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HELP: has anyone had a car engineered with CB dropped spindles? UPDATE.... still waiting

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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#373848
UPDATE: more information is still required from CB, who have been completely non responsive to my emails up to this point in time.

Thanks to Nath for the info which he forwarded through his contact, but i m still yet to get even a confirmation that my email has been received from CB, as I need more to satisfy the engineering req's

not to pleased at this point, but i hope that CB redeem themselves next week. I will have to call them to remind (politely) them that I m still waiting.

will keep you guys posted.

damn, this is an ordeal.

i can see why people are reluctant to have their car's engineered!!
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flashman Seriously Crusin Dubber

176 posts · joined Jun 2005 ·

#373866
Kim,

I can really see how frustrating this has been for you - from your experience it is easy to see why people don't get their cars engineered. BUT the consequenses should it go pear shaped are not worth thinking about.

Sorry to state the obvious but your prob with the droped spindles stems from product base and customer support from the manufacturer, NOT THE PRODUCT ITSELF. It may be possible to circumvent the waiting game by having one of your spindles x-rayed and hardness tested. The report generated will more than satisfy ADR's depending on what the hang up is with the engineer. The drama will more than likely be not on the quality of the product but it will centre on whether or not the imported product complys

I know it is a bit different in New South but it may be a starting point if all else fails.

Godd luck with it all and don't give up.
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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#373870
I hope you are correct regarding the support, and not the product. I am in trouble if the product is poor too!!

I really only need verification of what materials that have been used in one component of the product, not compliances with various countries rules.

If I was to get the product tested, the x-ray/hardness test which you mentioned would not satisfy the situation, as the spindle is of a different design (ie shape) to the original and whilst it may be crack free, hard/ductile/etc enough, the shape may not satisify the strength req's.

I would need to get the product failure tested to determine it's ultimate strength.

for obvious reasons this is a path that i dont want to tread
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#373905
I would be VERY VERY suprised if you hear from CB. Many US companies don't give a f((k about some lone Aussie... they are quite happy making their $$ in the US market where the simple line on thier products: 'for off-road use only' covers thier corporate arses...
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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#374203
yeah, i m starting to agree. i hope that they come through and help me though.

i suppose it will go to show the difference between a company that is supporting the hobby/culture/scene and one that is primarily interested in making money

btw, the products are not marketed 'for off road use only' they are clearly sold as a roadgoing product.

time will tell with CB.....

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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#374206
sorry but have you phoned them and spoken to anyone? if so, wat was the response? i dont often get emails back from these places but phone calls can make the difference....
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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#374209
have sent multiple emails, and i m planning on ringing them next week

i was hoping i could sort it out with emails.

what has your luck been like with them??
i hope its only a phone call away!
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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#374211
im sure a phone call will b very helpful, emails cant be relied upon, i often get emails 2 months after i send them, by that time ive forgotten wat i was enquiring about. just call them b4 u get worried, cheap to call the states these days
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HGFS Wolfsburg Wizard

531 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#374220
There's other companies in the US that sell CB spindles, like Serrano's, Moore Parts etc check the ads in Hot VW's. Just thought maybe if you emailed one of those guys under the pretence of buying some but ask "first can they give you any info on the construction so you can run it by your engineer to see if they're legal in Aus". I know its kind of misleading but isn't that what retailers are for??😀
I've dealt with Serrano's and he is very quick at returning emails.
Sucks that CB won't respond - you'd think they would have it all on file as a standard response.
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BUGBOY Moderator Chief Toy Dude / Head Cruiser

2,147 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#374274
I just got back and while I was over I met up with the friend and owner of CB.
In the US they have different rules etc on the engineering things etc.
Also for the last few weeks they have been very busy with all the VW shows going on and this could be the reason to your email have not been reponded to.
As it turns out they are working on it as we speak.
But just to let you know these kits pass TUV in germany which is of a very high standard.
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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#374400
thats great news nath - i m really looking forward to getting cruising in my car.

i hope you had an awesome trip - did you get heaps of goodies for your engine?

i bet you came back with a bagfull of stuff and some boxes on the way!!

thanks heaps for following it up while you were on holidays - much appreciated.
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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#375029
I received a response from CB tonight, which I have forwarded onto my engineer.

At this stage there response is quite vague and frankly to date their post sales service has been disappointing.

I hope that what I have is enough to get the car through engineering, as I suspect I have got all the information that I am going to get out of CB
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ruckus Veteran Volks Folk

2,118 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#375030
Kim if there's anything I can do to help please let me know as I'll probably have to go through with this at some stage.

Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#375049
ruckus u have u2u
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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#376025
man i wish this was over.

might have a bit of a lead with TUV approvals done in Germany.

would be nice if I could get more info off CB.

oh well, no-one said that it was going to be easy.

at least there is still i light at the end of the tunnel. i just hope its not a train coming in the other direction.
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Adam_C Custom Title Time!

1,180 posts · joined May 2003 ·

#376736
Are the CBB ones rta certified, i thought you needed them X rayed to get them passed and it is upto the customer to do that as cbb has not? is that right matt?........
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#376781
Adam_C wrote:Are the CBB ones rta certified, i thought you needed them X rayed to get them passed and it is upto the customer to do that as cbb has not? is that right matt?........
Several customers have had them passed. Their x-rayed ones have come up tops.

I also think there is provision for a fabricator who is certified to weld to a particular Australian Standard.

You are best to talk to them about the details.

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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#377466
so are u saying the CBB spindles AREN'T RTA certified?
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#377524
VWFOOL wrote:so are u saying the CBB spindles AREN'T RTA certified?
Like I said, ask them.

I do know that all that have been engineered have been approved.

Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#379927
So now i need to get the info from a German site. Anyone know any good German forums?


........or better still, does anyone know any Germans running CB dropped spindles who have the TUV certification

I cant get any joy from CB Perfromance. I have been told by Custom Speed Parts (who re-sell CB Spindles in Germany) that they will only provide a the TUV Certification if I purchase the spindles from them

I already have them here, I just want the details so that I can get the engineering Certificate.

damn this drawn out process.

Anyone know any friendly Germans??
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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#380924
he wants more than just the crack test
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RENNWAGEN Seriously Crusin Dubber

158 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#381387
U2U subaruboxer he is in germany and posts in the engine conversion forum he may be able to help.

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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#381427
so hav u called them and spoken to the yet?
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