POBJOY ANTI SURGE SUMP EXTENSION.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 24 Jul 2006, 9:26 pm

#515038

Can someone who has one of these,
tell me how much extra oil these hold,
and how much do they hang down.
Also cost?

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 24 Jul 2006, 9:56 pm

#515063

should find the info in this thread Dave....

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=52896&page=1#pid496078

toplessbug Fahrvergnugen

879 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 24 Jul 2006, 10:18 pm

#515074

take the day off ,make a big flask of your fav drink,get really comfortable ,strap the phone to your ear and ring stan .he can answer all your q's:beer:beer:beer

Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 24 Jul 2006, 10:37 pm

#515086

Just measured mine; height from case base to lip of plate is 55mm (+/-5mm because it was a bit hard to reach in the rain!)

They hold another 400mL or so. Not sure of cost

Pay your debts, CxxT

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 25 Jul 2006, 6:35 am

#515120

Thankyou gentlemen, very pleased with your responses.
Just need a price....better put the kettle on...!

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 25 Jul 2006, 8:28 am

#515145

lol... ask to speak to Ruth

Pay your debts, CxxT

Craig Paton Wolfsburg Wizard

620 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 25 Jul 2006, 5:49 pm

#515322

Those sumps work great! Very well engineered as you will see.

Phone Stan from a payphone..!!!!!😂

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bus914 Custom Title Time!

1,230 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Jul 2006, 7:00 pm

#515361

Stan quoted me $220 inc GST and about $10 for postage. there was a wait as they were out of stock.

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Craig Paton Wolfsburg Wizard

620 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 27 Jul 2006, 6:23 pm

#516071

Hey Dave

Are you still looking into these?

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tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 27 Jul 2006, 7:54 pm

#516113

dangerous wrote:Thankyou gentlemen, very pleased with your responses.
Just need a price....better put the kettle on...!

Dave
This type of sump extension is standard clobber on every Formula Vee.
We are allowed to have up to 500Ml capacity.

Why dont you make your own for next to nothing. everyone else does. No brainer!
Stan wont like this but hey!

With a 3" metal holesaw, remove the sump plug and cut the guts of an old stock sump plate.
Wizz down to your friendly zorst shop and get a length of 3" zorst pipe.
Braze the 3" pipe length onto the now gutted sump plate. Retrieve the gutted bit of the sump plate, complete with the sump plug thread and braze that to the bottom of the zorst tube.
Grab a length of steel or copper tubing the same dia as the stock pickup tube.
You can either flare the end of this tubing or simply use an adapter sleeve. Plumbing shops carry these pre-soldered, just add heat until the solder oozes.
Solder/silver solder, braze/weld on an adapter sleeve to the original pickup tube and then add the length of copper tube to suit the depth of your extension.
I make mine a poofteenth short of the length as the extension but also cut the end off at about 45Deg.

Voila! One sump extension that takes about 2 hours to make and will cost you close to bugger all!
Bonus is you still have the original sump plug in there and its a simple matter of drilling the flange of the original plate and the plug to safety wire it to keep marauding scrutineers quiet!!

My second engine has a really trick, finned sump extension machined from a solid chunk of ally!
Looks trick but only does ther same job as my 2 bob steel item made from scrap bits.

Have fun
L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

beerdoc Insano Dub Head

838 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 27 Jul 2006, 8:12 pm

#516122

I just love simple ideas like that Tas

Can you put outlet on extension for Temp sender unit ?

Cheers Doc

reVOLKS at Fyansford Geelong
20th OCT 2007 STAY TUNED FOR DETAILS

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 27 Jul 2006, 8:31 pm

#516134

beerdoc wrote:I just love simple ideas like that Tas

Can you put outlet on extension for Temp sender unit ?

Yer sure M8, its a simple matter of welding a small nut to the side of the tube and the drill out and tap it for whastever size and thread your sender needs.

L8tr
E

Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

beerdoc Insano Dub Head

838 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 27 Jul 2006, 8:50 pm

#516149

Thought as much

Thanks Tas

:beer:beer

Couple of beers on me

Cheers Doc

reVOLKS at Fyansford Geelong
20th OCT 2007 STAY TUNED FOR DETAILS

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 27 Jul 2006, 9:22 pm

#516165

Craig Paton wrote:Hey Dave

Are you still looking into these?

