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71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743182
What does it mean if my gearstick moves back and forth while in gear when i accelerate and then back off. Like if i give it too it it will pull backwards and then when i ease off it moves forwards again.

Help is appreciated

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#743183
your front gearbox mount is stuffed (at the nosecone of the gearbox).


Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#743186
depends on how handy you are ?

Its not hard, but it is a bit of a PITA.


Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#743190
Depends on what mount you have at the font as well

I replaced mine and 2 months later it was moving again

That is why i put a Berg style semi ridgid gear box mount in
Futue te ipsum!!!

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743194
How can i tel what mount ive got.

I would call myself pretty handy, pulled a 64 engine with one jack and a mechancis trolley, with a few bits and pieces.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#743195


That is my late style

That is the "new" mount and it is rubbish
Futue te ipsum!!!

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#743196
Craig Torrens wrote:your front gearbox mount is stuffed (at the nosecone of the gearbox).
oh yeah! I've got that issue.... getting quite nasty too.....

Lucky clutch replacement time is getting closer... all mounts at once 🙂

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743199
Okay, so i will get under my car tomoro and check it out. Dont really wanna have it off the road at all. What damage am i doing to the car by still driving it

LUFTMEISTER Veteran Volks Folk

2,041 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#743216
get some thick long cable ties and tie the mount together till you are able to fix it (sooner rather than later) temp fix only. and do not take off quickly from a standing start.
Customer service is not dead in Australia.

Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743223
Ive got some cable ties that they use for air con ducts, will they be okay. And can do that. Would it be okay if didnt fix it for like 7 weeks

LUFTMEISTER Veteran Volks Folk

2,041 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#743378
do not know how long the temp fix will hold. monitor daily. try to repair ASAP.
Customer service is not dead in Australia.

Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743393
Will do, its gettting a service soon so might get it done then

shaihulud Custom Title Time!

1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#743478
You will almost certainly have to move the entire engine and gearbox assembly to replace that mounting.

It's a bugger of a job.

The first mechanic who crawled under a Kubbelwagen in the mud and slush of a battlefield, to replace that engine mount must have done the most almighty dummy spit about that.

It's one of those things that should have been fixed decades before the Type 3 version.

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743486
OKay, well is there a stronger mount to get or is there only one type of mount for 71s

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#743493
71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:OKay, well is there a stronger mount to get or is there only one type of mount for 71s
A stock one is fine you have to think, its only 38 years old is was going to break sooner or later🤪😂🤪
😂🤪😂🤪😂
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743497
Yeah good point. I was thinking about getting a kafer bar, 5 bar one, would it be sensible to mount this at the same time. Also should i do the onther mounts as well?

djnee Officially Full-On Dubber

341 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743499
I had the same problem when i had my Beetle in the 90's.
ran it for ages with the mount gone. if i remember right we managed to get the new mount in without taking the motor out
It May Never End

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743567
I wa planing on taking the motor out and then moving the trans back a bit so thats good to hear

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#743568
ian.mezz wrote:
71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:OKay, well is there a stronger mount to get or is there only one type of mount for 71s
A stock one is fine you have to think, its only 38 years old is was going to break sooner or later🤪😂🤪
That is my whole point

I dont believe you can get original quality new ones.

The one in my pic is only a month or so old and it is shot

I jst said - stuff it and went the brace method
Futue te ipsum!!!

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#743592
Im getting under the car no to put new exhaust on, im keen so ill check it out and if i can squeeze a cmaera under with me ill get some pics

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#745724
Would a stuffed front mount also cause the car to shake sometimes, like on a flat road it feels like a wheel is loose or something, but they are all tight?

LUFTMEISTER Veteran Volks Folk

2,041 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#745726
check your rear spline nuts. if there is a rusty dust around drum center, means they are moving in & out. need to retighten to required torque.
Customer service is not dead in Australia.

Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#745727
Are they the ones holding the drums on?

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#745755
71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:OKay, well is there a stronger mount to get or is there only one type of mount for 71s
Hi
are We talking Engine/gearbox mounts????

most are rubbish... I had two that lasted 2 years or about 200 kms... lol
I may buy some US made mounts next time..

or You can always buy the red urethane ones...
which should last... for ages..

I've been working on a way to change engine mounts with out taking the engine out...

LEE

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71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#745759
Craig Torrens wrote:your front gearbox mount is stuffed (at the nosecone of the gearbox).

Its the front one, i was just wondering if i should replace it with a stronger one or if it can only be replaced by the excat same part

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#745768
Years (about 48) ago I made a temporary front mount fix by drilling a 10mm hole right through, and fitted a M10 bolt and Nylock nut to hold the mount together. When the nut was tightened - slightly - it looked like a Vanilla Slice being squeezed, but it worked! Like a lot of 'temporary fixes' it stayed that way for quite a while. The gear lever didn't move, the only down side was a bit more noise was transmitted into the car.
Those red mounts are rubbish. They crumbled very quickly in my 'blackish' '59 Beetle, and I have now solid-mounted the engine.

Cheers, Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#745772
HappyDaze wrote:Those red mounts are rubbish. They crumbled very quickly in my 'blackish' '59 Beetle, and I have now solid-mounted the engine.

Cheers, Greg
precisely why i wont use them anymore either
i hate to think what the currrent day empi ones are like
i had bugpack ones about 12 years ago in my first bug and they didnt last that long and were certainly no better than OEM rubber ones

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#745801
So i need a new one of these? is this the front gearbow mount?


ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#745819
yes if the old one is broken.
😂🤪😂🤪😂
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