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ash83 Learner Dubber

4 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#652048
Hi everyone. I am a new member !!! i dont own a vw. but i do have m mg tf. The new mg. Currently i am not happy with the power. and i was looking to put a wrx engine in to it. after searching the web. found this web site is the best tech support !!! anyway i am in sydney . at this point of time i am just wondering what i might need for this conversion and where to start. plus if you could tell me the cost of this conversion. like the engine package cost and approx labour costing ets.... thank you

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#652049
The WRX is a 'flat' boxer design, the MGF uses an in-line four cylinder. In short, forget the WRX conversion as the engine won't fit
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ash83 Learner Dubber

4 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#652054
if the wrx dosnt fit. then what would be the best turbo engine i can fit ???
I have seen a honda v tec fitted in mgf. link www.goldenwheels.co.uk/
But i want a turbo charged engine . what would you suggest ????

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#652063
you could turbo what is there - but I hope you have $
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#652135
I think Helbus means the;
Turbo Nissan 2.0 litre 4 cylinder SR20DET

The RB family of engines (20,25,26 etc) are 6 cylinders and much longer than the SR 4cyl motors.

I think you should sell the MG and buy something else faster. It will be much cheaper.
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#652168
Is April the 1st already?

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#652226
ash83 wrote:if the wrx dosnt fit. then what would be the best turbo engine i can fit ???
I have seen a honda v tec fitted in mgf. link www.goldenwheels.co.uk/
But i want a turbo charged engine . what would you suggest ????
your other alternative is an mitsubishi EVO motor. 4G63 is the code i think. Just remember, what ever you use, you'll need a gearbox that can hand the power.

Hang on a minute. Doesn't the MG is a very similar motor to the Lotus Elise? There are a number of turbo kits for them.

If you really want a WRX you could do it, however, it would take a lot of engineering. You'd need to use a subaru tranny and mount is all under the rear of the car. Doable, but why bother when you could just turbo the original motor.
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ash83 Learner Dubber

4 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#652241
Yes I could turbo charge my existing motor. And lotus elise used the same motor for a while. But the motor it self is not vary reliable.
Ok if i would have to turbo charge what is the rough figure ?? cost wise. even a vary low boost 5psi??
or will it be cheaper to change the engine and gear box from jap engine to make a monster ???
anyone knows any garage around banks town who does this kind of performence works ???

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#652259
honestly, for a turbo/intercooler/ECU on your stock motor, I'd plan around $5k minimum. I'd check some UK sites out for kits. someone must have done it.

check this...
http://www.morego.co.uk/bbr-gti/RoverK.php
You could talk to AVO in Melbourne too.

A swap will cost more. I'd say at least $10k by the time it's finished, engineered, aproved and the like.

Honestly, the best thing you can do is sell the MG and buy a series 1 or 2 toyota MR2. Cheaper, billion hot up parts available, everyone knows what to do to them, etc, etc.

MGs are rovers, rovers are....well you know. 👎 no offence. 🙂
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THUDKNUCKLE Officially Full-On Dubber

224 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#652421
ill have to second helbus on this one if you must do a conversion Sr20det
very nice motor lot of power , light weight , tough as, and a huge support market for them
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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#652509
300 hp out of my stock sr20 🙂
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THUDKNUCKLE Officially Full-On Dubber

224 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#652586
but they dont have the character or as much fun factor ( it doesnt have to be fast to be fun )
Love is a Rotary baja bug
Just be carefull 🥷,, something dangerous is lurkin in My garage ready to burst out in a fit of Big Hp, high boost baja Rage .

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rocknrob Insano Dub Head

844 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#652682
look at what your MG is worth and add on the cost of modifying it then try and figure out what it will be worth as a modified vehicle. if the numbers don't scare you then go for it! modifying cars is fun...that is why we are all here👍

johny rotten Officially Full-On Dubber

366 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#652866
the first thing that comes to mind would be a Rover all alloy V8

ash83 Learner Dubber

4 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#652910
johny rotten wrote:the first thing that comes to mind would be a Rover all alloy V8

rover v8 ?? would you have specks for that ??? and which car does it come from ??

Dero Officially Full-On Dubber

227 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#652924
P76 4.5 Ltr Alloy V8....

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#653038
I have a toyota v8 half cut $1800.00

of I have a MX5 half cut low k auto , now that would be sweet mmm
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frenzix Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,742 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#653040
johny rotten wrote:the first thing that comes to mind would be a Rover all alloy V8
Have you ever owned one? no offense but they are shit
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#653049
Forget any old V8's, and most import engines. The big problem with trying to do a conversion on a current model car is satisfying emissions requirements. You have to put in an equivalent or newer engine for the conversion to be legal. Almost anything to come in through a jap importer won't be new enough to satisfy this requirement, and even current jap cars don't necessarily meet the euro emissions level that the MG is likely complying with.

I really don't think it'd be worth trying to modify the MG, unless you decided to turbo what you already have, which has it's own set of problems.
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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#653051
frenzix wrote:
johny rotten wrote:the first thing that comes to mind would be a Rover all alloy V8
Have you ever owned one? no offense but they are shit
I have seen two blow up 🙂
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johny rotten Officially Full-On Dubber

366 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#653061
frenzix wrote:
johny rotten wrote:the first thing that comes to mind would be a Rover all alloy V8
Have you ever owned one? no offense but they are shit
They can go very well with a little love,
no offense but I think Subis are shit, so its each to his own😂

Rota\_Motor Casual Dubber

25 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#656072
forgive me if I'm getting mixede up, but someone said its the same motor as some Elise?? which motor is it, the Rover motor, or the Toyota??

if its the rover, and the toyota can fit where the rover cdoes, maybe consider a late model toyota powerplant, MR2 or Celica, Camry or Corolla, the biggest that will legally fit. Do some research and you might be pleasantly surprised.

but it will still probably be cheaper and easier to sell the MG and buy somethng faster. Silvia/200SX, WRX, EVO lancer, MR2, Celica, there are plenty of faster options to suit pretty much any budget, if you decide to go that way, and most will be much cheaper than upgrading what you got.

Having said that, if you love the MG, and what it faster, feel free to pour all the cash you want into it.
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