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amazeer Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,029 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#590998
Just lately I have noticed heaps of P platers in fast cars. Mostly WRX's and EVO's but a few standard v8 commodores, then today I saw a genuine looking GTHO with a green p plate in the back window. Did that law never make it into existance or are these guys just running the gauntlet.

baybuscamperkid prince of insufficient light, ruler of heck

4,316 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#591000
the laws are there, in vic it is a power/weight ratio, in NSW there is a blacklist of cars that p-platers cant drive, but from what i understand theres alot of cars missing from the list and it is pretty easy to circumnavigave as you can get exemptions if you bought the car before the rules came about, if it is the only car in the household, etc.
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bat69 There is no status

791 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#591002
There are various restrictions placed on P plate drivers for performance cars. The thing is some P plate drivers are not effected by the laws due to them (the new laws) coming in after some drivers obtained their P plates. So to answer your questions, there are some P plate drivers (green p) who can legally drive turbo cars and the like. It also possible for some drivers to make application in writing to get approval to drive a hi performance car. But the approval is only on a limited basis. I hope that helps.
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zac_smits Coolest Person Ever!

3,634 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#591043
i saw a p-plater driving a chrysler 300c tonight,

and there's a p-plater at uni (girl) with a bmw z4

and also another girl with a porsche cayenne turbo (the v10 with quad pipes)
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liltimmy1300 Commited Dubber

70 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#591046
I know that the Queensland laws dont come into play sometime later this year...Thank goodness..LOL

Opaque Seriously Crusin Dubber

194 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#591173
zac_smits wrote:i saw a p-plater driving a chrysler 300c tonight,

and there's a p-plater at uni (girl) with a bmw z4

and also another girl with a porsche cayenne turbo (the v10 with quad pipes)
well, the rich are exempted from all laws anyways, they're not people.

From what I gather from working at a jap import sports cars showroom/workshop, P platers in vic from july sometime cannot:

Drive cars over the already in place 125kw/ton law, along with no 8s or turbos, cars with 3000cc or bigger displacement. P platers that got their licence after 2005 i think have to abide by these laws.

Curfew of like 10 or 11 pm has been approved and set to be put in place some time in the future

also passenger restrictions

I heard all of this through the typical import scene grapevines, but yeh its gotta suck for us P platers. It's good business for us because we heard wind of the new laws and stocked up on n/a skylines and they've been selling like hotcakes, but it both sucks and blows.
Personally the cops won't be able to enforce the laws sufficently. If they can't even enforce the 125/per ton law, how are they guna do it with a couple extra boxes to tick?

Anyways, I think us VW owners are more of a threat on the road than a 3 litre sedan or even an import for that matter, with eskies dropping and axles scrapping and whatnot.
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ColumBUS Hail To The Bus Driver!

3,601 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#591188
the kaws are made to be broekn dude,,, and thats what the younhsters do,,, break stuff!

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baybuscamperkid prince of insufficient light, ruler of heck

4,316 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#591214
damn glad i got off mine on friday!
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aussiebaja Insano Dub Head

738 posts · joined Jun 2006 ·

#591244
the police might not stop it but when you go for pink slip or pay for rego the rta might stop you from paying for rego
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amazeer Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,029 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#591298
might start to get tougher... did a p plater in a WRX write himself off on M4 today?

Opaque Seriously Crusin Dubber

194 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#591310
My opinion is with all the money theyre going to use to establish and enforce these laws they could have done more effective methods like educating the kids better all and that jazz. while i was in high school (last year), we had basically no education on driving in the classroom but "Tokyo Drift" on a mates laptop.
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Spook Driving the 64 wheeler

1,168 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#591331
It was a knee jerk reaction to a problem that was 98% media beat up. It wasn't that P platers were dropping like flies, it was just all you heard about, even the ones that the P plater wasn't at fault.
They did the same thing with trucks years ago.

This idea that it has something to do with high performance cars is bullshit, because there really isn't any low performance cars anymore.

With very few exceptions, everything built over the last 5 or 10 years goes like a shower of shit.
Bikes are the same. When I was a boy, you learned on a sedate 250. Same law still applies but the modern 250 is nothing short of a projectile.

True story: A bloke I used to work with, the kind of fool that should never have been allowed near a car, lost his HT at Speers Point. Landed upside down in Lake Maquarie, killed him & the three blokes with him. That was 1980.

The moral of the story is, nothing changes.

A dickhead being a dickhead will get his clock cleaned eventually, it's inevitable.
Laws wont prevent it, & the type of car wont matter.

Best you can do is hope your nowhere near it at the time.
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2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#591332
p-plates also dont make much of a difference. How many of the fatalities involve stolen cars?
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Opaque Seriously Crusin Dubber

194 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#591356
defects, Hoon laws, huge p plate restrictions.

All i wanted from you guys was to protect and serve.
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ColumBUS Hail To The Bus Driver!

3,601 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#591383
they cant make money off giving kids an education, duh!

the laws are there, but only new P platers and people who have had their license disqualified cannot drive the high powered cars

Sioux Seriously Crusin Dubber

178 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#591528
my senior english class looked at the statistics etc last year for an assignment. and statistically drivers of the age bracket 60-70 cause more accidents than P platers. And P platers involved in accidents are more likely to Not at fault.


but in all reality, the only P plater rule coming into QLD that will effect me as a new P plater after 1st july will be having to show a P plate. my wee beetle wont be seeing a turbo or supercharger any time soon, and my back seats are making way for a sound system. so the passenger capacity law wont effect me either.