need information on this topic next time. Its been posted in the past, and has what your lookin' for"
Now see the difference. Just play friendly. Its good for the forum, and its good for you.
We are beginning to fight more often, calling each other shit this, fuck that etc.etc. People just need to be enforced that by all means, say something against someone (if you disagree or have a suggestion), but do it in an appropriate and friendly matter.
Eg.
Bad attitude 1 : "Chris is a fukwit (yada yada), next time, use the search function"
Good attitude 2: "Ay mate, just to inform you, there is a search function that you can use if you need information on this topic next time. Its been posted in the past, and has what your lookin' for"
Now see the difference. Just play friendly. Its good for the forum, and its good for you.
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
Octa veedub recluse
406 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·
Sadly, it seems to me, most the issues/concerns raised by some of the replies in this post are symptomatic of an on-line form and people's attitude of virtuality. More and more I have seen it happening in other forums (thesamba, etc) because people believe they are untouchable due to being online. Someone mentioned (in another post I think) that when you post on this site it should be as if you were face to face with the person. Just because we are all sitting at our lounges/study/work/garages/etc does not mean that manners can be forgotten. I commend the attitude (which is very mature) of Chris (mynameis...)due to the fact that he can see how sentences can be composed to lend a hand or provide feedback rather that display frustration (that most times are not derived from the forum but rather personal circumstance). I myself have never been in BA and that is because I do not see the point. I frequent the general forums because I like to chat (about anything) wiht fellow dubbers, the members rides because it inspires me and educates me, the tech sectiosn because I learn and sometimes I can help others, and the sale/swap because I am always looking to see what is out there. I also believe is great how sponsors are also members and do suggest that they have a specific part for sale, because without them we would never have some specific parts to slam or accessorise our cars.
I am a Libra and thus always try to lobby for balance, and it seems the balance has gone asthray. We share a common passion/hobby/etc. I know that there are infinite personalities and that not everybody can get along, however, we should all strive to be civil to each other. Eventhough what you read is oly words, who wrote them are people on the other side of the keyboard, just like your brothers/sisters/parents/close friends/etc treat them like so. :thumb
I am a Libra and thus always try to lobby for balance, and it seems the balance has gone asthray. We share a common passion/hobby/etc. I know that there are infinite personalities and that not everybody can get along, however, we should all strive to be civil to each other. Eventhough what you read is oly words, who wrote them are people on the other side of the keyboard, just like your brothers/sisters/parents/close friends/etc treat them like so. :thumb
'We teach best what we most need to learn'
VW no more... sigh.... well, at least it's a cousin
VW no more... sigh.... well, at least it's a cousin
bugeyedbabe Wheres her VW heart on her sleeve
3,945 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
1/ i agree...get rid of post counts PLEASE...
everytime someone brings this issue up...i get u2us privately...and i am so fed up of it....nothing i did was good enuf...i stop doing guys, i apologise profusely...and i still cop flack..even now...
so i AGREE...get rid of post counts, just make the invisible like we had them b4.......please andrew...
2/ change name of BA....i like VW Misfits Club...i think it summarises us pretty well really....most of us dont feel we fit anywhere else....and pls, dont tell u ALL come just to chat vw and nothing else.....if all u wanted was tech info and buyig & selling....u'd just go visit ur mechanic...he has all that stuff...u come, maybe not as much for, but for a little the social side.....to meet other like minded people...whether it is in offroaders rats & rods or chitchat...its where we go in between the meetings....to talk to ppl who have a love for the VW....we're unique...we own a car few understand...or understand why we love it....
3/ and like chris said...lets just try to keep it nice guys....its not what u say, so much as how u say it....i know i post sometimes, and it hurt someone...but if i find out...i either change/clarify the post, or remove it..
there are real ppl watching/reading all this stuff....and they have real emotions...what u say can have a positive effect, or negative effect. I personally choose to try to be positive where ever i can.
i think its the mother thing in me....
anyway...it cant be a bad thing to be nice....unless u let ur mum walk out the house with her dress tucked in her undies cause u were too nice to mention it....:P
everytime someone brings this issue up...i get u2us privately...and i am so fed up of it....nothing i did was good enuf...i stop doing guys, i apologise profusely...and i still cop flack..even now...
so i AGREE...get rid of post counts, just make the invisible like we had them b4.......please andrew...
