65 Notch EJ20 conversion...small update.

Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Sep 2008, 10:29 pm

#668681

Hey Guys,
The Notch conversion isnt far off being completed now..
65 Notch body,
72 Pan modded with tuning forks/horns.
73 brakes all round.
2006 Impreza EJ20 motor. 4k km's old.
OE ECU.

Heres a pic of the motor insitu..

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Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Sep 2008, 10:31 pm

#668682

The radiator with A/C installed..

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Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Sep 2008, 10:32 pm

#668683

Under pan coolant lines..

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Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Sep 2008, 10:38 pm

#668686

Hmmmm....

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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 9 Sep 2008, 10:38 pm

#668687

great work. you're gonna love driving it. 😏

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JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 · 9 Sep 2008, 11:06 pm

#668689

Hutcho wrote:Hey Guys,
The Notch conversion isnt far off being completed now..
65 Notch body,
72 Pan modded with tuning forks/horns.
73 brakes all round.
2006 Impreza EJ20 motor. 4k km's old.
OE ECU.

Heres a pic of the motor insitu..

nice😎

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 10 Sep 2008, 8:20 am

#668715

Sheit yeah! Looks great

Pay your debts, CxxT

Flintstones Custom Title Time!

1,077 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 10 Sep 2008, 8:31 pm

#668841

what they said!! 👍👍😎

Notch Nut Custom Title Time!

1,011 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 10 Sep 2008, 10:51 pm

#668880

Out of curiosity, how many litres of coolant/water would it take to fill the radiator and hoses with the extra length required to reach the engine?

If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....

Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 Sep 2008, 8:36 am

#668904

Thank, guys. I cant wait! Its been a looong time in the making. Ive just decided in the last few months that it must be completed so Ive spent every spare second on it. Just waiting for the Surge Tank from Tweakit.com.

Notch Nut wrote:Out of curiosity, how many litres of coolant/water would it take to fill the radiator and hoses with the extra length required to reach the engine?

Hi mate, I havent filled it yet but will in the next day or two. Ill let you know then. The radiator is out of a Ford Zetec. I could take a guess at 7 litres. Any special reason you ask?
Cheers,
Steve

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 Sep 2008, 5:24 pm

#668977

Hi

Fits nice. So are you going run AC?

Steve

rocknrob Insano Dub Head

844 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 11 Sep 2008, 5:30 pm

#668978

Notch Nut wrote:Out of curiosity, how many litres of coolant/water would it take to fill the radiator and hoses with the extra length required to reach the engine?

yeah 7 litres sounds about right for your car...i have the rad in the front of the kombi and it takes about 10L👍

trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 · 11 Sep 2008, 6:44 pm

#668991

How many litres go into a normal watercooled car for comparison?
Simon

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 11 Sep 2008, 9:55 pm

#669030

My buggy takes about 9litres I think. THe usual is about 3-4 I think.

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 11 Sep 2008, 10:06 pm

#669036

hellnotch takes 17 L with the commadore rad......

nice install hutcho, you will be rapped with the performance i bet........

my sister is up for a new motor in her notch soon so i'll be watching this one with a keen eye......

Notch Nut Custom Title Time!

1,011 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 11 Sep 2008, 10:42 pm

#669048

Just curious cos it has a hell of a way to travel from the radiator to the engine and back again. Also, it looked to be of large diameter hosing as well so I figured it would be well over what the radiator/engine set up would have required in it's origional car (I figured that the radiator would probably hold between 4-5 litres normally).
Would the water pump be under any more strain having to pump the coolant further to the radiator or because there is no air in the system it makes no difference?

- Adam

If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 12 Sep 2008, 9:13 am

#669073

^ re the pump. its not really under more strain because the water is in a closed system.

hellbugged wrote:my sister is up for a new motor in her notch soon so i'll be watching this one with a keen eye......

[arnie voice] DOO IT! DOO IT NOOW!!! 😂

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Sep 2008, 9:31 am

#669080

Notch Nut wrote:Just curious cos it has a hell of a way to travel from the radiator to the engine and back again. Also, it looked to be of large diameter hosing as well so I figured it would be well over what the radiator/engine set up would have required in it's original car (I figured that the radiator would probably hold between 4-5 litres normally).Would the water pump be under any more strain having to pump the coolant further to the radiator or because there is no air in the system it makes no difference?- Adam

Hi Adam,The distance is a fraction over 2 meters. The pipe/hose diameter is 32mm throughout. Its actually slightly smaller than the motor inlet/outlet which measures at 35ish? I had thought about (and heard rumours of problems with) the water pump. I seacrched around and couldnt find any of these rumours substantiated though so I think its all just hearsay so far. Ive chosen a radiator that doesnt have a cap in the hope that system doesnt hold any air pockets. The rad filler/burp tank (catches any system air) is the tank you can see inside the engine bay pic on the left. Ive still to find an overflow/expansion tank. Being a longer cooling system, Ive figured that it will equal better heat loss (it the reason why I installed metal pipes in) so perhaps the pump doesnt need to work as effectively. One way or another, Ill find out! Ive been eying off those Davis Craig Electric Water pumps too but upon research, Im not entirely convinced on them...Cheers,Steve

Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Sep 2008, 9:39 am

#669082

1303Steve wrote:Hi

Fits nice. So are you going run AC?

