As are all Australians, I've been watching the Corby case with great
interest.
I'm unable to come to a conclusive decision, but on the evidence I've
witnessed, mainly from the extreme close ups of her face, there is
irrefutable evidence she plucks her eyebrows.
Perhaps this is because she is a beautician, and just enjoys practicing
her trade on herself. I hope the venerable Indonesian judges have had a
chance to closely examine other evidence as to whether or not, Schapelle
is in fact hairy, or not hairy.
Failing a successful appeal, I urge all Australians to assist in keeping her
well supplied with razors, wax and depilatory creams for the duration of her
incarceration
"evidence against her was ZERO!"
Yeah no evidence.... just that they found the pot in her bag!!
Who is going to risk 4-5 kg of pot in someone elses bag?! she took it, she'd done it before and not thought of the consequences, i feel sorry for her cause of how silly she was, and now she's gonna rot in prison. I think they should do this prisoner exchange thing, then have a reality TV show based on her life in prison.
Innocent or not, I have doubts, the evidence has not had to be proven.
With a legal system that at least pretends to be fair it must be proved beyond reasonable doubt that the items were hers. The case would not have lasted in any country with a half reputable legal system.
We miss a lot of guilty people here, but that is the risk with a system that puts the onus on the prosecution to PROVE its allegations. You can prove that something belongs to someone in most cases, but it is impossible to prove it does not belong to you!
By the sound of it, no one really knows what was going on with her and Bali. No one really knows (the public that is) that she is guilty or innocent.
Its going to be a while before the full story flopps its fat ass over the media. We won't really know till some author publishes a book or something about the incident. You can't trust the media to provide 'full coverage' and the complete story.
Dam if we know. But it is sad to see a 27 year old get 20yrs in prison. I haven't even lived that long and i see that as quite a while. She won't get out till she is 47!!!! By then, her life would be starting to deteriorate with old age, and her mental state would be so degraded.
Yeah, the bali 9 are dick heads, corby? well i dunno. And the bali bomber getting only 2.5 yrs, well thats rediculous. If thats the case, corby should try to escape and blow up the prison, cause if she gets caught again for killing all the guards and running, it would only be around 2.5 years extra (like the bomber). But it would be pretty hard with prison security and all. oh well.
Life sux.
But i have a question for all of you. Do you really believe a 20 year sentence would be a decent length sentence for her to learn her lesson? Don't you think its a bit excessive? 2 to 3 years would be enough hardship in their crap hole prisons to learn a lesson, but 20, Shit.
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If Scapel was a 20 year old Aussie of midle eastern decent would anyone be interested? I think not, call me cynical but all this attension is largely due to the fact thet she is attractive young and femle. Mitchell
23 windows ...8 too many!
Totally agree with you there Mitch.
The whole thing has been blown out of proportion by the press, If she wasnt so photogenic we would have had a few lines about it in a Sunday paper and thet would have been all we heard.
Do you think this phone bloke, Crazy John would have offered his help if she didnt make good press, I doubt it.
I dont see him trying to help the Bali 9's lezzer.
Do the crime, pay the time.
I know this has been mentioned before and I dont really believe the press but a fact that is true is that her father has 2 convictions for drug dealing,
I will leave you with that thought.
Cheers
Dave
Leave it to the Hoff.
hahahahahaha Classic...... the hoff will get her out.
"No one knows if she was guilty or not"
WHAT??? she IS guilty, she took the drugs into the country FACT. therefore she is guilty.
Was it hers? no one knows...... well she knows, and if she is lieing then she is a dickhead for trying it.
not visiting bali will make shit all difference, it is even more ridiculous when it is for one person (of about 100 australians who are detained overseas for drug charges) who hasn't even proven her innocence.
If she wasn't white, young, female (and not butch) and it was in another country that wasn't muslim and we were good buddies with, this whole media circus would not have happened.
