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Has Anyone In OZ Put a Type4 engine into aType 3?

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Notch65s Officially Full-On Dubber

309 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#495654
Hey there guys, was thinking about putting a 2litre type 4 into my notch but was wondering if it was possible to keep the rear boor usable and what would be required to do this? Does anyone know ?

thanks michael

baybuscamperkid prince of insufficient light, ruler of heck

4,316 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#495665
i believe these were reasonably popular back in the day, with kits available to do it, with the right carb/airfilter etc i believe it is possible either to fit it all unter the stock lid or have a small bulge into the mini-boot on top.
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#495673
Hi

Chris Farser aka as Amazer had one in his fastback.

Steve

66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#495674
I am currently in the process of doing this now to my notchback, then will be selling it. It fits in nicely, with no modifications to the lid, i am going to use twin 40 IDF's with shortened manifolds and an air bellows adapter that you can get from south africa, that costs 100 Rand but converts to about 30 aussie dollars. I will be using the rear mount from the kombi which just requires shortening also and can fit in the existing rear hanger brackets in the type 3. For more info go to http://tunacan.net/t4/tech/index.shtml and look for t3 conversion, cheers Damo.
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Notch65s Officially Full-On Dubber

309 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#495698
Have u got any pics of ur conversion completed? would really be interested to see how it looks. is it possible to still run the heater? not to sure on how the heater works on the type 4 but for some reason i thought there was an eletric blower?

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Andy Andy\'s Adventures

2,820 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#495734
Heater on a type 4 works very similar to a type 3. The electric fan was a booser only, so it still works fine from the cooling fan, just plug the holes the electric fan would have attached to. You may need to modify the oulet location for cleanence issues though.
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6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#495735
midlifecrisis with their t4 powered t3 wagon. Said to have some real balls
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Andy Andy\'s Adventures

2,820 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#495737
bajachris88 wrote:midlifecrisis with their t4 powered t3 wagon. Said to have some real balls
Stock 2L max ~70hp, stock 1600 type 3 max ~63hp!
The main difference is the torque curve, it kicks in lower and is flatter in a type 4 motor. 1600's revs higher also.

(things get a bit different if you start modifying though).
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#495743
Hi

You can get pretty good hp from a type 4 (look at Dieters donut video), but as with a type 1 that power costs money. You might want to price it all up and then look at the costs of Subaru conversion.

Steve

empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#495790
There is a dark blue notch that has a turbo 2lt type 4 in it floatin around melberg, aint seen it in a while.

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amazeer Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,029 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#495820
I didnt think the kombi bar fit without modification? Thought it had to be moved forward a little?
Also, dont rely just on the bits of sheetmetal hanging inside the engine bay to hold the engine up. Run some threaded rod up to the boot floor and use some 1/4 plate to strengthen it a little. I found fitting my engine was a pain in the bum because there wasnt enough room lengthways but that was probably more to do with the kombi box setup. A few minor wiring issues with the alternator/generator thing. The egnine itself will fit under the boot floor easily, but carbs and airfilter is a different issue. I never ran the stock setup so dont know for sure but I cant envisage it fitting.

My memory of it is vague, but its all pretty easy and doable. Wayne Penrose has/is in process of doing a customer car too.

Notch65s Officially Full-On Dubber

309 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#496146
Hey does anyone have any pics of this mod? would it really be worth it for sucg little power increase or would i really notice the difference?

jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#496159
I'd like to this conversion on my notch when the 1600 dies.

I've looked into it a fair bit, and to fit the stock carbs and everything under a type 3 engine lid, you need the type 411/412 wagon intake manifolds, which are much shorter.
Hard to find, but i have a friend who has a pair sitting around that i'll buy when i do the conversion!