WPVW turbo oval progress - 443bhp (10.13@139.70mph)

hypo-vw · 2005-03-19T08:00:02+00:00

with the compak attak drag meeting postponed until the 9th April , this gives us around 3 weeks to have the oval ready . the pics posted are about a week ago , so there has been further progress . It may be a big ask , but we a hoping to run high 10's and 130mph with this fully engineered and street regeristed bug . will keep you informed when up and running !!:jesus [ Edited on 14-1-07 by hypo-vw ] [ Edited on 21-2-07 by hypo-vw ]

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 25 Sep 2006, 11:45 pm

#538026

Great to hear how it went.

Would love to see video footage of it in action.

Have footage of you in the blue car which is cool too.

Shame I'm not going to be at Warrick to witness the cool lineup, including this wicked 54.

Reub

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 25 Sep 2006, 11:57 pm

#538031

reub-revhead wrote:Would love to see video footage of it in action.

I have borrowed a digital video camera to take to Warrick and my son ( Dean ) will be taking a heap of footage so that we can put together a short movie . If it turns out OK , will let you know .

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 26 Sep 2006, 12:17 am

#538036

hypo-vw wrote:I have borrowed a digital video camera to take to Warrick and my son ( Dean ) will be taking a heap of footage so that we can put together a short movie . If it turns out OK , will let you know .

Cheers Wayne. Look forward to it.
I'll be posting video footage of VWRX at the drags soon to share as well....

Reub

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 26 Sep 2006, 1:20 am

#538049

Crazy looks and crazy performance.. what are your airfuel ratios under boost...lots of contention between running a bit rich to compensate for the possibility of lean out under high boost..of course crisp throttle responce sometimes then lost.

What other supports did you use for rear apron?, I have one the same, although pondering attatchment and support for bumpers.

Car looks awesome.

matt

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 26 Sep 2006, 8:40 am

#538096

Looks great Wayne,
look forward to catching up.

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 26 Sep 2006, 9:49 pm

#538378

well today the oval hit the dyno at SOUTH COAST ROTARY PERFORMANCE & DYNO-TUNE . Many thanks to Kevin for his expertise in Microtec engine management systems and getting the tune on the oval to a massive 320.6 bhp @ 5600rpm on 14psi boost .
This far exceeded my expectations , as I thought that I would have to put more boost in , to get this sort of power . Kevin was also able to find additional fuel and had to lean the engine off to an air/fuel ratio of 11.8:1 on full throttle . In doing this he explored the map in my ECU and found that I have enough fuel in it to run 18psi boost without changing injectors .
We tried to screw the boost up a little but the wastegate is currently fitted with a spring that would not allow additional boost . So I have decided to leave the boost at 14psi for Warrick , because I honestly feel that I am going to have enough traction problems with the oval running 320 @ the wheels on M&H street tyres .

pic 1- the oval sits in the rollers at SOUTH COAST ROTARY PERFORMANCE AND DYNO-TUNE
pic 2- Kevins laptop and air/fuel meter plugged into the oval
pic 3- the heat got too much for this strap . The exhaust is wrapped in heat-wrap , was then covered in a heat insulated blanket and then strapped . The exhaust heat not only melted the strap but also melted a hole in the heat blanket . To make things worse , we melted 3 straps this morning and the oval nearly lept out of the rollers .SCARY STUFF !!

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Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 26 Sep 2006, 9:50 pm

#538379

pete wood wrote:When do you sleep?

tonight and tomorrow night , then off to Warrick .

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

pyr0 flame-on

4,457 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 26 Sep 2006, 10:06 pm

#538390

thats freakin awesome 😵‍💫

Founding member of the C'town Rat-Pack

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 26 Sep 2006, 10:18 pm

#538400

Awesome stuff Wayne

looking forward to watching you run at Warrick

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 26 Sep 2006, 10:30 pm

#538411

That's bloody fantastic Wayne.........CONGRATS.

