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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#506439
Finished everythng in the engine bay(except for chucking away the Webers and fitting the injection)It runs like a bag of shit when cold-but comes to life when it's been running for a couple of minutes.I have tried everything I can think of to make it run smooth when I start it.Been out in the lane along side of my place-Geezus it feels like a rocket.I will have to get used to the auto-with the modified convertor,it seems to be sluggish when I pull away-then it seems to take up and all hell breaks loose.Will get on top of it once I can drive it on the street.
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[ Edited on 29-6-2006 by nbturbo ]

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#506479
Very nice work!

I have to stop looking at this stuff....getting too many ideas for my Oval. :P
Reub

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#506913
Made this to go over the hole to clear the front of the auto.Will use some Nutserts to hold it in place.Will need to tidy up the welds a bit.Can cut and shut the seats now to clear this panel.
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[ Edited on 1-7-2006 by nbturbo ]

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#506984
Yes-I registered it for 3 months back in February to make sure everything would be OK.Just need to redo it when I have it finished.I have all my old cars on "seasonal rego"-which means if they are expired for more than 90 days-don't have to go thru all the bullshit and pay a reinstatement fee.Oh,and cheese is not healthy according to my wife-but I still love it.

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#550483
A bit of progress-finished all the carpet-ended up doing it all myself.Cut everything out then had it edged same as done for house carpet squares-used a black thread with a siver fleck-turned out really good.A big help was getting some spray glue from a trimmer and used an old spare spray gun I had-saved heaps of time and made the job real easy.Finally decided on how I am doing the belt line seals for the 1 piece windows.Tried heaps of different shape rubbers-settled on using original outer rubbers.Drilled out the rivets from the new kits and used both side rubbers on the 1 door-just glued them straight to the door.So used the LH one on the front part of the right door-cut the length to fit,turned around and joined them with some O ring glue.Have ordered another complete set to do the other door.Just used what came with the kit for the inner scraper.Made up a stainless piece for the outer door edge.These used to available in the early days for an armrest when we were allowed to drive with an arm out the window.Needed a bit more shiny now the original stainless mouldings can't be used.Made up front and rear parcel trays from MDF and trimmed for somewhere to mount the speakers.A while back I stripped out all the original seats and borrowed a glass bead cabinet and did all the frames,then painted everything in satin black.Thay have been in Adelaide for a while now getting the black leather treatment.He is pretty slow but does the best work-will be ready mid November.

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#550497
Rear tray done same as headlining-front one is black like carpet-too dark for pic

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#561616
One of the stainless arm rest and my wooden wedges to hold the belt line rubber while glue dries.
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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#584086
Seats are finally finished for it-will try to get to Adelaide next week to pick them up.I bought another set of throttle bodies and they arrived today-will get started tonight fitting it all.

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#585022
Progressing with injection-pulled out all the fuel lines for the Webers and had to make new throttle rods.They supplied some extruded aluminium for the fuel rails,but I cannot find anything to screw into the ends for the barbed fittings to screw into.Had to machine up some aluminium plugs to fit tight in the holes and weld them in.Got one side done-beautiful-even drilled and threaded one end so I can screw in a guage if I need to check fuel pressure.Buggered up the other one-tried to weld on some 10mm flat for the pressure regulator to screw into.Will cut it off and try again.Drilled and threaded one T/B below the butterfly for the air temp sensor to screw into(9/16 UNF)Have got to find a place for the water temp sensor yet.Will be using this dizzy-it's from a 244 Volvo and I've machined it down and fitted the VW drive tang-takes the same cap as a 009,even looks like one.May go with a crank angle sensor down the track.

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kroozzn63 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,005 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#585061
oooooooooooo they look nice
show us your gates

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#588063
still fitting stuff for the injection-took a break and started fiting the seats.Had to put the fronts back together and fit the hold back rubber for the rear seat.Had to modify the rear parcel tray/speaker panel.The spots on the seats are the perforations in the leather-must have been caught by the flash.

[ Edited on 29-4-2007 by nbturbo ]

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#593593
Was planning on having the motor going with the injection on today-best laid plans????? The engine bay is all finished though-everything where it's meant to be.Have mounted the ECU under the back seat,but want the relay's to be tidy,so will get 3 of those plastic terminal holders tomorrow and then the relay's just plug into them.Having some trouble trying to find air cleaners for the T/Bodies.Injection Perfection reckon they used to sell them,but are unable to do so anymore.Pisses me off that they can sell the T/B's,but can't supply a fairly important part of the system.They claim that the T/B's are a direct replacement for the Webers and the cleaners should fit-but they go nowhere near fitting.May have to make some top and bottom plates from aluminium that take a common filter.

[ Edited on 27-5-2007 by nbturbo ]

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Dasdubber DAS Resto Haus

5,746 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#593617
Looking really nice Gary - it would be awesome to leave the TB velocity stacks exposed (looks cool) but I can see why you want to track down the filters. :thumb
Alan
www.dasrestoparts.com.au

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#605649
I can't believe how long this car has taken to get to this stage.Have been fairly short on time to devote to it lately-but progressing with the injection.Trying to get everything close to set up the ECU has been a bit of a headache.Started of with 20.5 lbs/hr injectors and almost no manifold vacuum for the MAP-so couldn't get it lean enough to be any good.I made a small ally manifold and threaded it for the 4 vacuum hoses and one outlet for the MAP and fuel reg.I fitted 4 one way check valves and now have a good/constant vacuum reading at idle.I will mount it under the car out of sight if it all works OK and just run the 4 small hoses out of the engine bay to it.I also changed the injectors to 18.25 lbs/hr and it runs really good thru the whole range and now idles and starts good.I am taking it tomorrow to have the ECU rechipped-so hoping it all goes OK.If he can't get it right,I will then get a Haltec and a laptop and have a go at it myself.Made some new air filter bases from some 6mm ally and used my original Weber filters and tops.I had to offset the bases 4mm so they would clear the fuel rails.

