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boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 20 Aug 2006, 2:01 pm

#524544

I might have been wrong. I just thought 13b turbo makes too much capacity to weight. However is it the original weight of vehicle or weight at engineering? We all had to be 860kg on the day for 2 litre turbo.

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 20 Aug 2006, 2:36 pm

#524558

newoldmanx wrote:talk to your local mechanic orand 9/10 say vw's are boat anchors because they havent had much to do with them and therefore dont understand them the same goes for rotors because they are "unconventional" its a fact for a reason no-one in the top 10 quickest four cyl's run subie motors !!!and the 10th fastest rotor is still quicker than "world beating rigoli" as a matter of interest i run a ej20t sti in my dual cab but also have a 13bpp in a rx7

Sorry matey. I think you've misunderstood me. I think rotors are awesome. Really amazing engines. My comment about 2nd handies needing rebuilds was not meant to denigrate them at all. It's just that anyone I've ever talked to who bought one or owned one needed to have the motor rebuilt if it was a junkyard motor. Subarus just seem to be different is all.
Also my comments about subaru motors in rear wheel drive drag cars were just specualtion of what I could see happening at the drags. Everyone knows 4WD need a lot more power to be nearly as fast as a good rear drive car. But I do think if set up right subaru boxers could be competetive with the rotors. For no other reason than a proper build up. I also understand why people haven't used them in RWD cars up until now. There are very few small cars they would fit in because of their shape, and SR20s and the like are good to begin with. People just haven't seen the need to go to all the effort.

Boof, I think a well rounded comparison like you are proposing would be great. Surely SBS or similar would pick it up. It's just the sort of thing that would appeal to the car culture.
As part of it, you could find people who own/used to own oval window beetles and put in quick grabs describing their experiences. Could be all sorts of people from fogeys who owned them back in the day, to Alex Hozsl and his race/show car.

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newoldmanx Wolfsburg Wizard

468 posts · joined Aug 2006 · 20 Aug 2006, 7:51 pm

#524661

be awsome entertainment value even if no networks picked it up and it were made strictly for dvd i think the beetle is the second most sold car ever behind the corolla so plenty of potential

its just a car for f*%k sake

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 21 Aug 2006, 2:16 am

#524828

how about you guys come to perth so 13b turbo is in the picture..MAYBE even 20b (if your nuts). :vader

Anthony

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 21 Aug 2006, 9:10 am

#524854

13bt is not legal for a beetle in NSW. A 20bt is completely out of the question. And besides, it's not really a fair comparison then.

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THUDKNUCKLE Officially Full-On Dubber

224 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 25 Aug 2006, 9:35 am

#526497

I will have to agree with Pete wood on the topic of rotary's from a wreckers of junk yard. My conversion was such a case, bought a series 5 rx7 (non turbo) from the wreckers as being a good strong runner, bought it home completed the conversion only to find out that the warantty on the engine had expired and that the engines block was nothing more then a paper weight. The only usfull thing on the motor was the injection system ( minus computer) and the nuts and bolts that held the engine together. Even though the conversion eventually turnt out to be absolutly awsome with more punch one could poke a stick at be cautoius on what engine you chose and where you get it from ( IN my case a rotary conversion cost an arm and a leg due to the need for an engine rebuild.

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Just be carefull 🥷,, something dangerous is lurkin in My garage ready to burst out in a fit of Big Hp, high boost baja Rage .

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13BVW Seriously Crusin Dubber

151 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 25 Aug 2006, 3:30 pm

#526606

my manx has been rotary powered since 1989 i replaced the engine in 2001 with a wrecker special haven't had it rebuilt just flogged it it is a standard 13bt with microtec efi
made 216 rwhp and has run 11.80 @114mph on the 1/4 sixty ft 1.67 on street tyres
in the last 5 years its been tuned twice and had only regular maintenance. The only problem is gearboxs im on to my 4th.

13BVW 11.80@114mph

wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 25 Aug 2006, 8:17 pm

#526717

13BVW what have you had done to your transaxle, sounds like it's a whole lotta fun
and here is my entry, just need the sponsors to step up with the cash and we have ourselves a viable show.

54 oval

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malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 25 Aug 2006, 11:14 pm

#526771

heres mine and my engineer wouldpass a 13bt in it .
with weight its the orignal weight of the car.
the rigoli car was rear wheel drive
porsche box.a rotory would suit a vw box due tothe torque curve.

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newoldmanx Wolfsburg Wizard

468 posts · joined Aug 2006 · 25 Aug 2006, 11:46 pm

#526781

13BVW wrote:my manx has been rotary powered since 1989 i replaced the engine in 2001 with a wrecker special haven't had it rebuilt just flogged it it is a standard 13bt with microtec efi
made 216 rwhp and has run 11.80 @114mph on the 1/4 sixty ft 1.67 on street tyres
in the last 5 years its been tuned twice and had only regular maintenance. The only problem is gearboxs im on to my 4th.

hows it goin mate awsome buggy !!! do you go to rotormax ie doug rogers????this bloke knows his porting and was partly responsible for ypvs yamaha power valve system he maintains a lot of rally rotors???

its just a car for f*%k sake

THUDKNUCKLE Officially Full-On Dubber

224 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 26 Aug 2006, 10:37 pm

#527036

Check out by VW rotor page in site of the week forum i shows the porting and full rebuilding of the 13 b injected rotary in my baja ( i also use a microtach system and hand set ( Ltx-8s) cheers

Go the RoOR

Love is a Rotary baja bug
Just be carefull 🥷,, something dangerous is lurkin in My garage ready to burst out in a fit of Big Hp, high boost baja Rage .

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boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 2 Sep 2006, 7:46 am

#529282

I'll run and get a shot of my 54 ratchet strapped to my garage roof...

13BVW Seriously Crusin Dubber

151 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 22 Sep 2006, 1:49 pm

#536915

my rotor manx (13bt) will be at jamboree at willowbank this w'end 23rd and 24th
and if nothing breaks i will go for a drive to warrick

13BVW 11.80@114mph

rubyred Slammed & Awesome Dubber

77 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 23 Sep 2006, 1:46 am

#537103

I think the show "Overhaulin" would give you a hard time getting your show started with a name so similar.
Its a show in the states where they steal someones car, and overhaul it/ pimp it out.

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bugdv8 Commited Dubber

51 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 25 Sep 2006, 12:08 am

#537644

love it !! great stuff 🙂

1916 Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 25 Sep 2006, 8:14 am

#537683

yeah overhaulin is a great show. chip foose is the man in custom car builds.

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