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Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#726360
I've got a Tru-shift 5 speed gearbox which I bought a long time ago as a complete box, only it had been disassembled.
The reason it was disassembled was because it was creeping forward when in neutral, apparently it needs clearancing between the gears.
The original plan was to build the box as a close ratio 5 speed. But then I found out that these boxes don't handle horsepower very well. So I canned the idea and it has sat in the shed ever since.
I've since acquired a near std 76 bug which I use as a daily driver, problem is the gearbox is sad and it's starting to make a few growling noises.
So I was thinking of having the gears clearance'd and the box re-assembled, and using it in my 76'.

I'm interested in opinions on weather or not this is worth doing, ideas on costs and who can do this kind of thing.
I don't want to spend anymore on this than I have too.

Cheers,
Andrew

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#726362
Dave Butler!! Ask him, cause word on this street says he is one of the best!

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#726367
If I had a 5 speed like your's Daimo it'd be going in my other 76'.

Hopefully Dave will chime in here or I'll PM him.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#726371
i think you need a 3 bar Kafer kit for your car Gracey..................and i know someone who can help !👍


hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#726375
any pics of your car around Gracey?

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#726389
I would like to have a look at your trans.

I cant say that I will be the cheapest person to do your trans,
but you will get much more for the dollars spent.

I dont think you will find anyone who is as passionate as I am about the Volksy transaxles.

As with any VW trans, best to do a price estimate after a thorough inspection.

The tru-shift had either "press on" or "screw-on" shaft extensions,
so unless these run "true" there may be problems there.

I am sure someything can be done to make it all work.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#726453
hellbugged wrote:any pics of your car around Gracey?
None on the forum or my current computer, I'll have to fire up the old abacus I think I've got a few photo's on there.

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#726454
dangerous wrote:I would like to have a look at your trans.

I cant say that I will be the cheapest person to do your trans,
but you will get much more for the dollars spent.

I dont think you will find anyone who is as passionate as I am about the Volksy transaxles.

As with any VW trans, best to do a price estimate after a thorough inspection.

The tru-shift had either "press on" or "screw-on" shaft extensions,
so unless these run "true" there may be problems there.

I am sure someything can be done to make it all work.
Thanks for the response Dave.
I'm not after the cheapest quote, I just don't want to throw money at something thats destined to fail. I think value for money is the correct term.
I think this one has screw on shafts but I'm not 100% sure.
I'd be happy to leave it with you to have a look at.

If you want to PM me your contact details and the best time to call, we can take it from there.

Cheers,
Andrew

spdterence Seriously Crusin Dubber

143 posts · joined May 2008 ·

#730147
I am really intrigued by these 5 speeds. how do they work? Are they converted from a std 4 speed? Will they handle a mild 1776? Whats the cost if I have a good IRS unit now? Terry
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Today:
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Tomorrow
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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#730148
spdterence wrote:I am really intrigued by these 5 speeds. how do they work? Are they converted from a std 4 speed? Will they handle a mild 1776? Whats the cost if I have a good IRS unit now? Terry
work well.......yes....... yes....... lot$

spdterence Seriously Crusin Dubber

143 posts · joined May 2008 ·

#730152
Kaarn - lots is how much? $3000 / $5000??
Has anyone used a two speed diff? to give you a different final ratio? I think some old Mitsubishi Colts had a two speed diff no? Terry
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Today:
Aussie 69 IRS pan Brazilian curves
1916cc of Stans magic
Fat boy stainless extractors
Craig & Tims 3 bar stiffy

Tomorrow
Cooookies
Better brakes

bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 ·

#730167
doesn't the penrose boys use these in drag cars with small mods??? Wollongong....
want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#730303
spdterence wrote:I am really intrigued by these 5 speeds. how do they work? Are they converted from a std 4 speed? Will they handle a mild 1776? Whats the cost if I have a good IRS unit now? Terry
The Tru-shift kit converts a four speed to five by the use of shaft extensions and an extended housing on the end of the box.
According to the people I've spoken to they should be okay for motor up to about 100hp at the wheels, this isn't confirmed just an educated guess.
Cost of the kits when new (there no longer available) was $1295 from memory. Then add the cost of having it built onto an existing box, fixing anything that on that box or reconditioning it, and then any performance mods to the box eg. close gears, super diff, heavy duty this and that.
Pretty soon the costs add up, so it's pretty hard to give a price, due to all the factors involved.

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#730305
If anyones interested, I'd consider selling my kit with the IRS box that it was built into as it's not suitable for anything that I have.
I've got a near stock 1600 76' Bug which I don't think is worth putting a 5 speed into, and my other 76' will probably be way to much for the box to handle, not worth the risk in my opinion.
I'll take what I paid for it $500.00 as is.

spdterence Seriously Crusin Dubber

143 posts · joined May 2008 ·

#731431
Hey Gracey - PM sent. Forget the second one, I re-read the thread properly Terry 😊
Smile - It confuses people😀

Today:
Aussie 69 IRS pan Brazilian curves
1916cc of Stans magic
Fat boy stainless extractors
Craig & Tims 3 bar stiffy

Tomorrow
Cooookies
Better brakes

spdterence Seriously Crusin Dubber

143 posts · joined May 2008 ·

#732247
http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?cPath=13_387

Here is a comment from Gene Berg re the 5 speed. makes interesting reading I thought.

Terry
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Today:
Aussie 69 IRS pan Brazilian curves
1916cc of Stans magic
Fat boy stainless extractors
Craig & Tims 3 bar stiffy

Tomorrow
Cooookies
Better brakes

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#732257
I find this comment funny...

Quote : "Interesting that the factory Porsche and late 091 bus 5 speeds have the exact same design as ours"

Um Mr Berg don't you mean that YOU copied the design from Porsche !😂


bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 ·

#732259
makes you wonder if he is in Porsche Heaven now?
want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#732410
No,
all sales men go straight to hell.

..."gee, thats a bit harsh!"
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#732432
dangerous wrote:No,
all sales men go straight to hell.

..."gee, thats a bit harsh!"
😂


bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 ·

#732481
why, what are u selling?
want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!