Sell it.71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:Whatcha gunna do with the 1776.
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
The Subabeetle project
71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh
1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·
OKay, whats it gunna come with, i may be keen.
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
PM joel and he will let you know. 🙂
BulletBug Learner Dubber
11 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·
yahoo!!! keep it goin joel... wonder how if u decided to go ej20... 👍
mackaymanx Custom Title Time!
1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·
rocknrob, have you considered how your thermostat is going to sense the water temterature with that setup. You have no flow of water past the thermostat.
Quote of the week
"Do I wish to send them to you again, nope, no interest can't be bothered really, to much hassle for little or no return."
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"Do I wish to send them to you again, nope, no interest can't be bothered really, to much hassle for little or no return."
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rocknrob Insano Dub Head
844 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
Hi (excuse me joel) yeah it will receive hot water same as any thermostat...it will be at the hotwater outlet of the engine and enough water flow thru the little trickle hole so its not a dead end...and it will get a realistic temperature compared to at the inlet
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
dont be saying that, i'd probably be put up for adoptioncolonel mustard wrote:Nice one joel! Now the subaru parts collection starts....
after 15 years my bug/s still live in the shed in town at mum and dads along with too many vws in pieces
if i bring them out here to my place they have to live in the tractor shed and the rats use them as night clubs
but on the subject of parts any one want an authentic subaru paper wieght?
runs well if u only drive 2mins to the shops 😂
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
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Robs thermostat setup will work well if the original heater loop is in place as a bypass when its shut
that makes it just the same setup as most cars have with the 'stat on the hot side of the engine
just as long as the spring side is toward the engine so it can sense how hot the water coming from the block is
i was thinking of going this way as well but thought i'd give the stock setup a try first
im surprised how well it works actually
i was worried about the engine getting cold shocks but watching the temp gauge i could see it doing exactly what brad said they do
to get up temp really quick it just circulates the water around the engine only then as it starts to heat up it just keeps sipping cold from the radiator return
as i wasnt driving there was no air through the radiator so it just kept doing this till all the cold was used up then the fan cut in for about 3 mins
incidently does anyone know the cut in/out temps for the fan?
both motors were identical to the degree
on at 103 and off at 98 which i know isnt the stock so im trying to work out how off my gauge is reading
it sat on about 87 till the 'stat opened and given its a 78c 'stat im guessing my gauge is about 10c too high
that makes it just the same setup as most cars have with the 'stat on the hot side of the engine
just as long as the spring side is toward the engine so it can sense how hot the water coming from the block is
i was thinking of going this way as well but thought i'd give the stock setup a try first
im surprised how well it works actually
i was worried about the engine getting cold shocks but watching the temp gauge i could see it doing exactly what brad said they do
to get up temp really quick it just circulates the water around the engine only then as it starts to heat up it just keeps sipping cold from the radiator return
as i wasnt driving there was no air through the radiator so it just kept doing this till all the cold was used up then the fan cut in for about 3 mins
incidently does anyone know the cut in/out temps for the fan?
both motors were identical to the degree
on at 103 and off at 98 which i know isnt the stock so im trying to work out how off my gauge is reading
it sat on about 87 till the 'stat opened and given its a 78c 'stat im guessing my gauge is about 10c too high
STIDUB Over it.
1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·
...that paperweight looks like strange bubble top case, hang onto it, find some BIG p&b's, make the fan & tinware fit.... instant OHC'd 2-3L aircooled 😂
Volkswagen Drivers Club of Queensland - member 🙂
STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress
Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.
The above are personal views, no more, no less
STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress
Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.
The above are personal views, no more, no less
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
Ha! subaru Oxyboxer 👍
that'll sort the overheating problem 😂
that'll sort the overheating problem 😂
ElusiveStranger Officially Full-On Dubber
330 posts · joined May 2006 ·
*Boomy voice*Baja Wes wrote:yeah Joel, good to see you staying on the path to darkness 🙂
The Force is strong in this one!
Gotta say I'm laughing over here. Joel didn't want to come over to the Darkside, had a small tinker then loves it.