1916 Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 27 Sep 2006, 3:20 am

#538474

thats awseome....

if you do not already have a cage i get the feeling you will NEED one after your trip to the dragstrip..as if you hit 10's its a requirement or you cant come back right?

also, did you consider getting some ahh..somewhat supportive seats?

"what kinda creator would make a race of people
and make em act a certain way or else He deems 'em evil?
HOW can You give a living being the freedom to breathe
and then lead em into a sea of decievers who greet em, see!"

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 7:55 am

#538490

1916 wrote:thats awseome....

if you do not already have a cage i get the feeling you will NEED one after your trip to the dragstrip..as if you hit 10's its a requirement or you cant come back right?

also, did you consider getting some ahh..somewhat supportive seats?

Yeh you are right . I am only going to get 1 crack at a run down the 1/4 strip in the 10's with the oval before they send me home to get a cage , seat , harness , and full tech inspection .
I don't have any plans to do this to the oval as it is a street car and should be used as such .Only have to put it back on Premium ULP to run it on the street , everything else complies with NSW RTA .
And what do you mean supportive seats ? Under acceleration the original lowback uprights squeeze into my ribs as I am passing through the back of the seat , and they hold me in tight !! Only need better runners on the floor and a stronger steering wheel to hang on . LOL :P

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

063bug

0 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 27 Sep 2006, 8:29 am

#538502

Holy S#!t.... those figures are awesome.... looking forward to seeing your car on the weekend

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 27 Sep 2006, 9:28 am

#538512

That's great Wayne!

Is that the same Dyno as last time?..thats over 100hp better!

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 9:43 am

#538517

only 14psi and 320hp!!! that's amazing! :duh
What sort of torque is it producing?

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

VWFREAK VWFREAK

2,577 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 10:03 am

#538524

Your the man Wayne, well done mate. I can't wait to hear how she's went.

Good Luck

Peter

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 27 Sep 2006, 10:43 am

#538538

Top stuff WP.... You've out done yourself..... Hope to see some top video of this puppy doing its thing.... Just get nice and close Dean..... We want to see Wayne's eyes light up when he drops the hammer!

FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 27 Sep 2006, 5:54 pm

#538679

Wayne-Have got a massive exhaust heat problem with the Type4 in my Oval-after about 5 minutes running,the rear panel gets that hot,you cannot touch it and I am surprised it hasn't burnt the paint.I found this stuff by accident-it's about 25mm thick and is used here at the Steel Works for insulation somewhere in the system. Bloke I got it from lit an oxy cutting torch and held it close to one side and had his hand on the other-absolutely no heat transfer.I made a thin stainless shield to sit about 15mm off the muffler and squeezed this stuff in between then tacked the shield.Rear panel is now stone cold behind the muffler-but still some heat from the pipes going in-will ju
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[ Edited on 27-9-2006 by nbturbo ]

speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Sep 2006, 7:05 pm

#538701

That looks like Fiberfrax. That'll do it.....I've used it as thin as 6mm with great results.

[ Edited on 27-9-2006 by speedster356 ]

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Flintstones Custom Title Time!

1,077 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Sep 2006, 8:26 pm

#538746

That's sensational Wayne.👍

Can you post the dyno sheet? I'm sure we'd all love to see the graph!!

Cheers

1916 Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 27 Sep 2006, 8:42 pm

#538759

what fuel are you running then wayne? not pump fuel for that power?

"what kinda creator would make a race of people
and make em act a certain way or else He deems 'em evil?
HOW can You give a living being the freedom to breathe
and then lead em into a sea of decievers who greet em, see!"

