Superbug,
I see your point about there being no place to blow off steam, and there being silly laws, but that not really an excuse.
Dare I say it, but if you were really serious about learning from your mistakes, you could go and offer to pay for all the things you broke. Then people you wronged, like Amazer and myself, might actually repsect to you. (I've had 2 letterboxes broken and my house egged and a brick thrown at it for no reason whatsoever.) Growing up isn't just about looking back and regretting things, my baby daughter can do that, it's about owning up and paying for what you wrecked. Are you man enough to grow up?
BTW, what were your parents when you were out doing this stuff? If they knew what you were up to they deserve a kick in the bum too. Feel like laughing about this stuff now? :o
well spoken Pete Wood and Amazer. Everyone is not perfect, but its whether you can admit your mistakes and make good that makes the difference.
I remember a feller called Amrozi in Bali a year or two ago that could laugh it off, and wasnt stressed about what had already been done.
I've just spent a couple of hours down the garage making up a new lid for my mailbox. Not sure about opinionated, by I tell you what I am very vindictive. Rather than clean up the edges to make them safe, I have ground, filed, and honed them to an approximate 15 degree knife edge on all sides other than the posty side.
So when the pricks come back and try it again, they wont only be leaving finger prints, but they will also be leaving finger tips. I know that I could get into more trouble than the criminal by doing this, but call me old fashioned, I think it will be fun.
In speaking to some other people with similar problems I also have a few more solutions. I guy wrapped a string of barbed wire underneath the lid of his, another person who was having trouble with people climbing up onto a 2nd story verandah siliconed bits of broken glass around the edge. Apparently the sight of blood goes a long way towards compensation.
If you are bored and feel the need to trash other peoples belongings, may I offer these suggestions. This is what I used to do in my youth.
Go and hang out at the shopping centre and socialise.
Get on your bike and ride to the beach.
Go fishing.
Catch the bus into town and see a movie.
Catch the bus into town and watch some football.
You and your mates could actually go to a park and PLAY football, or cricket with your mates.
Sign up for indoor cricket/soccer/something.
Go for a ride on your bike to nowhere, just to see how fast you can get there.
Go to the gym and perv on the girls doing aerobics.
Go down to the skate park and roller blade or skateboard, or bmx.
If you must be a criminal, go and shoplift at Kmart or somewhere. At least they can jack the prices up to pay for it.
Dont give me shit that boredom causes this vandalism. The only thing that does it is deliquency, lack of morals, lack of respect.
[Edit: fix typos and add another couple of suggestions]
nn[ Edited on 2-8-2005 by amazer ]
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
*pats amazer on back*
that'll teach the little shits.
right, well..i'm 19 as most of you know..but i don't go around destroying shit (apart from the gravel in an unamed carpark :P)..and i didn't do it when i was younger either.
my parents were strict..you do something wrong..dad would give me a clip around the ear..and i wouldn't do it again...simple.. but yeh..the majority of damage is done (in my opinion) out of pure boredom! people are bored..like when i'm bored..i come on the computer..but i could go and be destructive...but anyway..the gym (and nice ladies) are closer too..so why bother!
zac
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I have a close mate who has a son in his twenties. They were doing up a VW dub some years back and it belonged to the son. Dad came home with heaps of new parts to find his wife in the kitchen in a very upset mood. Apparently the son had told his mum to "p#ss off". He'd been warned never to be rude to his mother and so it was no surprise when his dad gave him a back hander that knocked him flying and the new parts for the kid's car went back to the shop (much to my mates disappointment, they were rare). Now i don't know if I'd do quite the same thing, but he has a great relationship with his son and his son knows that he is serious when he warns him and the son has grown up into a responsible adult. My parents were the same, they took responsibility for us. My butt would't have been able to touch the seat for a month if i'd got up to anything like the garbage 71 is "laughing off".
Now these days, parents don't want this respsonsibility. They try to farm it out to the schools, the cops and anyone else they can think of. My brother is a teacher and you wouldn't believe some of crap hes seen because of this. If you're a parent and you're reading this, do you know where your kids are and what they are doing? If you don't it's time to wake up. Loving your kids doesn't mean letting them do what ever, it means giving them reasonable boundaries and making them responsible for their actions. And if they screw up, don't just cover for them, make them live with the consequences.