[ Edited on 7-8-2007 by nbturbo ]

[ Edited on 7-8-2007 by nbturbo ]

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reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#605700
That engine bay looks sensational....:thumb
Reub

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#605729
No return lines? I was oing to do it this way but warned off it. It is meant to be great if you are constantly on it but a bit of a pig just idling around. Also the fuel gets hot. Let me know how you go.
T54
C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#605782
I have return lines-it's a normal supply/return system with a regulator.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#608660
Gary hows the project going

Have you sorted the auto out
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#608743
Great effort!!

If no one sells it just make it...!
It's the persistence despite the constant adversity that makes it a memorable challenge.
I'm sure I won't be that philisophical when nothing has been going right mind you...

Appreciate the photos and detail.

vassy

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#608917
There isn't too much about this project that I will ever forget.It's been a full on learning experience.I can now TIG weld aluminium and stainless,do some basic machining on a lathe,basic machining on a milling machine,made all the carpets and door trims and helped with the final headlining to go in and did about 90% of all the mechanicals,all of the elecrical and body assembly.Bonus is that I now have some good machinery that I may have never thought of buying(good lathe,milling machine,TIG welder,MIG welder and a 2 post car hoist) I don't think I would ever do one again with the detail I have put into this one.Might be a different story 12 months down the track.The auto was never a problem-have only driven it once-but it worked OK-did everything it is supposed to do.Still having issues with the injection-trying to get the fuel maps right thru the whole rev range.Have tried 2 different ECU's,Haltech and Kalmaker-runs best on the Kalmaker

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#608921
Have you thought about a single throttle body

I think you will find a big difference

We had quads on the drag car and could never get the tune right too many mechanical variations

How come you have only driven it once ???
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#615366
I am finally driving it and it's awesome.Pissed around with the Delco(Kalmaker) for 2 days with no joy,so bought a Haltec and spent 8 hours with that and still no go.Just managed to burn out Auto starters like there was no tomorrow.They are a bit weak in design-the front bush is only 9mm wide and fairly thin and I managed to flog out 3 different starters during this ordeal.I ordered a High Torque starter from CIP1 in the US and it arrived in 6 days(unreal service from these people each time I use them).I had to modify the shock tower bar I made because it was too close to the main terminal.All fitted and it's all good now.Any how I gave up(My knowledge of how this is done is now a big 0)and took the car to Adeaide to a Haltec agent.He had it for a week and got it running like a dream.I learnt a valuable lesson here-save the heartache right from the start and use an expert.The injectors are on their limit,but the motor makes no more power after 6200 because of the crappy muffler and really mild cam,so they will be fine.I have since changed the exhaust to a set of extractors I made some years back and managed to squeeze a muffler behind the drivers rear wheel-it's a little loud at idle but sweet when pushed.I will have to run the motor in a bit,but does it get up and go and the auto is awesome-gear shifts are really tight.Just have a few finishing touches to do- front and rear wheel alignments,fit some inertia reel belts,finish fitting the seats,get some whitewalls done and have it booked in end of October to get any paint blemishes fixed from the respray.

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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#615376
Good to hear the auto is working well, I really wanted to know it could handle to extra power. Did you have any trouble getting a good manifold vacuum signal for the modulator valve?
Quote of the week
"Do I wish to send them to you again, nope, no interest can't be bothered really, to much hassle for little or no return."

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#615441
yes and no-had no signal of any value at first-so fitted 4 plastic elbows(4mm) to each manifold,threaded one end on each,screwed in a small plastic screw to each one and cut it off flush.Then drilled each one with a 20thou hole and connected them all to a T piece and then to the modulator and the fuel pressure reg.Have a good stable 12 to 14 at idle and it's all working OK.

debiasi4 Officially Full-On Dubber

283 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#615613
good to see you happyand behind the wheel pity i missed you at work the other day i am looking forward to going for a ride
i guess you will have it down for the show in november see you then
adam

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#615640
If it wasn't for you blokes,I would still be dreaming about driving it.Thanks for putting me onto Brian-nothing more to say.

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#615986
Am going to try this for an extra oil cooler.Machined the ally mounting bracket to take a Type4 cooler and OG seals.I have a sandwich plate with thermostat to go under the filter and this will mount on the LH side on the Bus rear traction bar I have fitted.Hoses will only be 400mm long.I have a heater assist fan from a Bus-I have cut one outlet off and blocked it and will mount it up under the LH side alongside the trans.Will mount it on the rear shock tower brace.Made an ally cover to go over the oil cooler with a snorkle the same size as the fan,and use some flexi hose to join them.The fan will be switched from the Haltec ECU.

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Flintstones Custom Title Time!

1,077 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#616067
NBT, why didn't you hook up both the outlets from the fan to the cooler?
That setup won't be too effective as the air is only going to pass through the bottom half of the cooler if you know what I mean.

The Oval is looking good by the way.
Cheers

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#616070
With the other outlet still there-it is just too big to fit in there.I hooked it up to a battery on the bench with the hose in place-don't think there will be any trouble with it working-there is a massive amount of air passing thru the cooler.