How much does a pony cost?

boof2332 · 2005-06-20T14:35:43+00:00

Jak and I were talking the other day about how Paul wants to run NOS and 20+pound 1.because it will be ridiculously quick and 2. if it blows up then he goes and grabs another for $800 and is back on the road in a weekend. Apart from the initial set up for a specific motor, what will it cost you per h/p to replace that same engine. On Jaks 195hp it is $4.10 per hp, I am hoping for 250hp which is $3.20 per hp. My 2332 cost $8000 and would have made about 150hp, which is $53.33 per hp. There are people paying $11000 for 130 hp....wait for it....$84 per hp!!! I went for a bit of a drive tonight, discovered M3 BMW's are slow, and thought to myself... this car screams, is relaible, smooth, fuel efficient, sounds like Darth Vader and if I want I can thrash the crap out of it because its only $800 if I screw the motor, and I dont have to wait for someone to rebuild it! I think my journey to the dark side is complete........ :vader

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 23 Jun 2005, 9:16 am

#375718

If you 'set up' a Subie properly with stock management, and don't fiddle with it - has anybody on here done that except for Buggy Brad? - they will last just about forever. I've seen the inside of several with 300,000km on them and they look like new (except for lifters which fail). But many people like to compulsively fiddle ("Get more power") and end up running into problems by doing so!

You have to factor in the actual conversion costs, too - radiator, managment, rewiring, bigger brakes, labour. Great if you can do it yourself, but not everybody can! A modded air-cooled VW engine is 'plug n play' and great fun. But yes, not as powerful as a Subie/rotary etc

Having said that, I've had plenty of fun with my 1640s and 1916s over tHE last 15 years... and now it's been rebuilt HERE WE GO AGAIN!

[Edited on 22/6/2005 by VWCOOL]

Pay your debts, CxxT

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 23 Jun 2005, 10:19 am

#375751

As long as u are content with the powerplant that u have & there are hot vw's roaming the streets, regardless of the powerplant, thats all that matters as far as I'm concerned.

I'm hoping to get my $850 with my engine, it's running 6 pounds less boost than factory, & also had some timing taken out of it so that I can run any fuel from any servo without fear of damage on boost. A few of the rexxy boys that I have been speaking to have another 50000ks+ on their engines that I have with double+ the boost & they flog them daily. Mine hasn't stopped running since Pauly & i first fired it up, hopefully it will stay that way, it should since I'm not greedy for power.
Jak

jvl054 Wolfsburg Wizard

403 posts · joined May 2005 · 23 Jun 2005, 10:46 am

#375765

VWCOOL, what sought of $$$ dollars are you looking at to rebuild your 1916? JVLRacing

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 23 Jun 2005, 11:17 am

#375777

I had a liberty 1991 model, the EJ22 in it had 180,00km on it and was still sweet when I replaced it with a 110,000km EJ20T. I then did about 35,000 kms with that and it NEVER skipped a beat.

Fantastic little engines.

But I'm with Jak - so long as there are hot vw's on the streets I'm a happy lad.

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 23 Jun 2005, 11:20 am

#375779

oh and PS what are you road registered guys paying in insurance with you EJ20 beetles ?

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 23 Jun 2005, 11:34 am

#375785

jvl054 wrote:VWCOOL, what sought of $$$ dollars are you looking at to rebuild your 1916? JVLRacing

Just paid $2.5K to have Stan do replacement case and new heads around my old P&Cs, rods and crank. The old ones died from old age...!

[Edited on 23/6/2005 by VWCOOL]

Pay your debts, CxxT

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 23 Jun 2005, 12:44 pm

#375809

Doug Sweetman wrote:oh and PS what are you road registered guys paying in insurance with you EJ20 beetles ?

$285 for comprehensive from Shannons, 2nd car (low milage) up to 8000kays a year. That gives me $8k worth of cover for my EJ25 buggy. I could get more, but that's all I can afford at the mo.

Keeping in mind i'm 32 and have no prior convictions or accidents in the last 3 years.

Excellent value I reckon. Only 30bucks more than 3rd party property.

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,474 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 23 Jun 2005, 12:48 pm

#375810

damn you peter thats less than my green slip this year :cussing

[Edited on 23/6/2005 by barls]

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Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 23 Jun 2005, 12:59 pm

#375815

far out thats an incredible price. I cant wait until I'm an old fart too 🙂

just kidding, I'm only 25 though, so not quite out of the age issue with the insurance companies. That is an excellent rate though, I'm impressed.

I guess the fact its a lowkm's ploicy makes a big difference ?

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 23 Jun 2005, 12:59 pm

#375816

Mine is about $1100 a year form Shannons, but it's valued quite high & I have track (race) insurance & I also have unlimited klm's which I need.
I also get my car back no questions asked if something should ever happen to it.
regards
Jak

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 23 Jun 2005, 1:05 pm

#375818

I figured around the $1k mark for a daily driver insurance. How much does the track insurance add to it ?

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 23 Jun 2005, 1:06 pm

#375819

barls wrote:damn you peter thats less than my green slip this year :cussing

Barls you turkey, it's less than my greenslip too! And thats for modified car insurance! 😀

But seriously, I'm really stoked about it. I only drive the car about once a week coz I catch the train the rest of the time. I've also got salvage rights just like Jak was saying.

Even for you young guys, it might be time to give them a call. It you don't drive the car much it a real boon. 😉

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,474 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 23 Jun 2005, 3:30 pm

#375864

yeah but my insurance is about $600 for the stock bug im driving where as my greenslip is $370 cause im under 25, but chaos will only be 800 for full insurance

“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
the chaos project - click me

jvl054 Wolfsburg Wizard

403 posts · joined May 2005 · 23 Jun 2005, 5:04 pm

#375908

Dam good insurance for great Subie hps!!!!:PJVLRacing