The channel 9 is not fact! 🙂
Jon
WABaja wrote:Take back all the money Australia has given these scum bags in "Aid" then close the doors to that M#sl%m Toilet and ensure that no Australian has the ability to enter the country for any reason and none of that garbage can make it's way over here...
Bali Bomber WALKS FREE, Stooley set up on drug charges 20 YEARS...
THE JOINT'S A JOKE...!!!!
nuclear strike....!!!!
A couple of things... Bali is not a Muslim country, but most of the rest of Indonesia is. I've been there 4 times (and just 6 months ago) and the people are beautiful loving people when you get to know them, but I was offered dope by a cop in uniform. It's corrupt, and their justice system is corrupt... hang on, so is ours... But you would have to be cautious going into a country where you are assumed guilty until proven innocent. Whether she is guilty or not isn't known (I don't think she is), but being locked upfor 20 years in ANY country for having 4kgs of a relatively harmless plant is ludicrous, and I've never smoked the stuff so I'm not exactly pro dope. I feel as though I would be playing Russian Roulette if i keep going there. It now seems too risky. Then again, maybe it's just fear hyped up from all the media coverage. My2c worth. Also as an aside, i realise that many here bag the shit out of mynameischris, but he's just a kid... give him a break for God's sake.
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
Adam_C wrote:hahahahahaha Classic...... the hoff will get her out.
"No one knows if she was guilty or not"
WHAT??? she IS guilty, she took the drugs into the country FACT. therefore she is guilty.
How do you know that? Did a Balinese baggage handler plant it?? or an Aussie one? Either way, it would've been after she checked her bag on, and before she got it back.
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
foxy_fuchsia wrote:I don't like John Howard very much and he has been sitting on his backside quite a bit but he has to be careful the this situation if you think about it. If he got mad and started slagging off Bali then he would have no 'bargaining power' with the president of Bali.
fortunately for us, Bali has nothing to offer us except tourism, and it's ascetic world view.
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
I reckon no one in the public at all would be able to fully justify her guilt or innocence. Who are we to judge? We have never met her, never seen her, never talked to her, never met her, never heard the decent full story on the news. (well, there may be atleast one lucky person who may have)
For all that we know, she may not even exist. No one really knows anything, unless ur a family member or you ARE Corby. So who are we to say?
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I think that would have to be the most sensible thing that I have ever seen you post !
I totally agree, there are always 3 sides to the truth, mine, yours and the truth. Noone will actually know what happened
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Just because her father has had 2 drug convictions doesn't mean it makes her a drug dealer! And what does being an ex call girl have anything to do with it? pfft!! Nothing at all.
And Chris, that is also the most sensible thing I have heard you say...most of the time I think you tend to dribble on about nothing and everything! just kidding 😉😉
waltermitty wrote:she is attractive young and femle. Mitchell
I think she is unattractive
but the prison guards she will have to blow to get her mail might fancy her
Keeping it real !
The truth will never be known
That's true^^^^ :P
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
:thumb
Yeah, that was a pretty sensible thing to say. I feel proud. Finally the adult is starting to come (very slowly) out of me.
I don't find her hot ever. But alot of people see my tastes in women very conflicting lol:P
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At 1st I thought She wasn't guilty....
mainly as I don't like Indonesia as a Country....
but when She appears on TV the past months, with make up & hair done etc.... in nicely ironed clothes......
that did NOT do her any good.....
in one ear - We are told how harsh the prisons are over there, and She turns up looking Good with nice clothes and even the eyebrows done....
She wouldn't be that stupid to just stick it in her boogie board bag...... its too stupid for words.....
20 years in an Indonesian Jail..... I'd rather be shot....
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I think its really sad.. everytime i watch her i almost start crying! i just think about being in the situation.. only a few people will ever know if shes innocent or guilty, personally i think she is innocent.. just because her family has past history doesnt mean she is the same! although it doesnt do her any good either!
The thing that bloody annoys me the most is that the bali bommers get sooo little time, and she got 20 bloody years,, where's the justice??
