subie conversion costing ?

malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 28 Aug 2006, 10:57 pm

#527730

has anyone done the full costing of putting a subie ej20t in a bug with a transaxle that can handle the torque.including cooling system wiring .
Thanks Malcolm.

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 28 Aug 2006, 11:38 pm

#527743

Sure ( this is my cost )

WRX motor $1500.00 c/w full loom ecu , cooling system
G50 gear box $3000.00
adapter plate & fly wheel & clutch $1000.00
you add in the small bits to make it fare

Let me know if your going this way as have some G50 & 6 wrx coming down

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malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 28 Aug 2006, 11:43 pm

#527745

seagull is that your own adapter plate

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 29 Aug 2006, 8:09 am

#527774

lots of custom bits and time to mount and install things like cooling system. $10K + if you pay someone else - but I thought you'd be able to guesstimate this yourself...?

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3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 · 29 Aug 2006, 11:05 am

#527800

I think matt, boof2332 said about $ 9000 with bug gear box,

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malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Aug 2006, 4:04 pm

#527840

vwcool why make and guess when there are 3 + people who have done this conversion on the forum and who might of come a cross some hidden cost or problems ,thats what a forum for to help each other share info,so have you done this conversion.

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 29 Aug 2006, 4:12 pm

#527843

neil...let me know about the g50s...price .etc

u2u me

Anthony

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 29 Aug 2006, 6:32 pm

#527892

malcolm wrote:vwcool why make and guess when there are 3 + people who have done this conversion on the forum and who might of come a cross some hidden cost or problems ,thats what a forum for to help each other share info,so have you done this conversion.

Yes

[ Edited on 29-8-2006 by VWCOOL ]

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 29 Aug 2006, 9:40 pm

#527995

Brad at Custom offroad has a price list on here somewhere, it was around the $9000 drive in drive out mark. This did not include any gearbox mods or brake upgrades.

So about:

$9000 for the conversion
$3000 for gearbox upgrades
$1000 for brake upgrades.

I have not done the conversion so it's best to talk to people like Custom Offroad, or Matt(Boof), they have costed the project out correctly.

Performance whether it air or water cooled always costs $$$$ :thumb

malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Aug 2006, 9:44 pm

#527996

always cost and getting harder to get it past the other half, especially when I,m building valve amps and custom speakers as well😵‍💫

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 29 Aug 2006, 9:45 pm

#527997

lol... aren't you doing a G50 conversion as well?

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malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Aug 2006, 9:48 pm

#528000

915 conversion bought the box off of my engineer $850might need a crown wheel

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 29 Aug 2006, 9:59 pm

#528010

Sweet... that's why I figured you might be able to figure out what's involved with chopping bodies and fitting radiators etc

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vwtyp2 Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,504 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 29 Aug 2006, 10:12 pm

#528022

you can buy my T25 with an ej20t for $7500

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555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 Aug 2006, 10:17 pm

#528026

I'm pretty anal when it comes to $$ as I don't make enough to piss it away. I have a reasonably complete spreadsheet of costs to get my project finished and at this stage the number is just shy of 30K. Keep in mind that this is a body off do it right build and I am very handy so most stuff is being done by me. I just don't think there are any shortcuts if you are silly enough to want a 250~500hp bug. I'm pretty sure though I could get an ej20T in a super in good nick for 5~6K but I would not be happy with the end result. Just my thoughts.

GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Aug 2006, 10:30 pm

#528038

Craig Torrens wrote:Brad at Custom offroad has a price list on here somewhere, it was around the $9000 drive in drive out mark. This did not include any gearbox mods or brake upgrades.

So about:

$9000 for the conversion
$3000 for gearbox upgrades
$1000 for brake upgrades.

I have not done the conversion so it's best to talk to people like Custom Offroad, or Matt(Boof), they have costed the project out correctly.