Glad he found a cheap replacement 👍
PS this thread is funny
kombibob AKA: Volkswagen Type 2 Transporter Van Robert
1,698 posts · joined May 2004 ·
Nice one Joel👍
just a couple of weeks until Ashes folks come over from W.A. with our EJ22 and kit, but it will no longer be going in Mildred 😉
just a couple of weeks until Ashes folks come over from W.A. with our EJ22 and kit, but it will no longer be going in Mildred 😉
1961 swb buggy
1960 karmann ghia
1963 Single Cab: "El Concreto"
1963 bent 23 window " Frieda Samba "
1963 Eriba Faun camper " Cara Van daCamp"
2012 Skoda Octavia scout
Get down low and go,go,go
1960 karmann ghia
1963 Single Cab: "El Concreto"
1963 bent 23 window " Frieda Samba "
1963 Eriba Faun camper " Cara Van daCamp"
2012 Skoda Octavia scout
Get down low and go,go,go
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
nice one bob, we gonna see all the purists crying at a subi powered split?
well 2:30 this arvo and still 36c and F'King hot!
but i decided what the hell and gingerly went on a maiden voyage run 20km out the bangalow/byron bay road
the new thermostat is certainly doing its job but its abit un-nerving seeing the temp gauge hit 90 within the first 1-2KM
the old motor used to take a good 5-10KM or so before it hit those kinda temps but for those that read my VWKD thread it was cos the thermostat in it loooked like this
but once it got to 90 it pretty much stayed there varying between 90-95 which is really only 80-85 thanks to my innaccurate gauge
didnt get any hotter than that till i got back into town and slowed down to climb the big hill up to mum and dads place, even then it only hit about 98 which isnt that hot
fan didnt start till i got home and let it idle for about 4-5mins
im not giving this motor too much stick till its been running for a while as its been sitting for a quite a while but over all it doesnt feel any different to the other one but its certainly running well and much to my delight when i got back after the run the level in the overflow tank was exactly where i left it
the old motor used to raise it by several inches on a long trip then suck it back in overnight
i also noticed when i came back pulling from down low it pinged abit. it hasnt thrown the knock sensor code again but thats probably cos its not working
well 2:30 this arvo and still 36c and F'King hot!
but i decided what the hell and gingerly went on a maiden voyage run 20km out the bangalow/byron bay road
the new thermostat is certainly doing its job but its abit un-nerving seeing the temp gauge hit 90 within the first 1-2KM
the old motor used to take a good 5-10KM or so before it hit those kinda temps but for those that read my VWKD thread it was cos the thermostat in it loooked like this
but once it got to 90 it pretty much stayed there varying between 90-95 which is really only 80-85 thanks to my innaccurate gauge
didnt get any hotter than that till i got back into town and slowed down to climb the big hill up to mum and dads place, even then it only hit about 98 which isnt that hot
fan didnt start till i got home and let it idle for about 4-5mins
im not giving this motor too much stick till its been running for a while as its been sitting for a quite a while but over all it doesnt feel any different to the other one but its certainly running well and much to my delight when i got back after the run the level in the overflow tank was exactly where i left it
the old motor used to raise it by several inches on a long trip then suck it back in overnight
i also noticed when i came back pulling from down low it pinged abit. it hasnt thrown the knock sensor code again but thats probably cos its not working
rocknrob Insano Dub Head
844 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
Hey Joel you are going to love the sooby when you learn to trust it😂 but it is a bit of a worry this watercooled bit(don't tell the aircooled people🙅) probably telling you something you already know but after a while go back and tighten all your hose clamps...heheh don't ask me how i know😬
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
dont worry Rob, its the first thing i check after it cools down the first time
i can nearly always get an extra turn on each hose clamp after the first heat up/cool down cycle
the down side to this thread is your not seeing all the f**k ups i have, and theres been a few
had a doozy yesterday after i split a hose
i can nearly always get an extra turn on each hose clamp after the first heat up/cool down cycle
the down side to this thread is your not seeing all the f**k ups i have, and theres been a few
had a doozy yesterday after i split a hose
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
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i think the bug must be really pineing for forced induction again
the first subi motor had a really high pitched whine which sounded like a turbo spooling
so much so even an expeirenced subi mechanic thought it was a rexxy dub when i pulled up
i found when i pulledit down it was the bearings in the timing belt tensioner
but to add to the irony, this new motor is also whineing, but a much deeper one, that sounds alot like a supercharger
my camera has crap sound quality but u get the idea
its probably coming off the timing belt, i got a new one here to chuck on it, just havient got round to it yet, been enjoying being back on the road
got a dose of sunshine today at the northcoast christmas toyrun
dad and patrick got the trikes out so i thought what the hell, ill go for a pose
its funny the respect VWs get from all walks of life
i had people coming up all morning wanting to have look
the first subi motor had a really high pitched whine which sounded like a turbo spooling
so much so even an expeirenced subi mechanic thought it was a rexxy dub when i pulled up
i found when i pulledit down it was the bearings in the timing belt tensioner
but to add to the irony, this new motor is also whineing, but a much deeper one, that sounds alot like a supercharger
my camera has crap sound quality but u get the idea
its probably coming off the timing belt, i got a new one here to chuck on it, just havient got round to it yet, been enjoying being back on the road
got a dose of sunshine today at the northcoast christmas toyrun
dad and patrick got the trikes out so i thought what the hell, ill go for a pose
its funny the respect VWs get from all walks of life
i had people coming up all morning wanting to have look
71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh
1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·
At least we get to see a pic of it outside your garage now, not good bout that coolant but, at least its cause theyre over tight, better than loose i guess.
