LOL
we're gonna finish this conversation at Mt Dandy young lady!
oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!
2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
...and Robert's ya father's brother...
Semaphores
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
yes, going to run on 12volt and have flashing lamps....cram wrote:Are you rewinding them for 12 V?
picked up the wire yesterday arvo and getting some more stuff delivered next week. Then i can rewind them, rewire them and assemble them. Should be finished by Thursday, then gotta wire them into the car.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
Purple Martin Fahrvergnugen
913 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Very cool, please keep posting the pics cos I've never seen any this detailed elsewhere on the net!
1959 red & white Beetle
1975 Kombi camper
1975 Kombi camper
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
no probs.... i am just waiting on a few things via post to help me automate the process of winding the coils via a lathe.
Will post more pics when they are rewound.
Will post more pics when they are rewound.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!
2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
please do man! i'm watching in earnest... keep up the good work
...and Robert's ya father's brother...
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
well after a wait longer than expected i finally got the bits that i needed... have assembled most of what i need for rewinding and will finish it off on Tuesday. Then its onto the lathe and rewind time.
Hope to have it all finished by sat for the dandy cruise.
Hope to have it all finished by sat for the dandy cruise.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!
2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
awesome.. I hope you get em finished so I can check em out and get you to do mine! I fricken hate electrical work..
...and Robert's ya father's brother...
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
i dont like electrical work much either... but unfortunately i cant escape it since its part my day job... lol
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
well i have had some more setbacks with these damn semaphores... have had a trial run and it appears that what i was told by the coil winding people is incorrect!! i have two more ways of making em work that i can try so its back to the drawing board...
will post updates as i go.......
will post updates as i go.......
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
well finally had some time to work on the semaphores again and now have the arms working on 12 volts. I now have to reassemble them and wire the lamp seperately so that i can make it flash with the rest of the indicators. Then the fun begins of wiring them into the car.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
Purple Martin Fahrvergnugen
913 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Excellent, I was wondering if you'd had time to do some more on this. 👍
1959 red & white Beetle
1975 Kombi camper
1975 Kombi camper
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
have reassembled one with seperate wiring for the globe.
retested after assembly and it works great.
Will do the other one tomorrow then hopefully put them in the car this weekend.
retested after assembly and it works great.
Will do the other one tomorrow then hopefully put them in the car this weekend.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
BUGBOY Moderator Chief Toy Dude / Head Cruiser
2,147 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Just letting interested persons know that i have 12volt semaphores.
They are all new.
Just bolt them in.:thumb Can
email me if your interested.
They are all new.
Just bolt them in.:thumb Can
email me if your interested.
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blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
well its been a while ... have reassembled both semaphores and finally did some work on the car this morning.... have run new wiring for both semaphores but have struck a problem with the flasher unit... it does not work the way that i need it to work so am going to have to rewire part of the indicator system in order to get a constant 12volt to the coil and a flashing 12volt to the lamp.
will update as i go.
will update as i go.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!
2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
I've thought about this before - you'd just need to have an extra wire or two to the semaphore wouldn't you?
circuit 1- provides current for the solenoid (constant current when blinker is on)
circuit 2- is connected to the flasher can and bulb of the semaphore...
yeh?
The difficult part would be getting the extra wires to the B-pillar with the headlining still in place. Let me know how you manage this as I'll need to do it i think...
circuit 1- provides current for the solenoid (constant current when blinker is on)
circuit 2- is connected to the flasher can and bulb of the semaphore...
yeh?
The difficult part would be getting the extra wires to the B-pillar with the headlining still in place. Let me know how you manage this as I'll need to do it i think...
...and Robert's ya father's brother...
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
well the difficult part was running the wires through the existing channel in the pillar. i had one side still intact but the other side missing. the wire was run down to the floor of the car under the back seat and hooked into the rear indicator wiring.
I have now run two new wires from the semaphores down to the floor and along under the carpets to the front then up through an existing hole to behind the dash.
important thing to remember here is that the original design did not have a flasher unit installed as the semaphores did not flash.
the way that i thought the flasher unit worked was that the indicator lever switch is a basic 3 position switch with the common having 12volt supply to it. Then when you indicate the 12v goes to the flasher to tell it which side you indicated then it sends 12v to the indicators etc etc....
