I am having some difficulty getting cetification of the cast component of my CB dropped spindles.
They are made with a cast component and spindle ('spike') iteself is chromoly, pressed in.
I need to get some strength tests confirming the cast component. I have contacted CB, and I m waiting for a reply.
If anyone has had their car engineered, I would love to hear from you, cos I may need some guidance on how else to satsify the requirements if the test results arent forthcoming.
I hope that CB can give me some after sales service, as they would have had to test the product during development stage.
BTW, I am running the dropped spindles with the wide 5 disc brake system, on a K&L beam.
any advice appreciated!
[Edited on 19-6-2005 by Golde60]
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Some of CBB's customers have had their CBB made spindles engineered. I'm pretty sure they require x-raying as well as strength tests.
I am about to buy a set to replace lowered front beam. Then i shall be getting the car engineered, sounds like it is going to be fun and games. wonder if i should leave the lowered front beam in to get engineered.
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=38364#pid346951
Old Hutcho wrote:.....I just got my 70 bug blue slipped and engineered for a number of things, including a set of CBB drop spindles. I provided the engineer with the specs from the seb site, referred him to Wayne Horsfall in Ulladulla (who knows a fair bit about these things) and satisfied himself that they were a quality product, manufactured for VW. Once he knew all the info the car sailed through engineering. I do not know why any other engineers would do it any other way.
Old Hutcho
I have also heard if you get them cryogenically treated it helps in the engineering process
Futue te ipsum!!!
sorry guys - im not talking about cbb (custom bugs and buses), i have cb (cb performance) dropped spindles.
i do have a cbb narrowed beam, which i thought was gonna be a real problem for the engineer to certify.
he took one look at it however and said it was not a problem. goes to confirm that cbb's work is first class.
anyway, back to the spindles. i looked at cbb's but i could nt get these to work with a set of wide 5 disc brakes. i also looked at vvds disc setup, which werent finished at the time, but these didnt work with dropped spindles. i also looked a shermans, but i was cautious about the inconsistencies and dubious quality (not from personal experience, but i was warned off).
as you can see, i did my homework, as i wanted to spend money with an australian business if possible.
ultimately decided that a cbb narrowed beam and a cb dropped wide 5 setup was the best for my requirements at the time.
sorry to ramble on.
what i m after is data on cb dropped spindles. i know lots of people out there use them, so i d like to hear from them or possibly some engineers about how to satisfy the requirements.
i am hoping that the info from cb will be forthcoming, as i presume they would have done some testing in the product development stage.
[Edited on 26-5-2005 by Golde60]
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silverbullet wrote:I am about to buy a set to replace lowered front beam. Then i shall be getting the car engineered, sounds like it is going to be fun and games. wonder if i should leave the lowered front beam in to get engineered.
Yep...
Pay your debts, CxxT
Contact Dasdubber he is getting them done on his Bug. I have had a few sets go through but that is in sunny qld
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australiasimple just ont get m engineered 😉😉😉😉😉 i havent used any of this stuff before so am unsure i just hope you get it on the road soon!
cheers
rhys
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Well I haven't heard any thing bad about any of the dropped spindles.....
and they seem to be the "proper" way to go......
Would have been better to get it registered with a normal front end..... IMHO
Lee
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sorry guys, but i m a letter of the law kinda guy, especially when i have done it all properly, and i ve got nothing to hide.
not much point doing the right thing if its not insurable.
lets not go there....
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im the same kim with my bug its all or nothing in my books. good luck with it mate
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just checked my emails....
...still nothing from CB.
i hope i get a reply soon, at least to confirm if it will be available.
final option will be to get an extra spindle sent out and have it tested by the engineer
i hope i dont have to go down that route, and if i do, i CERTAINLY hope that it passes the tests.
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still no reply from CB after a week.
sent them off a reminder today.
hopefully that gets things moving.....
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I talk to the owner(Rick) a fair bit and will be seeing him next week in LA.
I`ll send him an email and ask for you.
Nathan
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Golde60 wrote:sorry guys, but i m a letter of the law kinda guy, especially when i have done it all properly, and i ve got nothing to hide.
Wish there were more people like you!
Big thumbs up!
I second that.
Good luck and I hope you get it through.
Cheers
Dave
Contacted CB performance and I have your answer.
The answer to your question is as follows,
The Cast part of the Spindle is Ductile Iron, the same used by Chevrolet.
It is then anealed for stress relief and for easier machining.
The Spindle pin is made from 4340 Chromoly and pressed in place using Loctite Stud and Bearing mount.
This has been a very Successful product for Me over the last 10 years and I have sold over. 10 thousand to date.
Rick
Is this what you want KIM
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can you please forward me the email as confirmation that this is from CB and hopefully I can get it all signed off by Bill.
he will need it in writing from CB no doubt
email it to me......
THANKS
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Do CBB etc., actually have a licence to manufacture or modify beams and spindles. I didn't think general mechanic or rust repair would cover it, especially if the components are not 'new' or 'original' but modified second hand?
maybe not an issue if you hit a cat, but might hit if it was something more serious?
Just a thought, stand by to correct me/
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Hey Kim, glad to see you are making some progress hopefully with the engineer. As Brad stated above I have the same spindles (using porsche pcd) but haven't gone through engineering to date. Originally I visited the engineer with my discs, caliper brackets, beam, and spindles - all before assembly. He did not request any strength testing at the time upon initial inspection so I have my fingers crossed I won't have to disassemble everything to get these things checked!
Hopefully I will be able to provide some information to him as you've obtained from CB performance to satisfy any concerns. But I guess I'll find out soon!
Alan
hasnt been ok'd as yet, cos, i havent had the chance to talk to the engineer yet.
i will keep you guys all posted.
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still struggling with this.
have sent another email to CB, and big thanks to Nath who has helped no end to get me this far.
I will be happy to share the info with others who are already/want to run the CB dropped spindles.
once i get the right info from CB things should be rosy
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Cool
as I am planning to run a narrowed and adjusted CBB beam with CB drop spindles, I am curious as well Kim. I know I am probably luckier being up here, but I want all my car certified so its covered and legal as well.
I may follow dasdubbers lead and take it all into an engineer before it gets assembled just for checking. (I am just using normal VW disc fronts at the moment but I want wide five somehow 🙂)
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crewcabconnection wrote:Do CBB etc., actually have a licence to manufacture or modify beams and spindles. I didn't think general mechanic or rust repair would cover it, especially if the components are not 'new' or 'original' but modified second hand?
maybe not an issue if you hit a cat, but might hit if it was something more serious?
Just a thought, stand by to correct me/
CBB have a full-time Fabricator on staff.
All of their parts pass with flying colours when presented to engineers.
One customer took his spindles to BHP to be x-rayed and others have had them done elsewhere and the results show they are probably better than from the factory.
Yeah my mate's brother said he overheard a bloke in the pub say that... but is it possible to get some paperwork/proof?
Pay your debts, CxxT
has been no response from CB as yet. a bit disappointing, but hopes are still high at this stage.
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