Steve

Hi Steve,
Yeah it does. Had to cut a fraction for the throttle body though. Im considering on lifting the motor up a bit which will, as we are all aware of, have another major benefit. Yes, the plan is to run AC. I cant think of any reason why not!🤪

Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Sep 2008, 9:47 am

#669084

hellbugged wrote:hellnotch takes 17 L with the commadore rad......

nice install hutcho, you will be rapped with the performance i bet........

my sister is up for a new motor in her notch soon so i'll be watching this one with a keen eye......

Crap! 17 ltrs! Do you have any pump issues?
The performance will be good but no where near as good as yours mate!
Even though my conversion has taken me a while due to research etc, its an extremelly simple intall once you have the right parts! When its up and running, Ill be listing every part (and cost) Ive used so maybe others wont have to buy 5 of everything to see what fits and what doesnt....

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Sep 2008, 10:51 am

#669089

More water just means it takes longer to warm up. Mine only holds about 5L I think, but it is rear radiator. Definitely run AC, it's cool (parden the pun).

I'm running the Davies Craig water pump. It's main advantage was that it let me remove an empty power steering pump (acting as an idler), an idler and an accessorie belt off the engine. It hasn't really done anything for the cooling, which it realistically shouldn't as the stock water pump should be more than sufficient for cooling and pumping the water around.

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reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 12 Sep 2008, 10:51 am

#669090

Looks great. And good on you doing a full list of parts and costs for your conversion.👍 This will certainly help all those wanting to get in and do something similar.

Reub

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 15 Oct 2008, 11:16 pm

#675022

My bro fitted an EJ20T into his Notch 13 years ago and it was installed in much the same manner as this conversion... My bro's has the radiator for the intercooler up front also and it run perfectly cool in 40plusº WA heat through a 300x150mm hole in the front under the bumper.... Just make sure you shroud the radiator well to direct the heat out the spare wheel well and seal it off from the front boot...

Keep it coming...

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GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 17 Oct 2008, 12:06 pm

#675247

Steve, that EJ20 looks far too clean 😎

I have done an aluminium shroud set up on mine now that you would prob be interested in seeing.

Andrew

1971 Type 3 Fasty - EJ20T

I love 242HP sleepers. 🤪

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Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Oct 2008, 6:41 pm

#675306

humpty wrote:Bro's has the radiator for the intercooler up front also and it run perfectly cool in 40plusº WA heat through a 300x150mm hole in the front under the bumper.... Just make sure you shroud the radiator well to direct the heat out the spare wheel well and seal it off from the front boot...

Keep it coming...

Yeah, Ive yet to shroud the radiator yet. Good to hear your bros runs nice and cool. Ive got about the same size cut out in the front of mine.

GTMac wrote:Steve, that EJ20 looks far too clean rnrnI have done an aluminium shroud set up on mine now that you would prob be interested in seeing. Andrew

He he. Its waaay cleaner than the Notch, thats for sure, Andrew. Not for long though! I plan to rack up some K's on this thing very shortly! Yes, your right. I wannna see your alum. shroud contraption....PICS, PLEASE!

While Im here, I might as well update this thread. I picked up a Charcoal/Carbon Canister and an overflow tank from the wreckers yesterday (late model T@#ota) and fitted them today. I have to run another steel line down the car for the return from the Canister. Got a temp exhaust made up and fittedwith a plug for the (front) Oxy Sensor. Theres a STACK of room for a good exhaust for an EJ20 in a Type 3.
Waiting to recieve the electric pump Ive ordered as the HP pump is struggling to suck fuel from the front of the car.
Thats all fro now..
Steve

ElusiveStranger Officially Full-On Dubber

330 posts · joined May 2006 · 18 Oct 2008, 1:09 am

#675347

Looking good mate

FYI standard dia Scooby pipes hold roughly 1.1 litre/metre.
My bus holds about 10 litres, including the XJ40 rad

Substitute litres for Kgs if you wanna know how much additional weight

cruiser Seriously Crusin Dubber

193 posts · joined Aug 2007 · 31 Oct 2008, 10:11 pm

#677597

Hi folks,

I have also just picked up an EJ20T with plans to fit it to my 68 notch.

Looking fwd to your final notes, plenty to learn for me still.

RAZ34 Seriously Crusin Dubber

119 posts · joined Aug 2006 · 17 Jan 2009, 11:25 am

#689912

Nice car, could you reveal some details on your wheel/trye/brake combo . Are they boxster 17x7s all round.
Thanks
Rod R .

Scarab Wolfsburg Wizard

646 posts · joined Jul 2009 · 11 Oct 2009, 8:04 pm

#740189

Sorry to drag up an old post, but this looks like a great conversion.......what happened to it?? Is it finished, is it shelved....whats the go? Very interested, please let me know!!!

Hutcho Wolfsburg Wizard

528 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 26 Nov 2009, 9:31 pm

#749337

Hi there. Car has been put on the back burner this year. It's in storage and will be finished over the next few months.
Wheels are Boxster 17 x 7's. Tyres are 205/45's Front and 205/50's rear. I sold on those Big Reds for obvious reasons. Although it's a dream of mine to have them on a car I own, the Notch is far, far from needing them. Will be probably just running late Type 3 standard brakes for now but will be looking at an upgrade soon.

Cheers.

PS Scarab, I've read your posts about your car. Good work and good luck!