Do you have one Craig or a deep sump?
If so what oil pump gears are you using.
I am just dreaming at the moment...there are alot of things stiring around in my head !!

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Craig Paton Wolfsburg Wizard

620 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 27 Jul 2006, 9:31 pm

#516167

Quote.
Do you have one Craig or a deep sump?
If so what oil pump gears are you using.
I am just dreaming at the moment...there are alot of things stiring around in my head !!

I've got a Pobjoy one. Can't remember what pump gears i've got! 30?

That was soo loonng ago!:duh

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 12 Aug 2006, 5:14 pm

#521589

They hold an extra 300ml and are 46mm thick.

[ Edited on 12-8-2006 by dangerous ]

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Craig Paton Wolfsburg Wizard

620 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 12 Aug 2006, 6:15 pm

#521609

would this be going on your streeter?

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Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 12 Aug 2006, 8:58 pm

#521662

You could do what Tas said but with Stans sump you run the stock screen, thats a bonus in my opinion plus Stans are an absolute work of art inside and out.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 13 Aug 2006, 8:04 am

#521746

Craig Paton wrote:would this be going on your streeter?

No, it has a deep sump.
I was looking for a little more capacity than 300ml, but didn't want to reduce my ground clearance by that much.
The oil is all in the rockercovers at the end of the run.
I could make something similar, but in a larger diameter, but
I think a dry sump is the answer.

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Craig Paton Wolfsburg Wizard

620 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 13 Aug 2006, 9:21 am

#521763

I had similar issues with mine as well.!

I also had problems when I was hooning around on the street.. Gettin a little sideways, it would drop oil pressure, my alarm went off and I sh&% myself.

Got the sump off Stan and all was good.!!

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tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 13 Aug 2006, 8:29 pm

#521983

Craig Paton wrote:I also had problems when I was hooning around on the street.. Gettin a little sideways, it would drop oil pressure, my alarm went off and I sh&% myself.

Hehehehehe then youd definitely shit yourself driving a F-Vee even with a 500ml sump extension.
The oil pressure stays below10psi for a fair percentage of a lap of Baskerville.

It doesnt seem to ever hurt the engines tho...............but that red light staying on for interminable lengths of time @ 6000RPM....eeeeyew!
After the first few meetings you end up ignoring thAT blasted red light................
L8tr
E

[ Edited on 13/8/06 by tassupervee ]

Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 13 Aug 2006, 9:34 pm

#522032

dangerous wrote:
Craig Paton wrote:would this be going on your streeter?
No, it has a deep sump.
I was looking for a little more capacity than 300ml, but didn't want to reduce my ground clearance by that much.
The oil is all in the rockercovers at the end of the run.
I could make something similar, but in a larger diameter, but
I think a dry sump is the answer.

Put restrictors in your pushrods or use an oil pump that won't suck your sump dry. Easy, knuckle-dragging V8 stuff...

Pay your debts, CxxT

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 13 Aug 2006, 10:04 pm

#522063

VWCOOL wrote:Put restrictors in your pushrods or use an oil pump that won't suck your sump dry. Easy, knuckle-dragging V8 stuff...

Done those things.

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 13 Aug 2006, 10:10 pm

#522069

return lines from the bottom of the rocker covers to the sump. one at the front of the cover one at the rear on each side.........that's what big brother (porsche) had to do......

http://www.clubvw.org.au/Inch%20by%20Inch.htm

hey Dave, you're one post off custom title!!!!!!!!!

[ Edited on 13-8-06 by dumone ]

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 14 Aug 2006, 6:53 pm

#522333

Thanks for the info Daimo,
I recall reading that back in the ninetys, I love stories like that.
Am going to test the car with some small mods,
and may do those drain pipes if the prob is still there.
The Pauter sump is not real simple to drain into with all its ribs and bolts,
but any thing is possible.
The yanks add a small stage to their wet sump pump, just to drain the covers.

[ Edited on 14-8-2006 by dangerous ]

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.