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 27 Sep 2006, 9:10 pm

#538767

nbturbo wrote:Wayne-Have got a massive exhaust heat problem with the Type4 in my Oval-after about 5 minutes running,the rear panel gets that hot,you cannot touch it and I am surprised it hasn't burnt the paint.I found this stuff by accident-it's about 25mm thick and is used here at the Steel Works for insulation somewhere in the system. Bloke I got it from lit an oxy cutting torch and held it close to one side and had his hand on the other-absolutely no heat transfer.I made a thin stainless shield to sit about 15mm off the muffler and squeezed this stuff in between then tacked the shield.Rear panel is now stone cold behind the muffler-but still some heat from the pipes going in-will ju
[/URL] [/img]st make a small deflector for each side.

[ Edited on 27-9-2006 by nbturbo ]

speedster356 wrote:That looks like Fiberfrax. That'll do it.....I've used it as thin as 6mm with great results.

[ Edited on 27-9-2006 by speedster356 ]

Thats Fibrefrax for sure... I used to build temporary commercial kilns years ago for heat treatment and thats the gear we used for lining the kiln.... Great stuff.... Just wear gloves and resporator when you handle that stuff....

FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

1916 Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 27 Sep 2006, 11:18 pm

#538808

what gearbox do you run wayne?

"what kinda creator would make a race of people
and make em act a certain way or else He deems 'em evil?
HOW can You give a living being the freedom to breathe
and then lead em into a sea of decievers who greet em, see!"

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 11:36 pm

#538815

boof2332 wrote:What other supports did you use for rear apron?, I have one the same, although pondering attatchment and support for bumpers.

No additional supports were manufactured for the rear apron , just cut in a 'Z' pattern and strengthening plates at cut section only .
My bumper brackets are aluminum and the bumpers are fibreglass , so they look original but very lite .

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 11:41 pm

#538818

dangerous wrote:That's great Wayne!

Is that the same Dyno as last time?..thats over 100hp better!

Thanks Dave , the dyno is the same brand but at a different workshop . The first time that I had it dynoed it was at SOUTH COAST 4WD as Kevins dyno was out of action . This time it was at SOUTH COAST ROTARY PERFORMANCE AND DYNO-TUNE , where I have always had my cars dynoed .
See ya in a couple of days Dave .

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 11:44 pm

#538819

pete wood wrote:only 14psi and 320hp!!! that's amazing! :duh
What sort of torque is it producing?

When the engine was dynoed last time it produced 900lbs of tractive effort and this time a massive 1260lbs .

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 11:48 pm

#538823

Flintstones wrote:That's sensational Wayne.👍

Can you post the dyno sheet? I'm sure we'd all love to see the graph!!

Cheers

after Warrick I will tell my computer guy to reinstall my scanner programme after it was left out during the last update and repairs . Will post dyno sheet ASAP and as you will see the power was still sky-rocketing when Kevin backed off .The more that he revs the engine , the more power it makes .

[ Edited on 27-9-06 by hypo-vw ]

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 11:50 pm

#538824

1916 wrote:what fuel are you running then wayne? not pump fuel for that power?

The oval is running c-16 racing fuel / 117 octane rating .

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Sep 2006, 11:58 pm

#538826

1916 wrote:what gearbox do you run wayne?

I run a swing axle transmission with -
rhino housing
3.88 ring and pinion
Berg h/duty pinion bearing retainer
Albins gear sets with splined hubs 4.11/2.21/1.44/1.04
steel shift forks
ZF limited slip diff
H/duty alloy side plates
Berg chromemoly axles
Berg side plate strengtheners
Berg style solid front mounting
solid rear mounting with bellhousing strap

should be a pretty tough box , and it will need to be !!

[ Edited on 20-12-06 by hypo-vw ]

[ Edited on 2-1-07 by hypo-vw ]

Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

1916 Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 28 Sep 2006, 1:28 am

#538846

c16 race fuel!!!..geeez PUMP THAT BOOST UP. HAHAH

yeah one would hope so wayne. your engine is a monster.

"what kinda creator would make a race of people
and make em act a certain way or else He deems 'em evil?
HOW can You give a living being the freedom to breathe
and then lead em into a sea of decievers who greet em, see!"