When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace- Jimi Hendrix
its a well known fact in todays litiginous society, its the criminals who get the least time...
this is because they know their 'rights' and the little loopholes in their countries outdated laws...
yes, it pisses me off that someone who may or may not have knowingly carried a large amount of a pretty harmless plant into another country gets 20 years, and some people who blew up a building as a terrorist maneouvre get 2.5 years... but thats because the bad guys know the law and how to make it work for them, and the little guys get screwed.
in the beginning, the universe was created.
this made alot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
foxy_fuchsia wrote:Just one more thing, I am never ever ever ever going to Bali in my life!! I just feel sorry for the people that live there
[Edited on 27-5-2005 by foxy_fuchsia]
I'm sorry if I sound rude, but that is a very childish and close-minded view of the situation and Bali as a country. Do some research.
THe MC Bat Commander's motto: "Never do now, what you could do for 24 hours straight, all night, the night before."
Why would you try and take something in to their country which is so readily available there anyway? Last time I was there I could have bought from nearly every 5th or 6th hawker in Kuta. Either way the should give her the drugs now because she's going to need them to make the 20 years go easier. Unfortunate for her that 20 years over there MEANS 20 years, not like the spineless jellyback system over here. What if the appeal goes the other way and she gets life or even the death penalty? As far as I'm concerned, all traffickers/pedophilles/murderers deserve death, not a warm room and 3 hot meals a day at my expense. If she's innocent karma will come around, it will just take time.
77 bay, I asked this question myself. It's like bringing oil to Arabia right?
Wrong. Apparently quality aussie dope is highly prized over there and is better than the shit hash the balinese locals are flogging.
Also, it's hard for westerners to score a smoke over there without fear of a setup or even being sold gear by dodgy cops.
There is an amount of aussie gear getting smuggled in for westerners in bali who want a decent chuff without the massive risks. Would you not trust a fellow aussie more over there?
Untermensch wrote:77 bay, I asked this question myself. It's like bringing oil to Arabia right?
Wrong. Apparently quality aussie dope is highly prized over there and is better than the shit hash the balinese locals are flogging.
Also, it's hard for westerners to score a smoke over there without fear of a setup or even being sold gear by dodgy cops.
There is an amount of aussie gear getting smuggled in for westerners in bali who want a decent chuff without the massive risks. Would you not trust a fellow aussie more over there?
Quite correct and most of it is sold out of tourist resorts. And guess who's sister works in one?
yours?
After reading everyone's posts - here's my 2 cents.....
Firstly I have no idea if she is innocent or guilty. i believe she is innocent for the most part - but have a niggling doubt that makes me not sure....
Anyway, I too thought it was strange that the bag of dope fitted perfectly inside a boogie board bag - but after more thought, realise that it is also "suitcase" size - so perhaps Mr baggage handler (??) was waiting for an unlocked suitcase to come along but boogey board bag came first?? Lot's of people take half empty suitcases over. (Still doesn't account for how mr baggage handler carried it to work and stashed it waiting for the right bag!!)
I always lock my bags when travelling, but I stupidly thought it was to avoid things being stolen - not so people could plant shit in your bags. So I never would have locked my boogey board bag coz I would have thought that if it was to be stolen, they would just take the whole thing. (Who locked their bags in fear of things put in as opposed to coming out?)
And finally, does her sister work over there, coz I am hearing conflicting evidence that her sister does not live over there at all so am interested to know about that.
I don't think you can ask for aid back or stop giving aid - they are too different things - aid is humanitarian, for the people (not for the government). People in power in Indonesia may well be corrupt - the lot of 'em - but the people are lovely (and don't feel sorry for them living here - they probably feel sorry for us living here under Howards regime - lol). But they mostly struggle to earn every $$, and for the most part it will be the people that you are hurting if you boycott Bali, you would have to hurt a lot of people before it started affecting the government.
oops - a long one, sorry....
