badkarmann Seriously Crusin Dubber
121 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·
yes it was a great day would have been my first time there , but mine got wreacked the morning of show im looking foward to going to next years show with my Karmann
A few photos from Flat Four Shootout
miikeboyle Commited Dubber
57 posts · joined Jul 2008 ·
Maybe if they ran two lots, with one being the competition with and entry fee, and another thats not judged and free. That way you would get the best of both worlds and get a whole lot more dubs out of the car park and into the show.
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2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·
Split the show into all out show cars and then cars that see regular road use perhaps.
ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE
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ph billet Officially Full-On Dubber
237 posts · joined Nov 2003 ·
Thanks very much we are a small club and we try our bestVWFREAK wrote:Great event as always, well done to the Flat 4 committee and members
ph billet Officially Full-On Dubber
237 posts · joined Nov 2003 ·
I DONT THINK WE WILL MISS YOUsilver wrote:I was there an Hour
I don't enter cars (too restrictive)
I don't want a trophy (they looked cheap, should have given everyone free hot dogs instead)
Swap meet was tiny
venue is stale
numbers way down
same old cars inside
vendors down
I think this event needs a freshen up
maybe find a Venue closer to the city
and do they really have to give trophies? give everyone a event shirt instead or a sticker yay!
I dont see a reason to go next year 🙁
same old same old
Silver
ph billet Officially Full-On Dubber
237 posts · joined Nov 2003 ·
word of wisdom from a true car enthusiast.newghia wrote:It is true that some cars do win the same categories, but sometimes they have no competition,
if you dont enter your car, you dont compete with them...simple really.
i went / entered for the first time & came away happy.
There were lots of nice cars not entered,(parking lot)
and a lot of the same cars inside / displayed that are at all the shows,
MAYBE these people just really enjoy their cars & the atmosphere...they are certainly committed
each to their own........i still see new things on cars i have seen several times
split09 Slammed & Awesome Dubber
99 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·
ph billet wrote:I DONT THINK WE WILL MISS YOUsilver wrote:I was there an Hour
I don't enter cars (too restrictive)
I don't want a trophy (they looked cheap, should have given everyone free hot dogs instead)
Swap meet was tiny
venue is stale
numbers way down
same old cars inside
vendors down
I think this event needs a freshen up
maybe find a Venue closer to the city
and do they really have to give trophies? give everyone a event shirt instead or a sticker yay!
I dont see a reason to go next year 🙁
same old same old
Silver
Indeed i think you will. For if he does not go and has other vw friends im sure that they will not go and it has me convinced that it may be my last as well, and have been going for the last 10 years and its always the same cars, and this year was a very poor crowd. I already know 5 other people who will not be going anymore, do i see a snowball coming????
watever
lardo Officially Full-On Dubber
288 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·
The best format was when it was a top 20 "Shoot Out" back at the days at Penrith or the old auction shed (i think thats what it was, good venue with the bar in the middle) no catagories just a strait one in all in. It gets away from the usual format and makes it more interesting & less predictable as to who is going to win.
The other thing I find off putting is the host club (who ever it maybe) having all their own cars entered & then judged by the same club,It is hard to be unbiased no matter what the situation is.
But then again winnig is not what its all about.
Just my 2bobs worth.
The other thing I find off putting is the host club (who ever it maybe) having all their own cars entered & then judged by the same club,It is hard to be unbiased no matter what the situation is.
But then again winnig is not what its all about.
Just my 2bobs worth.
split09 Slammed & Awesome Dubber
99 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·
Nearly every car in the hall had a "particular" sticker in its rear quarter window.😉
watever
newghia stock is for people who cant think outside the square
679 posts · joined May 2008 ·
I dont have a quarter window.......or a sticker, just an open mind & an inquisitive nature ! 😂
ph billet....loved the ramps this time, can i get some ?
ph billet....loved the ramps this time, can i get some ?
Step up to get out !!!
Camo Custom Title Time!
