Type3 auto into an early Beetle

nbturbo · 2005-06-05T07:52:45+00:00

For those interested-I started this yesterday. Stripped everything from the pan yesterday afternoon and made a measuring jig to keep a check on the alignment of the frame horns during the work.I made a solid bar to take the place of the original bellhousing mounting bracket to keep the horns together and put braces up to the shock towers. Finished the IRS conversions today using some I cut from a Beetle pan.Will make up a jig next weekend to keep the lower engine mounting holes of the bellhousing in the correct position in relation to the frame horns.Will need this to locate the auto in the exact original position so the engine fits the engine bay correctly. I have taken plenty of pics so far and will put some up soon.

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while your there get a EH / HR sway bar and mount under there , pick ups for the rods of your arms , just close your eyes and think about itnn[ Edited on 7-8-2005 by seagull ]

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

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#394958

Had my eyes closed for a while-still don't see anything.Been a few years since I have done any work on one of those.Does it hook into the 2 holes in the lower shocker mount???

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I post a photo for you in the next day or so .

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Thanks.

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#398701

Come on Neil-pics please.

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How about the pics Neil?????

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Seagull Neil-what happened to the pics?????????nn[ Edited on 24-9-2005 by nbturbo ]

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shit I get on to it , sorry

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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 12 Jan 2006, 6:20 pm

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I'm following this thread with great interest, been wanting to do this conversion myself (into my manx) for years. I've got 4 automatic boxes etc sitting in my shipping container just waiting for me to get couragous and attack my floorpan. Was thinking of supporting the gearbox with a frame from on top.

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Sorry I forgot this in my first post, If you want to know how the trike buiders attack the problem check out http://www.dingbobtrikes.com/trikeframe_03SA_2.htm .Also I don't know if this the right site mentioned by nbturbo about autostickshift beetles but here it is anyway http://www.vwar.org/

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 12 Jan 2006, 10:22 pm

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Manx-if you do it like mine and it's in a buggy-you don't have the issue of trying to get the motor to fit properly in the engine bay so it seals up.You don't have to worry about the correct height either-just have to get it central.If you had a decent roll bar set up-you could fabricate something like Seagull does on his trikes and do away with the frame horns altogether.I wanted mine to look like a Factory set up from the outside as much as possible.Thanks for those links-they are good.Want to build a Trike one day with the motor up front like a normal bike-the blokes building the trikes will be very handy.There are a couple more pics in Members rides under Ovals progress.

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#447369

Here is a '57 Oval I've been trying to get for the past 12 months. Unfortunately no progress yet.

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as is

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this is the only real damage to the body apart from stone chips to the insides of the guards "star fracturing" the paint on the outsides

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sorry here's the photo

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The sunvisor and centre gauges in the dash were fitted by the dealer when purchased. There is also a hubcap style toolkit (unsighted).

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Sorry I'm have trouble with the size of my photos

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 29 Mar 2006, 2:04 pm

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Not much progress of late-got the body back on with motor and trans bolted up-everything fitted perfectly.Trans is in Adelaide at the moment getting overhauled and beefed up.Convertor has been modified and the front clutch hub is being machined for an extra plate.Will be another fortnight until finished.Doesn't look like I will be able to run an external cooler-the trans doesn't have any ports in the lubrication circuit to "T" off for a cooler.Have had all the new mounts,shock tower braces and dipstick tube coated in a gold passivated finish to look a bit flasher than being painted.

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69 posts · joined Mar 2005 · 11 May 2006, 2:59 pm

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Looks great

Any progress?
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2714cc no turbo, no gas, street bug (140Kw)

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 11 May 2006, 3:39 pm

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You must be Physic-going to Adeaide this weekend to pick the trans up-has had a full rebuild and some beef up mods done.Will get stuck into the refit next week.Still have to fit a kickdown switch and find a vacuum supply for the modulator.Will keep you posted.

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2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 21 Jun 2006, 7:31 pm

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At last-fired the motor today and have had the car move in both directions.still need to add a little more trans fluid.Got a small fuel leak issue at the "T" piece I made between the 2 carbies.Have to get a couple fittings in the morning and can then drive it.
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This is set up as a top mount , it can be fliped up side down .I be doing this to the 60ie bug

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This would be the cheapest mod to your bug to make it hold the road .The units from a hr holden front .Most modern cars have units fitted

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 27 Jun 2006, 11:56 am

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Thanks Neil-have already put that job on the 'to do' list-still have to round up a good one for the front.

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2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 27 Jun 2006, 9:08 pm

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Pulled the shifter assembly out again and pulled the lever out.When I put the lever into "Park",it was too far forward and a pain to to get at-so I applied some heat and bent it so that it now sits vertical in "park" and is real easy to use.Must be good steel,because it didn't tarnish with the heat,so just polished on the buff and it looks like chrome.
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I have a shift lock system you can make for this , works off the alarm

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3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Mar 2009, 2:12 pm

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How's this project going these days?

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 30 Mar 2009, 6:06 pm

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I have been driving it now for about 18 months.It's everything I hoped it would be.Had a lot of trouble with the fuel injection which took a couple of months to sort out.I put it on the road around September 07 and haven't had to repair,adjust,bend or modify anything.It has a slight weep from the auto pan gasket which is a cork type.I will make a new one from gasket material when I change the oil and check the band adjustments(probably won't need doing for at least 12 months) I have had it on the Drag Strip and changed gears manually.Had trouble working out when to change up just B4 it hit the rev limiter.Too busy to watch the Tacho.I am now definately going Auto in my Drag Car-I am in the middle of modifying it to fit a Kombi auto.Much better diff ratio than the Type 3 auto.

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For Dave-VW54.Good for a read.