2443TT wrote:Since you asked... and also because tomorrow I need to show the engineer that the steering works and doesnt foul on anything... here is one side of the car assembled. I've also dropped the front end to its lowest level. This is 100mm from the chassis framehead to the ground, the guards are 125mm at their lowest point to the ground. Im pretty happy with how its looking. Its looking insane, which is what I was hoping for. The back is still stitting a little high as there is no engine in there. The idea is to get a little of the tyre up inside the guard (which is why they are a little wider than they need to be, to allow the car to get lower to the ground while still having 2-2.5" suspension travel.
Still finishing the left rear guard, and i need to tidy the ends where the rolled edges are on the rears and the fronts a little more. Ive gotten them very close to flat without using any bog so far. Its been raining the past 2 days so i havent been able to take the guards outside to sand. Ive been trying to limit how much dust I get over everything inside the workshop...(it hasnt worked).
Cheers,
Ian
nothing wrong with that mmmm
😎Well the ball is definatly rolling down hill now. This afternoon I finished the last of the body to chassis mounts. Boy was that fun because no matter how much you sweep a concrete floor it always seems to retain some fiberglass dust Then I stripped the car back to nearly nothing again, body off the pan, and am stripping back the chassis at the moment.
This tomorrow and this weekend I'll be finishing the chassis off completely so it can be sand blasted and painted next week and the final assembly can begin. All that remains to be done on the chassis is front and rear sway bar mounts, seat belt mounts and some minor corrections to the front suspension alignment.
Im going to enjoy doing something with metal again, im sick of that fiberglass crap.
Great to here it passed engineering!!!👍👍
Cheers
Dino
Hi all,
Well this weekend I went hard at it and the chassis is now within a few hours of being finished. The front swaybar mounts are finished. I added a triangle into the front suspension mount with some 5mm plate which strengthens the suspension mount and also allowed me to dril and tap some 12mm threads to mount the swaybar too. The back is done simular with mounts welded to the rear torsion housing which are also drilled and tapped with 12mm threads.
Ive also added a little more 5mm plate to the floor pan in front of the torsion housing at the outside to serve as the base for the roll cage mounts and seatbelt mounts. Last of all I went to town on fully welding the outer edges of the floor pan from the under side where the 40mm plate joins the 20x20 angle.
The chassis is now fully stripped of all parts and ive put bolts in everywhere there is a thread so I can have the chassis sand blasted and painted next. Ive also added some industrial casters to it so its easy to wheel around. As for the weight, i estimate the front weighs around 70kg and the back about 60. With it stripped i can easily pickup the chassis and move it around, so it will be very intestesting to see what a corner weight is when its assembled.
All that remains now is to go over it with a flapper disk and remove as much splatter as I can from it so it will look nice an clean when its painted and the final assmebly begins. Sand blasting and priming this week, then paintin on the weekend when i convert my second garage into a spray booth. 🙂 !!!
Here are the pics.
Cheers,
Ian
Two garages....now thats just being greedy Ian! 😉
Nice progress by the way, I bet you are looking forward to painting the chassis - obviously it is a very well thought-out project so hopefully there will be no "Doh - wish I welded that there before I bloody painted it!"
All the best
Al
Dasdubber wrote:Two garages....now thats just being greedy Ian! 😉
Nice progress by the way, I bet you are looking forward to painting the chassis - obviously it is a very well thought-out project so hopefully there will be no "Doh - wish I welded that there before I bloody painted it!"
All the best
Al
Yes indeed it is very handy having the 2nd garage. I park the gtr in there for the moment so it doesnt get covered in dust from all the work ive been doing on the vw lately.
Yes I am getting very psyched about doing the assembly soon. I am hoping i won't have any of those "dam i should have welded that in moments"... thats what the trial fitting to the chassis was for... hopefully that was enough. Its all going to be done in 2pack so it should be possible to touch up if necessary though.
I might start a debate on what colours to paint it all too.
I am going to re-spray the shell and guards at some stage, most likely a dark metalic grey like Ive seen on the porsche 997's but initially im just going to have the guards done in arctic silver. The interior current has black and grey seats, silver autometer gauges and a lot of carbon fibre trim. I am going to keep that theme on the outside too with some custom carbon running boards/side skirts and the engine lid.
As for the chassis I am thinking a medium grey hammertone, or just a plain medium grey. The 1mm alloy floor pan sections can be done in another colour, or the same as the chassis. They will be screwed and sikaflexed to the chassis from the underside.
Alloy suspension parts will be etch primed and painted light grey. Shocks will remain green. Spindles, steering rack and swaybar mounts will be black.
I'll be doing the brake rotor centers light grey same as the suspension parts, and the calipers will be detailed but painted black again (everyone has red calipers).
All feel free to jump in with suggestions.
2443TT wrote:I might start a debate on what colours to paint it all too.
We all know what colour Pete and westi would choose
😂Dasdubber wrote:2443TT wrote:I might start a debate on what colours to paint it all too.
We all know what colour Pete and westi would choose
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Any ideas on how much it will weigh ?