1,936 posts · joined Oct 2007 ·
Firstly, I only started this thread to put up a few photos for those that may not have made it. Sure I didn't take photos of every car, but I wasn't there as a photographer. I went there as I am new to VW's and want to get ideas (which I did) and this was only my 2nd year there.silver wrote:I was there an Hour
I don't enter cars (too restrictive)
I don't want a trophy (they looked cheap, should have given everyone free hot dogs instead)
Swap meet was tiny
venue is stale
numbers way down
same old cars inside
vendors down
I think this event needs a freshen up
maybe find a Venue closer to the city
and do they really have to give trophies? give everyone a event shirt instead or a sticker yay!
I dont see a reason to go next year 🙁
same old same old
Silver
I agree from last year it was a bit quieter, but I don't feel as if a club that puts on a show should have to be forced to have it in a particular area. I am not a member of any club, but believe the Flat Four guys (Gals) are from out in that area. If people can travel from VIC, NSW etc to Warwick for a couple of days, surely they can travel an hour or so to a day outing. Also, I'm positive there were new cars there this year.
Personally re the trophies, I have been slowly building my own VW for the last 12 months and hope to enter my car next year and in other events. If I was lucky enough to pick up a trophy, I would be happy as. Also having had over 40 cars in 25 years, this would be the first car I have ever entered into a show and would love to win a trophy. And I hope that I will be able to win more trophies over time. So, even if you think the trophies are lame (your entitled to an opinion) for some people (me) they would treasure them and the trophies would represent an achievement.
To the Flat Four club, keep your chin up and make sure this event happens again next year and hopefully my car will be there.
Regards, Kevin
I thought rebuilding a VW would be cheap - Shit I was wrong, just don't let the wife know !!!!
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ph billet Officially Full-On Dubber
237 posts · joined Nov 2003 ·
A sticker that is worn with pride.split09 wrote:Nearly every car in the hall had a "particular" sticker in its rear quarter window.😉
ph billet Officially Full-On Dubber
237 posts · joined Nov 2003 ·
Thanks for kind words Kevin , its what is writen on the trophy that counts , maybe thay would like one of those American trophys that stand 6 feet tall .over compensating for something.Camo wrote:Firstly, I only started this thread to put up a few photos for those that may not have made it. Sure I didn't take photos of every car, but I wasn't there as a photographer. I went there as I am new to VW's and want to get ideas (which I did) and this was only my 2nd year there.silver wrote:I was there an Hour
I don't enter cars (too restrictive)
I don't want a trophy (they looked cheap, should have given everyone free hot dogs instead)
Swap meet was tiny
venue is stale
numbers way down
same old cars inside
vendors down
I think this event needs a freshen up
maybe find a Venue closer to the city
and do they really have to give trophies? give everyone a event shirt instead or a sticker yay!
I dont see a reason to go next year 🙁
same old same old
Silver
I agree from last year it was a bit quieter, but I don't feel as if a club that puts on a show should have to be forced to have it in a particular area. I am not a member of any club, but believe the Flat Four guys (Gals) are from out in that area. If people can travel from VIC, NSW etc to Warwick for a couple of days, surely they can travel an hour or so to a day outing. Also, I'm positive there were new cars there this year.
Personally re the trophies, I have been slowly building my own VW for the last 12 months and hope to enter my car next year and in other events. If I was lucky enough to pick up a trophy, I would be happy as. Also having had over 40 cars in 25 years, this would be the first car I have ever entered into a show and would love to win a trophy. And I hope that I will be able to win more trophies over time. So, even if you think the trophies are lame (your entitled to an opinion) for some people (me) they would treasure them and the trophies would represent an achievement.
To the Flat Four club, keep your chin up and make sure this event happens again next year and hopefully my car will be there.
Regards, Kevin
ph billet Officially Full-On Dubber
237 posts · joined Nov 2003 ·
Thanks Im glad you liked them, and great for cleaning the car at home. but sorry there a one off.newghia wrote:I dont have a quarter window.......or a sticker, just an open mind & an inquisitive nature ! 😂
ph billet....loved the ramps this time, can i get some ?
ph billet Officially Full-On Dubber
237 posts · joined Nov 2003 ·
split09 wrote:ph billet wrote:I DONT THINK WE WILL MISS YOUsilver wrote:I was there an Hour
I don't enter cars (too restrictive)
I don't want a trophy (they looked cheap, should have given everyone free hot dogs instead)
Swap meet was tiny
venue is stale
numbers way down
same old cars inside
vendors down
I think this event needs a freshen up
maybe find a Venue closer to the city
and do they really have to give trophies? give everyone a event shirt instead or a sticker yay!