Sorry to get on my soapbox, but I think given the discussion we are having it's worth saying.
:o
nn[ Edited on 2-8-2005 by pete wood ]
this may seem like a silly question..probably because i'm young...
but why do people get onto a soap-box?
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Maybe i am old but in the old days down at the Domain people rather than ranting their beliefs on the internet they went down to the Domain with their soap box (ie solid wood box) and sprouted their beliefs where they could stand up above the crowd.
If you go there on a sunny Sunday there is still the old lecture being sprouted.
Futue te ipsum!!!
a long time ago. you would go down to the corner or town square with a 'soap box' or 'crate', stand on this and then talk ot the people. the saying has stuck, but now is more a slang for 'preaching'.
Simply Cruzin'...
Haha, get pics amazer next friday and saturday night of the blood and finger tips...But have the file ready to get rid of the sharp edges, these little pricks probably have parents who are likely to sue if it means they can remain on the dole for another few years...
Byronbus, if you get a whole lot o money out of a courtcase or the lottery or whatever, they actually stop you getting the dole. coz you don't need it...😉
i think the worst thing ive ever done is stolen a bar stool from towradgi sports bar on origin 2 night. other than that fairly straight.
another good one is pushing a mate around in a shopping trolley. for extra laughs, pad him up and hit the local skate park. if you dont have friends, a homeless person and/or librarian should suffice.
well said Pete Wood , all they need to do now is make the parents responsible for any monetary compensation if caught vandalising things,and yes i have 3 teenagers who are kept on a tight rein and would get a kick up the arse if caught doing anything like the above👍
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https://www.facebook.com/FlatFourI think its a bit hard for a parent to keep tabs on a teenager. I never told my parents I was going to the pub, but I imagine they knew after the fact when I came home giggling after a night at "the movies". And if I was staying out all night I could hardly say, "Liz's parents are away so Im going over for a weekend of shagging see you sunday night". I guess even before those years I could have said I was going anywhere other than where I was going. But they always knew what I had been up to afterwards, because of empty bottles at parties, sometimes there would be a girls handbag left in the lounge, and got busted a couple of times practicing the karma sutra.
I only have the one kid and thats how its likely to stay. She is only 7 and theres a lot of times for things to go wrong, but I think we're on the right path. She's too busy to learn anything wrong. Swimming ballet, athletics, reading, Simpsons and piano take up her entire life.
There was a phase not long ago when she started lying about things she'd done. Sometimes they were stupid things that she wouldnt have gotten in trouble for if she hadnt lied. Things like putting on her own nail polish. So she learnt quick smart that if she lies about something, she will get in twice as much trouble as what she would get into for doing the thing she was covering up. Forced to lay on her bed for 1/2 hour without moving just for using her makeup. Silly. So within a couple of weeks she was confessing to everything. She broke an egg on the kitchen floor and smeared it everywhere trying to clean up before coming in and confessing. Although I really wanted to go nuts about the mess, she had learnt a moral lesson of honesty so couldnt say anything but thankyou.
Oh another thing against the parental guidance argument is that I have known a family with 4 kids since I was 5 years old. 3 grew up normal responsible people, 1 was in and out of jail and ended up dying of a heroin overdose. So I dont really know the secret of good parenting, just be there, care, and cross the fingers I think... unless you left them on someones mailbox 🙂 Perhaps I should make 2 lids and swap them over when I find some leftover digits.
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amazer wrote:But they always knew what I had been up to afterwards...
that's the point I was trying to make.
🙂
And it sounds like they actually did something about it.
BTW, who's Liz?
Reason I ask is, I'm married to a Liz.:vader
well pete wood.
i appreciate your opinion on this matter..and believe me you these thigns have stopped since i have found a hobby that keeps me entertained...that being cars.
also...i know you didnt know but i think having a shot at me for laughing it off is pretty pathetic..would you rather people stress out over it therefore getting pissed off and more destructive?
i know what i did was wrong..i have paid my dues (in $$$ and many conversation with the people/police).
so to get someone telling me i shouldnt just laugh it off is out of order in my opinion. everyone has the ability to stop doing something and attempt to lead a happy life.
some people should learn to appreciate that instead of worrying about such things.
i mean wouldnt you think it the right thing if the kid that smashed your mailbox or window or whatever came upto you and offered to pay for it the day after? or would you still think he should feel bad forever about what he has done and sit in the corner to slit his wrists and write poetry? i did not ruin anything of YOURS so i think taking personal digs is uncalled for.
and also...no parents did not know....they have brought me up very well believe it or not. do i seem like that much of a wanker?