BUT... this is not how it is wired up. the flasher unit looks like it has a 12v supply and an output terminal. the wiring from the flasher goes to the common of the indicator switch then the two wires (for left and right signal) go to the indicator circuits. soooooo... i am assuming that what happens is when you indicate you load and ground the flasher unit through the indicator lamps thus making it flash..
this means that i have no 12v constant supply when you indicate to control the semaphores.
so what i have come up with is this....
i will rewire the indicator switch so it has 12v supply on the common... run the two wires for direction to two seperate DPDT relays. so the indicator switch will control the coils of the two relays - one for left indicators and one for right.
on one set of contacts i will supply 12v to the coils of the semaphores.
on the other set of contacts i will connect the flasher unit to the indicator circuit including the semaphores.
test out the theory on monday.
I have now run two new wires from the semaphores down to the floor and along under the carpets to the front then up through an existing hole to behind the dash.
important thing to remember here is that the original design did not have a flasher unit installed as the semaphores did not flash.
the way that i thought the flasher unit worked was that the indicator lever switch is a basic 3 position switch with the common having 12volt supply to it. Then when you indicate the 12v goes to the flasher to tell it which side you indicated then it sends 12v to the indicators etc etc....
BUT... this is not how it is wired up. the flasher unit looks like it has a 12v supply and an output terminal. the wiring from the flasher goes to the common of the indicator switch then the two wires (for left and right signal) go to the indicator circuits. soooooo... i am assuming that what happens is when you indicate you load and ground the flasher unit through the indicator lamps thus making it flash..
this means that i have no 12v constant supply when you indicate to control the semaphores.
so what i have come up with is this....
i will rewire the indicator switch so it has 12v supply on the common... run the two wires for direction to two seperate DPDT relays. so the indicator switch will control the coils of the two relays - one for left indicators and one for right.
on one set of contacts i will supply 12v to the coils of the semaphores.
on the other set of contacts i will connect the flasher unit to the indicator circuit including the semaphores.
test out the theory on monday.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!
2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
man, I had to read that a couple times and do funny actions with my hands to comprehend that stuff. Sparky work is definately not my forte... good luck with it dude... I'll be enthusiastically waiting for ya results!
...and Robert's ya father's brother...
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
hahaha.. no probs.. bought the relays today so will put them in tomorrow.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
Purple Martin Fahrvergnugen
913 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Looking forward to seeing how this goes as I'll be doing mine soon!
1959 red & white Beetle
1975 Kombi camper
1975 Kombi camper
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
well did all the wiring this morning... tested out the wiring before putting in semaphores to make sure nothing was wrong, turned on ignition and nothing... dammit.. after a few deep breaths and some choice words i found a wire had come off the ignition switch!! Do'h!
so after connecting that back up the dash lights came on and the original indicators all worked as they should...
connected the semaphores and they work, one is having trouble raising as it appears to be slightly bent and doesnt sit in the recess straight. so will take it to work and straighten it.
so after connecting that back up the dash lights came on and the original indicators all worked as they should...
connected the semaphores and they work, one is having trouble raising as it appears to be slightly bent and doesnt sit in the recess straight. so will take it to work and straighten it.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!
2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
So do they blink as well?
...and Robert's ya father's brother...
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
yep.. they blink nice and bright... :thumb
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
Purple Martin Fahrvergnugen
913 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Awesome! Can you post some kind of wiring diagram? Even if it's just a scan of something scribbled on the back of an envelope, or a picture knocked up in MS Paint. Please pretty please?
1959 red & white Beetle
1975 Kombi camper
1975 Kombi camper
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
hehehe... will see what i can knock up...
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
mscabrio Cabriolet Queen
2,308 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
Yay ! I am so over hearing about those blinking things, hopefully you can now move on and fix the problems with my bug !!!!
🤘
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
nah... wait your turn queue jumper!! 😀
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
i can put up a wiring diagram but dont know how well it will work with your car as i dont know what the flasher unit is set up like. but will put up a pic of mine before and after the changes.Purple Martin wrote:Awesome! Can you post some kind of wiring diagram? Even if it's just a scan of something scribbled on the back of an envelope, or a picture knocked up in MS Paint. Please pretty please?
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
well here is a pic of how mine were and are wired.
some things i have not shown on pic are.....
i have wired the 12volt supply to the semaphores through a fuse.
i have wired up my lamps seperately and they are connected to the rest of the indicator system so they flash (lamps have to be 12v of course).
some things i have not shown on pic are.....
i have wired the 12volt supply to the semaphores through a fuse.
i have wired up my lamps seperately and they are connected to the rest of the indicator system so they flash (lamps have to be 12v of course).
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see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
blutopless2 DAMSLO
2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
sorry bout pic but you will have to open it up to full size to see it properly.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
Purple Martin Fahrvergnugen
913 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
That's great, and it makes good sense. Thanks very much!
Which terminals are which on the semaphore?
Which terminals are which on the semaphore?
1959 red & white Beetle
1975 Kombi camper
1975 Kombi camper