I dont see a reason to go next year 🙁
same old same old
Silver
Indeed i think you will. For if he does not go and has other vw friends im sure that they will not go and it has me convinced that it may be my last as well, and have been going for the last 10 years and its always the same cars, and this year was a very poor crowd. I already know 5 other people who will not be going anymore, do i see a snowball coming????
I see a whinger comming ,how many car shows have you organized?
J BOMB Seriously Crusin Dubber
125 posts · joined Dec 2007 ·
awesome photos mate ! should have gone, looked like a great day.. love the customworks bug on air and the single cab with all the signwriting.. awesome !
Camo Custom Title Time!
1,936 posts · joined Oct 2007 ·
Sorry, left this photo out by mistake.
Kev
Kev
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t2 stop taking life so serious
1,102 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
here are the pics i took on the day
this ghia i think is amazing i wanted to vote for it for peoples choice but it was not entered, this car i have not seen before
this bug of damos is great , he gets around in this bug with all the cool old bags on the roof everyday , he also has this sweet period picnic set on display on the back seat , this also stays there permanent.
the only other show this has entered is valla so this was new aswell
i liked this one looked clean i havent seen it before , i guess thats all the pics i took
this ghia i think is amazing i wanted to vote for it for peoples choice but it was not entered, this car i have not seen before
this bug of damos is great , he gets around in this bug with all the cool old bags on the roof everyday , he also has this sweet period picnic set on display on the back seat , this also stays there permanent.
the only other show this has entered is valla so this was new aswell
i liked this one looked clean i havent seen it before , i guess thats all the pics i took
gravity wont get you high
silver Dangerous when poked
2,169 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·
ph billet wrote:split09 wrote:ph billet wrote:I DONT THINK WE WILL MISS YOUsilver wrote:I was there an Hour
I don't enter cars (too restrictive)
I don't want a trophy (they looked cheap, should have given everyone free hot dogs instead)
Swap meet was tiny
venue is stale
numbers way down
same old cars inside
vendors down
I think this event needs a freshen up
maybe find a Venue closer to the city
and do they really have to give trophies? give everyone a event shirt instead or a sticker yay!
I dont see a reason to go next year 🙁
same old same old
Silver
Indeed i think you will. For if he does not go and has other vw friends im sure that they will not go and it has me convinced that it may be my last as well, and have been going for the last 10 years and its always the same cars, and this year was a very poor crowd. I already know 5 other people who will not be going anymore, do i see a snowball coming????
I see a whinger comming ,how many car shows have you organized?
Sorry I touched a nerve dude,
I made some criticisms of the event, use them to improve it
If I organized a car show it would probably mean the death of the shootout
we don't want that to happen
Silver
Keeping it real !
warb gimme some butter im on a roll.....
1,983 posts · joined May 2003 ·
that ghia is beckers, sweet as, asked him to park inside, not enuff cars in there.. and for that beelte on bags, very very nice, even for a beetle. 😀 .
pod i`ve got to finish this thing one day
4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
OH!!! you mean the Entrant sticker🤪split09 wrote:Nearly every car in the hall had a "particular" sticker in its rear quarter window.😉
meetings 1st sunday of the month
check wbsite for location
All Welcome
http://www.flatfour.org/
and on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/FlatFour
check wbsite for location
All Welcome
http://www.flatfour.org/
and on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/FlatFour
split09 Slammed & Awesome Dubber
99 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·
you organize it, deal with constructive criticism. Chill out man!
watever
HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
The Shootout has had a long history of hit and miss turn up, both participants and entrants.
I wouldn't say it is entirely the clubs fault.
However, while numbers are down I can understand people not going for a look. If there's a few in the family then at 10 bucks a pop it can end up being expensive for a small show.
Much the pity, because it has the venue to be the best show in NSW.
Maybe the key to bringing it up a notch is to allow/encourage all VWs to park in the paddock (as already mentioned). Compress the swap a bit so it's not so spread out.
With a big collection of dubs on the grass and the entered show cars inside it has the potential to be a great one.
Go for profit by numbers not by margin on the entry, drop the price and I'm sure you'll see more spectators. And it's spectators you want to keep sponsors interested.
