Most amount of HP under 2L VW Flat Four

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 3 Nov 2009, 7:34 pm

#745025

Gumley runs 500Hp at the wheels from his supercharged kombi motor........standard crank and bore, standard VW head castings (although they get changed a tiny ltille bit 😎).......

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 3 Nov 2009, 7:46 pm

#745031

Stanley wrote:[quote
Just like the old axe.
Its had five handles and five heads,
but it is still the same axe.

😂

.........nice

IMO....HP is a pissing contest.

Its worth is in tuning but the real test is on the track

My 1600 has bugger all HP but bugger all weight, but can hold it's head up at the track so I really don't care how much HP it has. [/quote]

So in your case your time down the quarter is YOUR pissing contest 😂.......whether you're chasing a time or a HP figure, its the challenge of seeing how you can do it better in my books.😎

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 4 Nov 2009, 5:22 am

#745121

BeetleJuice wrote:It is also believed that German engineers urinated on the blocks as well!
Sword makers in the middle ages would quench their swords in urine to make them stronger.

Urine has high levels of ammonia which contains nitrogen....Nitriding!🤪

Better on the blocks, than in that Sour Kraut.
Who invented "pissing in the cabbage and call it food"??!!😂

That stuff stinks.

A scene at the McDonalds in Berlin:

Helmut asks his supervisor:
"We're running low on Sour Kraut for the Um-lout Burgers Sir".

Helmut's supevisor, Shvatzy says:
"Quick Helmut, piss on that cabbage and leave it out in the sun!"

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 4 Nov 2009, 5:25 am

#745122

Note how I have combined humour and the topic of pissing.

OH!, hang on, it was all about Volksys wasn't it.

Oh well.

Since we shifted across to boosted engines,
my 1775cc blower engine made 275hp with 7.25 comp and 28psi.
It ran as quick as 10.65 @126.8mph and weighed nearly 800kgs.(1750lbs)

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 4 Nov 2009, 5:29 am

#745123

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:
dangerous wrote:
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:365 000k's,

good one brennden.
"i rebuilt it five times but its got 365k on the speedo".

My white beetle has more miles on it than that.
"and I have never split the case"

Just like the old axe.
Its had five handles and five heads,
but it is still the same axe.

😂
365 000k's on that engine when i dropped a valve. case hasn't been split since it was built. All I did was repair the damaged head and replace exhaust valves, one damaged piston and rings.

So in my books it is STILL the same engine as all i have done was repair the damage. If it had a total rebuild then it would be a new engine so obviously that isn't the case.....

I thought it had a non stock cam?

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 · 4 Nov 2009, 9:17 pm

#745302

yeah hydraulic cam about a 30/70 has been in there since the day it was built.

ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE

Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 5 Nov 2009, 8:54 am

#745350

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:yeah hydraulic cam about a 30/70 has been in there since the day it was built.

So are you saying,
it has done 365000 kays on that cam since it has been ground,
three out of the four rods and pistons,
and those heads since they were ported?😂

Yeah, my pauter engine has done more kays than that,
since the dizzy drive is from 1960 1200cc.😂

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 5 Nov 2009, 8:56 am

#745351

fish26 wrote:What's the most amount of HP you have got out of a VW engine thats 2L or smaller and the COMBINATION used? C'mon fellas tell us your secrets.

1641cc 82HP ATW
311 heads home ported stock valves
W120, 1:1.25
8.5:1 comp

What carbs/venturis are you using Ben?

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 · 5 Nov 2009, 10:59 am

#745364

dangerous wrote:
fish26 wrote:What's the most amount of HP you have got out of a VW engine thats 2L or smaller and the COMBINATION used? C'mon fellas tell us your secrets.

1641cc 82HP ATW
311 heads home ported stock valves
W120, 1:1.25
8.5:1 comp
What carbs/venturis are you using Ben?

pair 36IDF w/28mm vents, match ported manifolds
working on a 1678cc old school single port

bitten by the bug..........several times

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 · 5 Nov 2009, 11:01 am

#745365

Sick68VW wrote:When i used to run my 68 1500 street car i had 140.2 rwhp out of a 2007
48idas
berg heads
fk89
9.5.1
carrlio rods

Hey sicko, hows your other engine coming?

bitten by the bug..........several times

typethreeking Wolfsburg Wizard

621 posts · joined May 2008 · 5 Nov 2009, 6:34 pm

#745406

365000km since the car came out of the factory maybe, if you could get that many k's out of a volkys motor you would probably be the only person on earth, 165000km is more like it...

BEING ASPIRATED FEELS GREAT BUT BEING BLOWN TAKES THING TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL....

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 5 Nov 2009, 10:08 pm

#745477

[/quote]

pair 36IDF w/28mm vents, match ported manifolds
working on a 1678cc old school single port [/quote]

A pair of dual throat webers on a single port?
Are you sure?
I mean in theory it's possible but I've never seen that before!

westi what the

1,610 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 5 Nov 2009, 10:34 pm

#745482

duno what my old shit did.but when i biuld the apprentices engine i will let you know.
1916 with about 160atw is the goal.but after seeing the might mouse i am thinking of trying to crack the 200 mark,.i wouldn't mind giving it a crack anyway.
so far i got crank ,block.maybe a cam or two laying around with low k's on them,you could say they were only driven on sunday's.lol.
gota order some heads ,carbies,rod's,who know's maybe a roller cam for the young padawon,depends on his cash flow.oh and a car to put it in.
n/a all the way.

down sharon.

