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grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#701837
hi, anyone cut up the rear of their oval to fit a bigger motor, without wrecking it and making it easy to put back to standard. .....grogy

rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#701841
no way my vw engine goes fast enough for an oval

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#701906
that oval is really cut, i was just lookin at the rear area round tappet covers, its too narrow. i just took out a 1600 and what ajob, , just not enuf room. so if i put in something with long rods and stroke................

rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#701989
I don't know what you mean there's pleanty of room my engine's been out a couple of times no worries. Just have to take the twin carbs off before.

It's just a barstard to change the spark plugs with the twin carbs.

Just keep it as it is how often would you be taking the engine in and out anyway.

Your 1600 should be just as easy to get out it's a bit of a tight fit but it's not something that you do every day.
grogy wrote:that oval is really cut, i was just lookin at the rear area round tappet covers, its too narrow. i just took out a 1600 and what ajob, , just not enuf room. so if i put in something with long rods and stroke................

vwsteve karmann crazy

2,087 posts · joined Jul 2006 ·

#701991
one of my long term projects is a 56 oval, front and rear are cut off for a baja conversion and it will also get a factory ragtop welded in, its on an irs pan, body lift kit,kombi box,raised susp and type 4 engine conversion,that shouls ster up the purists😂
1 1963 356b porsche coupe
2 1960 karmann ghia cab
1 1965 karmann ghia cab
1 1966 karmann cab
1 1961 split ute
1 1967 split p/van
1 1952 standard bug
1 1963 ragtop
1 1960 ragtop
2 1954 ovals
1 1956 oval baja project
1 1957 oval flying flea

rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#701993
you is funny
😂😂

rexy wrote:one of my long term projects is a 56 oval, front and rear are cut off for a baja conversion and it will also get a factory ragtop welded in, its on an irs pan, body lift kit,kombi box,raised susp and type 4 engine conversion,that shouls ster up the purists😂

rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#701995
Pic of my engine bay

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#702002
i only had single carb on the 1600, and i had to take off the tappet covers..... what stroke and rod length is on the motor in the pic. thanks grogy..... rexy can cut his up cause he got shed full of em

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#702009
thanks, yea thats pretty much it, do u know what size stroke n rods that motor has. i think i'll have to completely remove the inner section where that one has the tappet covers touching.

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#702013
They're not touching grogy, that's where he has cut away to get clearance. If you cut away any more than the bare minimum you will weaken the bumper support bracket.

By the way the pic is vw54's car.

Regards,

Matt.


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rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#702016
the engine drops out under the car you don't have to take the tappet covers off to get the engine out.

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#702017
maybe they all bit diff, with mine the tappet covers are hard against the inside of car the bottom studs are still slightly inside the trans, the spigot shaft is just clearing the thrust. i have to wriggle motor back, drop the jack abit and keep doin it as its hard agains the valance all the way out as i lower the jack, also putting pressure on the bottom engine studs as they havent cleared the trans. very tight fit, and thats just with a standard 1600.

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#702019
its on a later pan also with irs trans, not sure if this brings the motor further back

rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#702020
its tight you do need some leavers that's normal
grogy wrote:maybe they all bit diff, with mine the tappet covers are hard against the inside of car the bottom studs are still slightly inside the trans, the spigot shaft is just clearing the thrust. i have to wriggle motor back, drop the jack abit and keep doin it as its hard agains the valance all the way out as i lower the jack, also putting pressure on the bottom engine studs as they havent cleared the trans. very tight fit, and thats just with a standard 1600.

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#702044
I normally have to have my distributor out and fan belt off too. It just gives me a tad more room to clear the bottom case studs and spigot shaft, of course to go back that little bit you have to be on enough of an angle to be clear at the rockers.

I'm sure over time the threads of the case studs will clearance the holes in the gearbox as they always come out covered in filings. When it gets to that point I might start using nylock nuts at the bottom.

It's an adventure every time my engine comes out. Sometimes I struggle with it for ages, other times it practically falls out. Same when going back in.

I don't have any clearance cuts and it's a 1300 twinport (same dimensions as 1600) in a '61 beetle.




Regards,

Matt.


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Gringo_54_oval Officially Full-On Dubber

240 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#702125
get hold of a porta power and pump out the bits that touch your rocker covers.might have alil more room for your engine

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#702414
thats agood idea, but i think i have to cut away... as the rods n stroke will add about 20mm to the width . but i suppose its already on later pan, so more mods wont make a lot of diff.

66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#702454
rexy wrote:one of my long term projects is a 56 oval, front and rear are cut off for a baja conversion and it will also get a factory ragtop welded in, its on an irs pan, body lift kit,kombi box,raised susp and type 4 engine conversion,that shouls ster up the purists😂
Don't do that to the oval, do it to your 356 Porsche instead.🤪
This is my Volkswagen, there are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me my Volkswagen is useless, without my Volkswagen, I am useless.

61 Karmann Ghia 2110cc type1 w Los Panchito's
66 Deluxe Beetle 2270 type 4
10 Subaru WRX Impreza

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#702534
I have chopped my 54 up a bit.
I asked myself the same question but my answer always came back to, why would I ever change it back. it's not like they are ever going to be worth a massive amount of money.
T54





These are getting shaped in to alloy for my injection to clear.





Tight fit but it fits
C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#702610
thats a nice lookin bug u got there. is your valance bolt in/out ,or still original

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#702618
Heath, that air intake position worries me, i have a oberg filter mounted there and the amount of tar and small rocks and other crap built up on top of it every couple of months is my concern for you (yeah i have seen the other pics with your filter)

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#702630
🤘.........oh no, you should never cut up an oval..........🥲







grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#702636
wow thats nearly as nice as mine

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#702647
Evil photos Daimo!! 😠

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#702655
well, i did the last bit...........BUT some evil man by the name of Ross Freestone took the roof skin for some "drag" car named something like "hound dog" back in the early ninties..........better hunt him down🥲

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#702671
I guess we will let that one pass then ... 🥷

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#702688
hellbugged wrote:🤘.........oh no, you should never cut up an oval..........🥲
atleast the parts are going to save another

unlike dropping a boulder on one for shits and giggles