Performance whether it air or water cooled always costs $$$$ :thumb

Remember those costs are for NA, there is more f#cking around with the turbo and many more little bits and pieces. I have not done my total costs but its under 10k. I think with wise buying I could complete for 5-6k easy.

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malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Aug 2006, 10:33 pm

#528040

555 hows your bug coming along hows the shifter going ,I,m looking at this 1 due to what a second hand porsche shifter cost plus the short shift kits $400to $900.http://www.cae-racing.de/
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malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Aug 2006, 10:36 pm

#528042

http://www.cae-racing.de/
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about $880 landed

newoldmanx Wolfsburg Wizard

468 posts · joined Aug 2006 · 30 Aug 2006, 2:56 pm

#528221

vwtyp2 wrote:you can buy my T25 with an ej20t for $7500

nice!!!! buy this remove engine bolt outbolt in sell bus 3-4your well ahead

its just a car for f*%k sake

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 30 Aug 2006, 3:20 pm

#528229

i think all up i have spent about 9-10k so far on my ej20t 71super project.

still a lot to do.

Anthony

gull Wolfsburg Wizard

446 posts · joined Jun 2005 · 30 Aug 2006, 3:40 pm

#528238

I need your brake pads Anthony .drop them off so I can make a start , neil

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2,565 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 30 Aug 2006, 3:47 pm

#528241

Everything ive gotten so far i own!

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71EJVan Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 30 Aug 2006, 4:13 pm

#528253

My 71 Bay EJ20T Panel.

EJ20T, loom, ECU: 2000
Exhaust: 300
Fuel pumps/hoses: 350
Brakes: 1000
Adaptor: 600
Clutch: 300
Radiator and bits: 500
091 box: 400
Steel for xmember: 200
Bloody hose clamps: lots

I'd say $6500 with me doing all design and fabrication.

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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Aug 2006, 5:20 pm

#528276

Here is my V6 conversion cost which may be of some interest. I did almost everything myself and did it on the cheap side. I used as much as possible from the front cut.

Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
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gull Wolfsburg Wizard

446 posts · joined Jun 2005 · 30 Aug 2006, 5:43 pm

#528284

ASh :P:thumb

THUDKNUCKLE Officially Full-On Dubber

224 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 30 Aug 2006, 6:06 pm

#528300

Water conversions arent cheap,,, it may not be a subi conversion but my rotary baja engine conversion has recepts just over 10k ,, take in to acount that my car and engine never saw another work shop other then my home garage and all work and fab was undertaken by myself ( minus adaptor plate and flywheel)..

Might help a bit when considering a water cooled conversion price, however the non stop smile when it is all finished and finally runs is all worth it.

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555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Aug 2006, 7:09 pm

#528318

Malcolm, the shifter works on the bench but there is not a lot of room in the tunnel once you have coolant, hydraulic, fuel, and wiring in there. Options wise I am looking at relocating the hand brake to the side of the tunnel and building a bit of a bulge to fit the mechanism in. The next cost is getting the cable length sorted but I guy I know with a gt40 can do them for sane money. Hopefully the pan will be completed by the end of the year and to be honest that's the biggest issue with my build as all the rest is pretty straightforward.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Aug 2006, 7:25 pm

#528323

I guess you can see the variation in pricing here. Your getting prices at the low end like me, being $3500 for engine conversion and rear disc brakes (even less after I sold the VW motor), to $9000 drive in drive out at a workshop, to $10000 for thudknuckle when doing it all himself.

Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
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malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 30 Aug 2006, 9:14 pm

#528356

thanks for all the replys.if I go ahead with the subie conversion in Victoria I have to have a torsion test done similar to kit cars ie clubman 7,s ,cobras. This is because of the suspension mods I,m doing but these will allow me to run the wheel size and track I want legally also porsche 915 gearbox & ej20t would add 50kg,s + out the back.If I go the the orignal motor a turbo type4 I don,t need to have the torsion test done so I,m in a bit of a dilema.
so thanks again for the replys.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 30 Aug 2006, 10:19 pm

#528393

turbo type4:blush