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 · 5 Nov 2009, 11:30 pm

#745491

pair 36IDF w/28mm vents, match ported manifolds
working on a 1678cc old school single port [/quote]

A pair of dual throat webers on a single port?
Are you sure?
I mean in theory it's possible but I've never seen that before! [/quote]

no, the twin 36s were on the 1641 double penetration 311 headjob,

currently working on 1678 with sp100 semi-hemi single port also match ported will run baby dells or turbo w/2 1/2" SU draw through and locked Mag, gb310,
empi 88mm Birals, Pauter crank wedgemate to 180mm 10lb flywheel, stock rods, all balanced.
hoping 110hp n/a, 150hp turbo

bitten by the bug..........several times

Yogie Moderator Custom Title Time!

1,610 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 6 Nov 2009, 2:51 pm

#745640

typethreeking wrote:365000km since the car came out of the factory maybe, if you could get that many k's out of a volkys motor you would probably be the only person on earth, 165000km is more like it...

We built a new 1600c engine back in 93 for our beetle and it has done 185,000 since then and is going great still. At the 155k mark, we restored the car but the engine only had the heads tidied up a bit and that was it.

Yogie

typethreeking Wolfsburg Wizard

621 posts · joined May 2008 · 6 Nov 2009, 3:20 pm

#745642

hey yogie, i sure if the car is driven steady it would last plenty long enough, but i know how brennden drives his kombi, nothing under 6000rpm most times he drives it or till the lifters pump up and thats no joke, he canes the crap out of it all the time so to last as long as it has is pretty good.

BEING ASPIRATED FEELS GREAT BUT BEING BLOWN TAKES THING TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL....

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 6 Nov 2009, 6:18 pm

#745670

hellbugged wrote:Gumley runs 500Hp at the wheels from his supercharged kombi motor........standard crank and bore, standard VW head castings (although they get changed a tiny ltille bit 😎).......

yeah gumley is da man

dangerous wrote:
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:yeah hydraulic cam about a 30/70 has been in there since the day it was built.
So are you saying,
it has done 365000 kays on that cam since it has been ground,
three out of the four rods and pistons,
and those heads since they were ported?😂

Yeah, my pauter engine has done more kays than that,
since the dizzy drive is from 1960 1200cc.😂

lol hey my key ring is from a dub that had 400000
so i win 😉

BUY A REAL BUG A PRE S BUG...

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 7 Nov 2009, 9:32 am

#745796

typethreeking wrote:365000km since the car came out of the factory maybe, if you could get that many k's out of a volkys motor you would probably be the only person on earth, 165000km is more like it...

My WBXR has 361 000km, does that count??

Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

westi what the

1,610 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 7 Nov 2009, 12:13 pm

#745836

my golf has done 260000+.at it still coping every day of it's life,but i think we may be getting of the topic alittle,who care's how long it last's,as long as it's quick.reliabilty comes later.you don't get faster without pushing the envelope.

down sharon.

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 · 8 Nov 2009, 6:46 am

#746028

dangerous wrote:
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:yeah hydraulic cam about a 30/70 has been in there since the day it was built.
So are you saying,
it has done 365000 kays on that cam since it has been ground,
three out of the four rods and pistons,
and those heads since they were ported?😂

Yeah, my pauter engine has done more kays than that,
since the dizzy drive is from 1960 1200cc.😂

365 000k's on that cam since it was ground. All the rods are the rods that were put in it when it was rebuilt and are the original rods from that engine in the car. 3 of the 4 pistons are the pistons that were put in it when it was rebuilt waaaay back in about 1995. The heads are the same heads ported that were put on the engine when it was built. One of the heads is off the original motor out of my bus and one is an AMC to replace the original one that was destroyed when it dropped a valve at 100km'hr with 1600 gearing.

The original engine out of my bus when it finally died was all original. VW rings, pistons, valves etc etc. All the rods,crank, case and one of the heads are all the original engine. Cam was a new billet grind when the engine was first built.

When i was detailing I was averaging 1000-1200km's a week. Oil changes were about every 4-5 weeks.

And yes as Troy said it copped a fair hiding most of it's life whilst lugging around all my detailing gear hence why I am a fan of the type 4 engine.....

ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE

Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 8 Nov 2009, 9:40 am

#746051

my 68 beetle has the original (untouched) 1500 in it with a full documented service history....its 174,000 miles 😎

......sorry back to the topic 😁

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 · 8 Nov 2009, 11:10 am

#746071

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:
dangerous wrote:
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:yeah hydraulic cam about a 30/70 has been in there since the day it was built.
So are you saying,
it has done 365000 kays on that cam since it has been ground,
three out of the four rods and pistons,
and those heads since they were ported?😂

Yeah, my pauter engine has done more kays than that,
since the dizzy drive is from 1960 1200cc.😂

365 000k's on that cam since it was ground. All the rods are the rods that were put in it when it was rebuilt and are the original rods from that engine in the car. 3 of the 4 pistons are the pistons that were put in it when it was rebuilt waaaay back in about 1995. The heads are the same heads ported that were put on the engine when it was built. One of the heads is off the original motor out of my bus and one is an AMC to replace the original one that was destroyed when it dropped a valve at 100km'hr with 1600 gearing.

The original engine out of my bus when it finally died was all original. VW rings, pistons, valves etc etc. All the rods,crank, case and one of the heads are all the original engine. Cam was a new billet grind when the engine was first built.

When i was detailing I was averaging 1000-1200km's a week. Oil changes were about every 4-5 weeks.

And yes as Troy said it copped a fair hiding most of it's life whilst lugging around all my detailing gear hence why I am a fan of the type 4 engine.....

read the topic, stick to it.

bitten by the bug..........several times