2/ change name of BA....i like VW Misfits Club...i think it summarises us pretty well really....most of us dont feel we fit anywhere else....and pls, dont tell u ALL come just to chat vw and nothing else.....if all u wanted was tech info and buyig & selling....u'd just go visit ur mechanic...he has all that stuff...u come, maybe not as much for, but for a little the social side.....to meet other like minded people...whether it is in offroaders rats & rods or chitchat...its where we go in between the meetings....to talk to ppl who have a love for the VW....we're unique...we own a car few understand...or understand why we love it....
3/ and like chris said...lets just try to keep it nice guys....its not what u say, so much as how u say it....i know i post sometimes, and it hurt someone...but if i find out...i either change/clarify the post, or remove it..
there are real ppl watching/reading all this stuff....and they have real emotions...what u say can have a positive effect, or negative effect. I personally choose to try to be positive where ever i can.
i think its the mother thing in me....
anyway...it cant be a bad thing to be nice....unless u let ur mum walk out the house with her dress tucked in her undies cause u were too nice to mention it....:P
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
Octa veedub recluse
406 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·
hey bugeyed, we almost posted the same thing 🙂
'We teach best what we most need to learn'
VW no more... sigh.... well, at least it's a cousin
VW no more... sigh.... well, at least it's a cousin
bugeyedbabe Wheres her VW heart on her sleeve
3,945 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
great minds think alike...
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
bugeyed, ur a champ. (and of course, everyone else who wants to improve this highly worthwhile forum)
Just remember this everyone:
"Don't let the world bring you down, no everyone here is so fucked up and cold, remember why you came and why your alive, experience the WARMTH before you go..." [Incubus, Warmth. Great song, especially from my guitarist point of view.]
So if ur copin' crap, stay, cause there are good guys 'n' girls around who will help ya be good mates.
Just remember this everyone:
"Don't let the world bring you down, no everyone here is so fucked up and cold, remember why you came and why your alive, experience the WARMTH before you go..." [Incubus, Warmth. Great song, especially from my guitarist point of view.]
So if ur copin' crap, stay, cause there are good guys 'n' girls around who will help ya be good mates.
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
bugeyedbabe Wheres her VW heart on her sleeve
3,945 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
just trying my best to bring good vibes into the world....:kiss
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Your doing a great job. We're proud of ya!
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
Spook Driving the 64 wheeler
1,168 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Being the arrogant prick that I am, I'll say it out loud;
I TOLD YOU SO & WHAT'S MORE, I TOLD YOU SO TWO F#CKING YEARS AGO!!!
My reasons for thinking the place has gone to shit are well known, particularly by the officious bloody bureaucrat I hold personally responsible.
We don't get asked about changes anymore, we get told. Or we get asked AFTER the event, which amounts to the same thing.
We don't get asked to pick moderators anymore & yet there seems to be a shitload of them.
But, all of a sudden we "NEED" a seperate section for people who "keep brushing up against the forum rules", which shows the same moderators can't do the f#cking job.
Simple logic really.
General chat is chock full of drivel. there's just nothing to reply to anymore.
I've gone from 10 posts a day to one or two a month.
Drop me a line when you make a new one Boss, I'll be there in 10 minutes.
I TOLD YOU SO & WHAT'S MORE, I TOLD YOU SO TWO F#CKING YEARS AGO!!!
My reasons for thinking the place has gone to shit are well known, particularly by the officious bloody bureaucrat I hold personally responsible.
We don't get asked about changes anymore, we get told. Or we get asked AFTER the event, which amounts to the same thing.
We don't get asked to pick moderators anymore & yet there seems to be a shitload of them.
But, all of a sudden we "NEED" a seperate section for people who "keep brushing up against the forum rules", which shows the same moderators can't do the f#cking job.
Simple logic really.
General chat is chock full of drivel. there's just nothing to reply to anymore.
I've gone from 10 posts a day to one or two a month.
Drop me a line when you make a new one Boss, I'll be there in 10 minutes.
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
I don't think your an arrogant prick.
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!