tin that covers whole engine whats that about?

30 posts · joined May 2006 · 7 Jul 2006, 9:03 pm

#508859

I am a leaner dubbers so please bear with my ignorance. In the american hot vw's mag for engines by bernie borgmann that have a full cover of tin and fan based pulley, what's that about?

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4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 7 Jul 2006, 9:05 pm

#508861

its a porsche fan kit

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4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 7 Jul 2006, 9:06 pm

#508863

meetings 1st sunday of the month
check wbsite for location
All Welcome
http://www.flatfour.org/
and on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/FlatFour

shaderdash Casual Dubber

30 posts · joined May 2006 · 8 Jul 2006, 10:21 am

#508951

they put porsche tin covers on type 1 and type 4 motors because ? ? ?

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531 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 8 Jul 2006, 10:27 am

#508954

They cool better and look more flash than beetle tinware. Not cheap though. The looks bit is the only reason they are in his ads, the americans always warn against him on their forums for some reason

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,474 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 8 Jul 2006, 4:02 pm

#509012

SVW-054 wrote:They cool better and look more flash than beetle tinware. Not cheap though. The looks bit is the only reason they are in his ads, the americans always warn against him on their forums for some reason

actually they dont cool better straight off the shelf the need serious modification from the results ive seen. the dtm is the best one off the shelf for the t4 closely followed by the cali conversion.

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1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 8 Jul 2006, 6:17 pm

#509049

I rang Bergmann years ago did not like them at all found them to be a bit arrogant, the americans dont like him cause apparantly he stole the design of his 911 kit from a german type 4 business Klaus Kafer Tuning.

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620 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 8 Jul 2006, 6:28 pm

#509053

barls wrote:
SVW-054 wrote:They cool better and look more flash than beetle tinware. Not cheap though. The looks bit is the only reason they are in his ads, the americans always warn against him on their forums for some reason
actually they dont cool better straight off the shelf the need serious modification from the results ive seen. the dtm is the best one off the shelf for the t4 closely followed by the cali conversion.

If you go to Jake Raby's site, he has been experimenting with cooling of the air cooling to the VW engine for a number of years.

His figures show that while he was building a system to surpass all other types of cooling fan house systems, it took ages for him to improve on the STANDARD VW fan housing and tin wear..!!!!!

The Porsche style wasn't anywhere near the cooling efficiency of the Standard VW fan housing and tin wear on the flat 4 configeration.

It's a very interesting read.!

Mind you the Porsche style does look the goods!

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12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 8 Jul 2006, 7:01 pm

#509063

I think it also depends if you have a 5 blade or 11 blade fan.

Bernie Bergmann also uses a Golf alternator modified rather than the Porsche one

I know one 2.7 Type 4 that runs at 80C after an hour or 2 on the track

All depends what you do with the oil cooler as it obviously wont fit the stock position with the shroud.

And yes - they do look the part

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shaderdash Casual Dubber

30 posts · joined May 2006 · 8 Jul 2006, 8:22 pm

#509081

ah ha (not the band) thanks for the input, this little grass hopper is learning from the wise.