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Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#350950
8 pounds of boost, small quiet 2.5 inch exhaust, pod filter, Microtech computer. The rest stock. My fellow Pastizzi eater Nathan Bajda played with the computer & it now comes on boost at 2650rpm & u can hear it chirping the tyres in 2nd gear in the dry on the flat when it comes on boost.
It's quite an exciting ride.
Nathan said with a 3 inch exhaust & 10 pounds boost it may crack 220hp plus at the wheels. But this is more than enough for me!! For now. Could also safely add more timing on boost as well, conservative has been my moto so far.
145.7kw @ the wheels.
regards
Jak

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/205015.jpg

warb gimme some butter im on a roll.....

1,983 posts · joined May 2003 ·

#350953
saw you the other day, turning onto manns road. looked and sounded sweet mate....

gayanne Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#351009
Isnt it a simple basic motor ,cheap thrills ,cost half the price of anything else,uses only 4 plugs,has hp to give a hard on for the rest of your life.😀😀😀😀go skaife.JVLRacing

matara Custom Title Time!

1,342 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#351023
Wow thats impressive:-

145 kiloWatts = 194.448203 horsepower

I bet it would cost three times as much to get that hp out of a VW block!

How much did you have to move the gearbox forward Jak? What box are you using?

Cheers

Steve

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#351222
i think i read somewhere that he is using a standard L bug box?

Anthony

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#351237
I was at the dyno today....it sounds so quiet at idle and low revs, kinda howls and whistles at 6k though!

Jak was leaning through one window telling the guy not to tune it up much as it is his daily driver...I'm telling him to up the boost and tune the hell out of it...with 10 or 12 pound and all the maps tweaked it would have easy another 25kw.

You do not want to let all the ponies gallop from the stable at once!

Matt

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#351248
I'm running a standard L-bug gearbox moved forward 2 inches.

I said to Nathan, 'I only take it to 5500rpm so don't bother going much past there' He just rolled his eyes at me & said OK, on the first run he dropped off at 5500rpm & it made 125kw @ the wheels.
'It wants to rev, I can feel it' So the next few runs he took it all the way to 7000rpm & it still didnt' drop off in power.
I'm wrapped! We then spent an hour going through all the maps for cruise at 60km, 80km , 100km & 120km adjusting the fuel for economy off boost.
U could feel the difference just leaning against the car when something was changed.
It was well worth the effort.
regards
Jak

ruckus Veteran Volks Folk

2,118 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#351253
Aw man I can feel myself getting sucked in to the subie fold! Nice work Jak

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#351264
I'm amazed at that torque curve, it's so flat. A good indication of a well breathing well set-up engine.

nice work Jak. The conservative is a good moto. It's less expensive and heart breaking than breaking stuff
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

EgeWorks Wolfsburg Wizard

602 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#351343
I'm encouraged! Now I just need to start saving🙂

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#351350
Yeah engine transplants are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
Pay your debts, CxxT

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#351360
VWCOOL wrote:Yeah engine transplants are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more

I can live with other peoples terminology.

Jak

Andy42 Insano Dub Head

709 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#351368
Man I am hanging out to see how well me buggy goes with the sti motor. Like the flat torque curve you got it must be bloody nice to drive.
.

56astro Custom Title Time!

1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#351376
Well done Jak.

We've had our differences, but I genuinely mean it when I say you must be very pleased and proud of what you have achieved. I admire the short time it took to do the conversion. I am sure there will be a few more converts, knowing that yours has turned out so well.

If I didn't have an Oval, mmmmm ..........................

maybe!

VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#351389
VWCOOL wrote:Yeah engine transplants are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
Yeah twin webers are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more

Yeah scat cranks and mahle pistons are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more

I guess it depends on where you draw the line. At what point does it stop becoming a VW? If it looks like a VW it's a VW.

But we don't want to get off topic here. So what was the topic anyway?

Jak,

By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.

Wes
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

fullnoise Fahrvergnugen

964 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#351428
The conversion looks like a lot of work and I swear Jak should be an engineer and not an architect.

Imagine the R & D work trying to get that kind of a torque curve and that much horsepower out of a beetle engine. Then the conversion doesn't look that big.

