Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head
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Did u get the microtech dash as well?
regards
Jak
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Or is that a limitation?VWCOOL wrote:None on the one I've just done... MAF doesn't need air temp correction... Ahh, the beauty of standard OE management systems!
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Hi Steve,very nice.Ive just found 2 G50s advertised in a mag...waiting on a price YEH YEH:thumb.JVLRacing1303Steve wrote:Hi
Its a G50 from a 1988 911.
G50 ratios kph
25.315 tyre 3.44 final drive
3.5 2.058 1.409 1.074 .861
1800 18.12 30.84 45.04 59.10 73.72
2000 20.15 34.26 50.05 65.67 81.91
2200 22.16 37.69 55.06 72.22 90.09
2400 24.18 41.11 60.06 78.79 98.29
2600 26.19 44.54 65.06 53.02 106.48
2800 28.20 47.97 70.06 91.93 114.68
3000 30.21 51.40 75.07 98.49 122.85
3200 32.23 54.83 80.08 105.06 131.04
3400 34.26 59.42 85.08 111.63 139.24
3600 36.27 61.67 90.09 118.19 147.44
3800 38.28 65.10 96.11 124.75 155.62
4000 40.29 68.53 100.10 131.32 163.81
4200 42.31 71.96 105.11 137.89 172.01
4400 44.32 75.39 110.10 144.46 180.20
4600 46.35 78.80 115.11 151.03 188.38
4800 48.36 82.23 120.12 157.60 196.42
5000 50.37 85.66 125.12 164.15 204.77
5200 51.52 89.04 130.13 170.72 212.97
5400 54.40 92.52 135.14 177.29 221.14
5600 56.41 95.95 140.15 183.86 229.34
5800 58.42 99.38 145.15 190.43 237.53
6000 60.45 102.79 150.16 196.99 245.73KPH
VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome
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Jak, I might not completely agree with some of what Steve has just said (re: use of OE management systems) but I think Steve is a bit smarter than the average bearJak Rizzo wrote:U should be very worried Stevie, with an aftermarket engine management system on your shiny STI engine, u have no hope in hell of doing hundreds of thousands of trouble free miles.
I'm certainly concerned!
Jak
PS nice gearbox!
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Yes, that is the main problem. Technically if you do an engine conversion you must all retain all the original emission control equipment. Most if not all states class the computer as part of the emissions control equipment, and therefore you can't change it on a conversion or a new car. The only way you can legally do it is by having the vehicle emissions tested again with the new computer, but that is currently expensive.VWCOOL wrote:is technically illegal for street rego in most states of Australia...
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Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head
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& why are u telling me this?..VWCOOL wrote:Jak, I might not completely agree with some of what Steve has just said (re: use of OE management systems) but I think Steve is a bit smarter than the average bearJak Rizzo wrote:U should be very worried Stevie, with an aftermarket engine management system on your shiny STI engine, u have no hope in hell of doing hundreds of thousands of trouble free miles.
I'm certainly concerned!
Jak
PS nice gearbox!
If it's set up properly there shouldn't be a problem. The key words are... set-up.
A bit off topic now, but... Why turn your back on OE knowledge if you don't have to? For the conversion I've just done, I let Subaru do all the hard work, research and dyno testing (although I think the PCM I used has been tweaked for more boost) I'm not a compulsive fiddler so I don't need to be able to acess fuel and spark while sitting the the lights. I'bve done the same with HOlden etc conversions in the past. Many people, like me, are happy to use a reliable factory tune with alls its closed-loop lean cruise, decel fuel cut-off, high stress engine preservation, idle compensation etc and leave it that way.
There seems to be a lot of mis-information dating waaay back to the 1980s relating to aftermarket management system. Many people think they MUST use aftermarket ECU to get a retrotech engine transplant running. But these days, in mamy cases, aftermarket management simply isn't required, certainly isn't as adaptive or 'smart' as OE, is technically illegal for street rego in most states of Australia and speaking generally, can often cause more expense with the requirement for new sensors etc etc and considerable dyno time. Of course they can be easily tuned with just a lap-top so have thier applications and uses.
The car I have been working on (WRX transplant) is a 100 percent certifiable conversion that started first turn of the key and after a little 'relearn time", drives just like every other WRX I've ever been in. It hasn't been a problem-free process but the probelms we've had haven't been related to the transplant - simply age etc of componenets. They certainly pale into insignificance when compared the dramas with aftermarket some on here seem to be having with two and more ECUs being employed for a no-result after months or years of weekend hacking with wiring and laptops and batteries and questions.
I spent maybe one hour connecting around 12 wires... The conversion took 2.5 days, drive in, drive out. Our total tuning effort and dyno time at $150/hour was Zip, yadda, nuffink..
No time off the road or away from work, extra expense chasing parts or complexity to get a possibly - probably - inferior result
Oh yeah.. Steve, nice box!
:thumb
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The 220km/h up-the-freeway-off-ramp dyno? :PJak Rizzo wrote:If I was Andrew I'd get it on the dyno just to be sure, I'm sure that Al from Sunspares would agree. Theres countless stories on the rexxy forums of guys with standard ecu's , with & without 'chips' runniong lean on boost especially with non standard exhausts & filters/air intakes. Would hate to see anything happen to all your hard work Glen.
Best to be safe
regards
Jak
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Steve, I put your porsche ratios into the Excel Dyno I made. Your first to second gear jump is the biggest. Thought you might be interested in the chart of it.