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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#652386
Considering cuting and turning, cause i will be pulling the front beam apart to replace the bushes, likewise for the rear of my pan.

However, by doing so, do i need engineering certs for modding the original engineers suspension intentions?
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#652389
Technically, yes, due to the welding, but just don't tell anyone...!
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phatratpat Fahrvergnugen

958 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#652390
shhhhhh! its a secret !!!😁

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#652401
I think you'll find that its illegal to weld steering & suspension components in QLD....having said that, most people wouldnt know its not original
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#652402
thanks guys, will rebush the thing but won't reweld it...

Then after compliancing and registering, i might consider. I am not sure about adjusters though, cause the ones i have seen have been particularly designed for street and not an offroad beating....

but your right, how is anyone going to know afterwards.

Thankyou fellas!👍
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#652852
I believe the "illegality" lies in cutting through the beam

Depending on the engineer it may be ok if the cut/weld is braced with plates welded over the cut
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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#652853
your in qld you can do it.

A beam is not a suspension component by definition so it is not an issue.

If anyone tells you anything else ask them for a reference, they will not have one.

Facts finished now back to comments and suggestions
Brad
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#652855
Cheers mate. Yea u would think the engineer would feel more comfortable. I wouldn't trust my welding that much to go any other way in all honesty.

Jeff Hibbard's book doesn't explain about brace plating, but another link i found said it was a pretty wise idea (some pretty good, more detailed instructions of how to do it).
I think i will get myself out of alot of trouble if i do it after i get it regoed anyways...

I just can't stand the stance of a stock height baja. No offence to anyone, but its ugly. I'm keen to unleash the beast look 'so to speak', + my front end is fairly soft.

I have been looking hard into it, and i will just seam weld the beam for the time being.
Later on i will turn it, and sort out some rebound stops for the ball joint beam.

I don't want it to necessarily be a beast, but i got some competition from work, particularly from this dual cab hilux owner who has been baggin the baja name since i worked there.... i'll show him!
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#652856
Buggy Brad wrote:your in qld you can do it.

A beam is not a suspension component by definition so it is not an issue.

If anyone tells you anything else ask them for a reference, they will not have one.

Facts finished now back to comments and suggestions
YOU BEAUTY!👍

Thanks for clarifying that Brad, thats excellent! Full steam ahead i say. Bloody sweet

Thats the best thing i have heard all week, rest of it has been a blood bath.
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New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard

460 posts · joined Sep 2006 ·

#652884
still only legal if engineered though, correct??
you can cut and weld, but the welding must be approved, therefore tested to be legal.

This may not be the case in Qld, it is in Vic.
I would hope its not legal to drive on a beam buzzed back together with some handymans gasless mig!

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#652921
xornge666x wrote:still only legal if engineered though, correct??
you can cut and weld, but the welding must be approved, therefore tested to be legal.

This may not be the case in Qld, it is in Vic.
I would hope its not legal to drive on a beam buzzed back together with some handymans gasless mig!
Instead of justifying the law to yet another person I will just say.. when you buy brake pads do you get them engineered after you have fitted them ?

There is a certain amount of common sense which needs to be used.

Engineering as people say is a very loose term.

Does a set of front adjusters need to be approved in QLD, no. Could you fit them with a dodgy welder .. yep .. you could also use super glue to hold your wheels on but you would be an idiot to do it ......
Brad
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lexm Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#653050
Buggy Brad wrote:you could also use super glue to hold your wheels on but you would be an idiot to do it ......
Yeah, You'd have to carry acetone to change a flat. That's dangerous stuff😂

Ampdub Officially Full-On Dubber

310 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#653172
correct me if im wrong but i was told once that 1 inch of good welding is equal to 1 ton of breaking strain. so done right should be no prob