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx AustraliaNot sure... its got to be pretty close to a factory pan though. This evening I cleaned up the weld splatter with a flapper disc and then end for end flipped it to tip out all the dust and crap from the tunnel. It wasnt easy but I managed (im not a big guy... about 68kg). Time will tell... i'll know in a few weeks and will weight it as a bare chassis for comparison to westi's build. Westi's posted corner weights of his chassis in his thread from memory....
Saw the sand blasters today... Its off to be blasted and painted tomorrow morning!!!
Golde60 wrote:I want to see just how mean that car looks once those W I D E guards go on
Function over form, its gonna look mean alright.
WOW
thats WWWWIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDEEEEEEE
I like it.
I think I underestimated what the finished product would look like, but I am impressed.....
Can t wait to see and hear it run
When does the case arrive from Rocky?
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best of luck with the painting Ian
As for the chassis and pan, I m voting for them being the same colour - black......
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Woo Hoo! Picked up the chassis from the sand blasters today. No assmebly this weekend though as im off to melbourne for a 2 days training on tuning the Wolf ECU, since ive just recently become the Cairns distributor for Wolf ecu's and will soon be listed as an authorised tuner.
Pic...
The Rocky Jennings engine case should arrive tomorrow. Paid GST on it yesterday and it left sydney by air last night.
Detailing and chassis assemby starts next week.
Cheers,
Ian
Looks like a nicely evolved volksie chassis there dude! Nice work...👍
Reub
Looks the real deal now with nice glossy paint Ian!!
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Crazy stuff Ian, keep it coming.
beautiful, thanks for posting...it's been sad not seeing your daily progress as you waited for the chassis.
It's like missing out on the morning coffee. 🙁
Hi Guys,
Melbourne was too bloody cold yesterday, but the Wolf EFI training was awesome. Ive learnt heaps about the new V5's ecu's capabilities, all i need to do is finish a car so I can apply some of these things ive learned to what Im building.
Today I collected the new engine block fresh from Rocky Jenning's workshop. It looks great. Its a 2.1 block, water jackets removed, raceware main stud kit which torque to 40ft-lb, barrel shimms for 94mm cylinders, machined offset stud inserts for 94mm bores, the case is internally clearanced for the 88mm crank and has a custom bearing set to suit my 88mm flanged crank and this case, and last of all sleaved lifter bores. I expect i'll be doing a trial assembly inside a month, however the main focus for me is still to finish the chassis.
I purchased the paint to detail all the chassis components today, and the remaining parts (new steering rack ends, tie rods etc) are waiting at the postoffice for me to collect tomorrow. Prep for painting and detailing starts tonight!
Cheers,
Ian
Don't know anything about these engines. What are the 3 grooves under the identification stamp down the bottom for?
Simon
nice one Ian, can't wait to see more.........mmmmmm oxyboxer
hellbugged wrote:nice one Ian, can't wait to see more.........mmmmmm oxyboxer
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trickysimon wrote:Don't know anything about these engines. What are the 3 grooves under the identification stamp down the bottom for?
Simon
clearance for case stud access
Keeping it real !
Ok guys brace yourselves... final assembly has begun.
Tomorrow im painting the rear end parts, and putting in the steering rack which is painted now but still drying.
Cheers,
Ian
mmm very noice!!
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I'm getting v e r y excited dude...😁
Reub
it's looking the business!!👍👍
Cheers
Dino
How much, if any, did you have to cut out of the body around the front end of the front control arms? I looked at doing this years ago and as I remember it needed to have a decent amount cut out of the rear of the spare tire well. If you had to cut, can you snap a couple of pics?
Jason
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Bad Dub RacingI didnt have to cut any material from the front or the rear to clear the suspension. The mcpherson strut front end clears the body by about 5mm each side. I did however remove a fair amount of the rear inner guards to make room for the much wider than stock engine, and to make the rear apron removable.
This suspension setup has been made possible due to the wider chassis (rotor to rotor) that the later model 944s/968's have. They wheels have small offsets. The early 944's are much narrower rotor to rotor, and use large offset wheels instead.
In my case I have not wanted to keep the standard wheel track. The chassis is 200mm wider overall than a standard bug, making it the same as the 944's. This means all my steering angles will be the same as the 944. Only bump steer will be slightly different as the steering rack sits slightly higher (about 10mm) than it would be on a 944. When the car is lowered to its limit that issue is solved.
In hindsight I really think the front and rear suspension from a r32 gtr skyline would have been a better way to go as far as handling is concerned. Double A arms all around. But the front end would have gotten very complicated and as for steering geometry... the gtr is probably very diferent to the VW or porsche 944.
thanks for the reply. When you mate the body and pan again will you snap a pic of the area behind the spare tire well where it is near the front of the control arms?
I think the KISS priciple is the best, and you've done a pretty good job with that. I went double wishbone myself, which is in itself complicated, but very little cutting of the body or pan to offset that.
Look forward to a handling report!
Jason
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Bad Dub RacingWell today i installed the steering rack, all the hydraulic hard lines for the brakes and clutch. Then went to work sanding one of the rear trailing arms and then painted it. Its time consuming doing all this work but I think its worth it in the end.
Here are the pics of today's progress.
Cheers,
Ian