Anthony 🥷nn[ Edited on 2-8-2005 by 71superbug ]
lol, ya nervous? Dont remember her last name. Ask her if she lived at Mt Warrigal around 86-87. If it was the same liz she wont be too complimentary about me.
nn[ Edited on 2-8-2005 by amazer ]
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
I'm with Pete wood on this one. If I got up to anything and got caught when I was a kid I got my arse kicked hard. Taught me right from wrong. Problem today is it's all softly softly and dont yell. My 2 daughters (6 & 8) know when they're in trouble. My missus hates it but it is what I was brought up with. i tried it her way and it doesn't work for me.
Best punishment I have come up with so far is 1/2 and hour sitting in the laundry / bathroom. No toys or computers to play with.
Spare the Duct tape, spoil the job - Red Green
71superbug wrote:..and believe me you these thigns have stopped since i have found a hobby that keeps me entertained...that being cars.
that's the whole point, I don't own a letterbox so people can smash it for their own entertainment. It was wrong in the first place.
71superbug wrote:also...i know you didnt know but i think having a shot at me for laughing it off is pretty pathetic..would you rather people stress out over it therefore getting pissed off and more destructive?
No I don't think it is pathetic. Maybe if someone had had a shot at you before and made you pay for it, you wouldn't have done it again. ever heard the expression, "Money talks, bullcrap walks", well it works both ways, if you had to shell out everytime, you;d have stopped a lot faster.
71superbug wrote:i know what i did was wrong..i have paid my dues (in $$$ and many conversation with the people/police).
so to get someone telling me i shouldnt just laugh it off is out of order in my opinion. everyone has the ability to stop doing something and attempt to lead a happy life.
I'm pleased you payed your dues now, but don't laugh about it, it's still wrong.
71superbug wrote:i mean wouldnt you think it the right thing if the kid that smashed your mailbox or window or whatever came upto you and offered to pay for it the day after? or would you still think he should feel bad forever about what he has done and sit in the corner to slit his wrists and write poetry? i did not ruin anything of YOURS so i think taking personal digs is uncalled for.
Yes. No.
It hurts when people make you feel bad about stuff you know you shouldn't have done. It's called having a conscience. A conscience is a good thing, be ashamed and then get over it, just like you said.
But please don't ask other people, especially those who've been on the other end of such behaviour, to let you off. Coz they won't.
Sounds to me like you're well on the way to be a good bloke Anthony. I only say this stuff coz I think its better if you hear it. Imagine if no one ever told you when you were wrong. You end up like...like...ummm....President Clinton. :P
We don't want that do we?
🙅Whats wrong with president clinton?
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ive only knocked off the odd bar mat and glass but still i would get my arse so kicked id think id be in another planet if i got caught doing the stuff your describing amazer
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yes pete, i understand where your coming from..dont you worry about that..
hey at least clinton was interested in females...not like ballsucking bush that we got now 🙂
Anthony
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Cmon, Bush is a nice guy...at least he doesnt go around blowing up letter boxes...
coincidence or not? I received a postcard today....
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
it'd really be a coincidence if that sharp edges one was circled..
damn i knew i forogt something :P
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byronbus wrote:Cmon, Bush is a nice guy...at least he doesnt go around blowing up letter boxes...
haha.... bush doesnt go around blowing up letter boxes... haha...priceless.. now blowing up other countries however, that is another issue altogather... i feel sick everytime i see or hear bush our our little weasel howard...
oops sorry a bit off topic....
haha
Is that guy sanding off the sharp edges, or is he putting the edges on?
I think the new postman put it there to hint at something.
Maybe it is too low or too high?
All I can think of is that the missus nearly reversed over him this morning. Because I dont have a dog.
Oh hang on... I live at #3. WTF there are no sharks circling my letter box?!?!?!? Posty is on drugs.
oops sorry a bit off topic....
dont worry bout it. I've been to BA, bloody hijackers everywhere in that room.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
Believe it or not, it was just a coincidence. The neighbours all got a postcard. So my razor letterbox can stay.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