(and is that the 1776 with the white tinware)
(and is that the 1776 with the white tinware)
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
nah just for looks but shhhhh dont tell anyone71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:I like that exhaust too, is the pasengerside tailpipe actually doing anything?
71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh
1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·
At least we get to see a pic of it outside your garage now, not good bout that coolant but, at least its cause theyre over tight, better than loose i guess.
(and is that the 1776 with the white tinware)
(and is that the 1776 with the white tinware)
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
yea thats it sitting there going to waste
too snooty to sit over in the other corner with all the other motors lol
too snooty to sit over in the other corner with all the other motors lol
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
oh. I actually thought it did...Joel wrote:nah just for looks but shhhhh dont tell anyone
Nice shots with the trikes 🙂
STIDUB Over it.
1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·
Joel wrote:nah just for looks but shhhhh dont tell anyone71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:I like that exhaust too, is the pasengerside tailpipe actually doing anything?
but when it gets a whopping great big turbo on it, theres gunna be an external gate attached & its gunna scream out via that one!😂
joel just doesnt know it yet 😀
Volkswagen Drivers Club of Queensland - member 🙂
STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress
Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.
The above are personal views, no more, no less
STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress
Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.
The above are personal views, no more, no less
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
pffft screamer pipes belong at the track not on the street
I laugh at the dickheads with screamers on street reg'd cars
I laugh at the dickheads with screamers on street reg'd cars
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
thats because it runs... unlike the others. hahaha.Joel wrote:yea thats it sitting there going to waste
too snooty to sit over in the other corner with all the other motors lol
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
i was born without a soul so you will have to imagine it
$350 lighter now but my bug is again legal
only 2 changes required and dont even relate to the engine.
my front end needs raising cos it doesnt clear 100mm and my tacho needs relocating cos its illegal to have any gauges or accesories mounted ontop of the dash or the windscreen area
just the kick start i needed to begin on my custom dash i wanna build but for now it can go underneath
thanks to one of Ians secret tricks of the trade it snuck under the noise limit by 4dB
71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh
1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·
I cant wait till i get mine checked over, glad i mounted my tacho where i did, dunno how im gunna go with the noise limit but, what is the noise limit.
And is 100mm the lowest its legally gotta be?
And is 100mm the lowest its legally gotta be?
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
well, im glad i didnt mount the tacho yet!
Nice work Joel!!
Nice work Joel!!
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
dunno with yours being 71 but mine being 74 had ADR 25 and 27 on the compliance plate that it has to meet
pre 83 cars i think it was have to be under 94dB
we were able to make it abit easier though
the EJ22 like i have make 100KW @6000RPM
but he used the figures from the later ones which make 94KW @5400
the noise level has to be measured at 3/4 peak power so its only 3900RPM with the later ones which i "supposedly" have 😂
at 3900RPM it was only pumping out 83dB but thats with the mr mezz device in
whats interesting though is its actully louder at 3500rpm than it is at 4500rpm
must be the resonation from that stupid canon
re the lowereing rule, lowest part of the car exclusding the wheels cannot be any lower than 100mm
my coolant hoses were at 87mm at the front and my swaybar saddles were at 95mm
pre 83 cars i think it was have to be under 94dB
we were able to make it abit easier though
the EJ22 like i have make 100KW @6000RPM
but he used the figures from the later ones which make 94KW @5400
the noise level has to be measured at 3/4 peak power so its only 3900RPM with the later ones which i "supposedly" have 😂
at 3900RPM it was only pumping out 83dB but thats with the mr mezz device in
whats interesting though is its actully louder at 3500rpm than it is at 4500rpm
must be the resonation from that stupid canon
re the lowereing rule, lowest part of the car exclusding the wheels cannot be any lower than 100mm
my coolant hoses were at 87mm at the front and my swaybar saddles were at 95mm
71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh
1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·
Alright well i think mine is louder than that but will see cause its not to bad around half power.
100mm seems like a preety good height to have it sitting at anyways.
Is this one comin to the nationals?
100mm seems like a preety good height to have it sitting at anyways.
Is this one comin to the nationals?
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
more than likely
i think ill end up on a few peoples hit list if i dont come next year
i think ill end up on a few peoples hit list if i dont come next year