Maybe reduce the number of trophies. It's quite a haul - even for a show that has double or triple the entrants. Is there really a need to have so many categories? Some things are just hangovers from the past.
Ditch the bands. Bands at car shows just don't work unless they are seriously good and put on a show that people will stay for without looking back to the cars for 45minutes to an hour. A band at a car show should encourage spectators to stay for the whole day and be a break from looking at car, not move away from the cars if they don't like the music... once they go outside what's going to stop them going all the way back to their car and off to somewhere else?
Make the spectators and sponsors judges. Very few successful car shows these days have only one people's choice. More and more they have the major awards being public choice, an award by each sponsor and a few chosen by the promoters.
Best of luck for the future. I will be back and hope to see greater numbers attending both as entrants and spectators.
I wouldn't say it is entirely the clubs fault.
However, while numbers are down I can understand people not going for a look. If there's a few in the family then at 10 bucks a pop it can end up being expensive for a small show.
Much the pity, because it has the venue to be the best show in NSW.
Maybe the key to bringing it up a notch is to allow/encourage all VWs to park in the paddock (as already mentioned). Compress the swap a bit so it's not so spread out.
With a big collection of dubs on the grass and the entered show cars inside it has the potential to be a great one.
Go for profit by numbers not by margin on the entry, drop the price and I'm sure you'll see more spectators. And it's spectators you want to keep sponsors interested.
Maybe reduce the number of trophies. It's quite a haul - even for a show that has double or triple the entrants. Is there really a need to have so many categories? Some things are just hangovers from the past.
Ditch the bands. Bands at car shows just don't work unless they are seriously good and put on a show that people will stay for without looking back to the cars for 45minutes to an hour. A band at a car show should encourage spectators to stay for the whole day and be a break from looking at car, not move away from the cars if they don't like the music... once they go outside what's going to stop them going all the way back to their car and off to somewhere else?
Make the spectators and sponsors judges. Very few successful car shows these days have only one people's choice. More and more they have the major awards being public choice, an award by each sponsor and a few chosen by the promoters.
Best of luck for the future. I will be back and hope to see greater numbers attending both as entrants and spectators.
split09 Slammed & Awesome Dubber
99 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·
I couldnt have said it any better, no really, im crap a speeches!!
How bout you organize it HRM
How bout you organize it HRM
watever
ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell
3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·
ok what about all the photos i dont like all the reading🤪,
like the post says photos of the show😂😂
like the post says photos of the show😂😂
😂🤪😂🤪😂
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲
Pumba Veteran Volks Folk
2,138 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·
I agree with with matt 100%, and i will be there next year cheers shane.
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
I'm busy with this...split09 wrote:I couldnt have said it any better, no really, im crap a speeches!!
How bout you organize it HRM
barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
9,476 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
dude pull your head in. just cause someone makes a comment doesnt mean you have to take offense. take it on board and back to the committee and fix it dont lash backph billet wrote:split09 wrote:ph billet wrote:I DONT THINK WE WILL MISS YOUsilver wrote:I was there an Hour
I don't enter cars (too restrictive)
I don't want a trophy (they looked cheap, should have given everyone free hot dogs instead)
Swap meet was tiny
venue is stale
numbers way down
same old cars inside
vendors down
I think this event needs a freshen up
maybe find a Venue closer to the city
and do they really have to give trophies? give everyone a event shirt instead or a sticker yay!
I dont see a reason to go next year 🙁
same old same old
Silver
Indeed i think you will. For if he does not go and has other vw friends im sure that they will not go and it has me convinced that it may be my last as well, and have been going for the last 10 years and its always the same cars, and this year was a very poor crowd. I already know 5 other people who will not be going anymore, do i see a snowball coming????
I see a whinger comming ,how many car shows have you organized?
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Next issue of VWMA...ian.mezz wrote:ok what about all the photos i dont like all the reading🤪,
like the post says photos of the show😂😂
I'll post a couple as teasers in a day or two.
split09 Slammed & Awesome Dubber
99 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·
Nice, ill try and go, see if i can get me bro to take his 37 ford there.HotRodMatt wrote:I'm busy with this...split09 wrote:I couldnt have said it any better, no really, im crap a speeches!!
How bout you organize it HRM
watever