I'm disappointed that Jak didn't do a few tweeks just to hit the majic 200 hp mark. It's so close.

Well done Jak. I think you should have a Maltese Star on your sig line.

Congrats to Pastitzi (sp?) Racing and Cable Tie Engineering.
esratrams

Baldy67 Wolfsburg Wizard

429 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#351465
well done jak........:thumb

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#351516
Baja Wes wrote:
VWCOOL wrote:Yeah engine transplants are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
Yeah twin webers are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more

Yeah scat cranks and mahle pistons are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more

I guess it depends on where you draw the line. At what point does it stop becoming a VW? If it looks like a VW it's a VW.

But we don't want to get off topic here. So what was the topic anyway?

Jak,

By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.

Wes
yeah blah blah blah.. Some of you blokes have thin skins!

Err..12-something... 4-something... Real good calculations, Wez! Sure you didn't just pluck those figures out of thin air?!


[Edited on 6/5/2005 by VWCOOL]
Pay your debts, CxxT

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#351559
The acceleration times vary alot depending on the specifics of Jak's car that I don't know.

You obviously don't know me very well, I don't pull numbers out of thin air.

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Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#351562
I know you'd be smarter than to say "12-something". That's what a ricer would say😉
Pay your debts, CxxT

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#351576
56astro wrote:Well done Jak.

We've had our differences, but I genuinely mean it when I say you must be very pleased and proud of what you have achieved. I admire the short time it took to do the conversion. I am sure there will be a few more converts, knowing that yours has turned out so well.

If I didn't have an Oval, mmmmm ..........................

maybe!
Yes I am proud Steve, Disassociation never felt so good!:kiss

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#351577
Nice work Wes...hard to believe those figures when you think your car is quick doing 15's. Even harder when Jaks conversion cost $4000 not $10k+.

Hey doesnt VW own the design rights to the ej20t?
So it is still a vw after all.

Matt

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#351579
Jak,

By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.

Wes

I think high 13 Wes, with a high mph. I like to be conservative & have a surprize at the end.!
Oh & my car weighs 1000kg now.
regards
Jak
PS thanks for doing that!

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#351595
fullnoise wrote:The conversion looks like a lot of work and I swear Jak should be an engineer and not an architect.

Imagine the R & D work trying to get that kind of a torque curve and that much horsepower out of a beetle engine. Then the conversion doesn't look that big.

I'm disappointed that Jak didn't do a few tweeks just to hit the majic 200 hp mark. It's so close.

Well done Jak. I think you should have a Maltese Star on your sig line.

Congrats to Pastitzi (sp?) Racing and Cable Tie Engineering.
Yes my friend, here at Pastizzi Racing & Cable Tie Engineering we don't discriminate, from single plug 1941's to wrx conversions.
It's all happening!
As for the Maltese cross, they're like Oakley Stickers these days, every fukwits got one!
Jak

[Edited on 6/5/2005 by Jak Rizzo]

squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#351600
Damn fine result Jak. Now to get down to Terrigal on a Thursday night and shut the ricers up.

gayanne Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#351614
Matt that is correct,its still a vw design all German design motor. The Patient design was given to Japan on clauses that they changed it from a standard design to a upgraded steriod motor to what we see today.(This is fact not fiction)JVLRacing

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#351615
1000kg with or without the driver?

1000kg + driver will push you into the 13's, correct.

I don't think the aerodynamic figures are quite right though, because it is predicting a top speed of 205kph. VW's are pretty unaerodynamic though. The Cd figure I have is I think for an early standard beetle, yours would be better I guess.

And anyone with Excel 2000 or better can download and play with that program.
http://www.offroadvw.net/exceldyno/

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www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#351619
Thats pretty much spot on Wes, probably 1070kg with me , full tank of fuel & the stereo on!
regards
Jak

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#351646
squizy wrote:Damn fine result Jak. Now to get down to Terrigal on a Thursday night and shut the ricers up.
lol... Top idea!
Pay your debts, CxxT

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#351648
gayanne wrote:Matt that is correct,its still a vw design all German design motor. The Patient design was given to Japan on clauses that they changed it from a standard design to a upgraded steriod motor to what we see today.(This is fact not fiction)JVLRacing
What does that all mean?
Pay your debts, CxxT