STIDUB - the neverending saga - shifter & rod mod/install!!!!

STIDUB · 2009-07-29T13:01:26+00:00

ive been asked, theres nothing too special to show currently but i figured i should make a start... http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/ brief yes but feel free to ask questions as i go along, hopefully some decent stuff happening real soon More updates later! (again not much time to post but ill try my best) UPDATE/ what im doing outline aim - street rego'd track capable arse kicking super! (ive told a mate ill go out to a drift night at qld raceway & have a go-dont laugh if i fail miserably) suspension: V-force adjuster struts camber/caster tops all new urethane bushings rebuilt steeringbox - i can do yours if you like new balljoints /tie rod ends flipped outer tie rods from Brad (topline kit) 28mm torsion bars -more of a rough guess from other conversions height adjuster from custom vee dub so i can raise/lower 4" easily - better than adjustable spring plates urethane springplate bushings I think that covers that part Trans: 091 based box LanD intermediate housing - to fit a bug nose cone, fits better & shifts better apparently, im yet to prove this, never driven a bus eventually a bunch of albins gears but not enough time/$$ currently RJES bellhousing - provided i suss out placement of a clutch mc < thats progressed to the point where its cut & weld time for people that are curious also on the wish list is moly output flanges cv's axles & stubs Brakes: VWCOOLS kit EA/EB falcon rears i believe custom front hubs - Vwcool 5x114.3 stud pattern all made for ease of replacment consumable parts all standard vw bearings & seals standard ford discs & pads who can complain about that? calipers on the front are vr ish era commodore, may change to something else after testing how they work using a 24mm kombi master, again need to play around making it fit with a hydraulic clutch mc, again may change this to bug, its all trial and error to get effective braking &decent pedal feel Engine... sti dub wouldnt be STIdub without a subie would it? what else... umm interior im yet to even start on but typical buckets, gauges & such, yet to dive into the electrics side of things Body... 71 superbeetle, we know what they look like aero guards from vvds clear lenses on early lights 76> front bumper with indicators ugly elephant foot tail lights - ive never seen a mass produced part made so poorly inverted firewall shortly & widened inner guards under rear guards (see westi's work on micks 58 for the guard work) wheels... Pre au falcon - so wheels to suit xa-el falcon wheels, the offset is +6, au> is +36 as are most late jap cars, finding low offset wheels is VERY difficult, finally picked up the set pictured look similar to a set you can get for 911's so i cant complain 😀 i would of liked 18s but these shall do for now, beggers cant be choosers, also anything under a 17" looks rediculously small under aeros so dont bother if your considering going this route 🙂 i think thats enough for now... any questions ill be happy to answer, yes even $$$ if you want to build similar & would like an idea (im my own minister of war & finance!) hope someone finds this interesting, i spent awhile typing so appreciate dammit! 😂

STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 29 Nov 2009, 12:20 am

#749700

outta time before i know it, back to the usual crazy work next week, time off was over too fast! no more bursts of productivity like that till... xmas/nye IF i can squeeze it in around the various family things.

Vote 1 - DUB DAY! every week, solid dub work all you want, & perfect weather for being in the garage at the time too!

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 29 Nov 2009, 1:25 am

#749702

Let me know if you need moving vw help. 🙂

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 29 Nov 2009, 8:13 pm

#749853

thanks mustard, not holding my breath to see much change in the next 2 weeks unfortunately 🥲

...unless of course i get the new side peices to go around the engine done...

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 2 Dec 2009, 3:52 pm

#750344

Looks like it sits quite low in there... helpful for intercoolers i guess!

Might need a polish though....

You still planning on running bumpers? There was a nice light metalic blue super with areo's at run to the sun... and IMO it looked better without the bumpers..

STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 6 Dec 2009, 12:58 pm

#750915

Getting closer to rolling...

slightly concerning that the skinny wheel/tyre i have on it JUST fits, that said it is at full drop & pushed out on the control arm & should squeeze inwards a wee bit when on the ground

Oh, & the rear as expected will probably end up looking like qik108 with the lumps, ill take a gearbox to thrash over not having to do that though 😀
IF i get to play again on monday it should be all sorted out, better get the mounts finished asap!

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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 · 6 Dec 2009, 1:09 pm

#750918

So the body is back on the pan for good now ???

That was a bit of a mile stone when building Jezebel... and the perfect time to be lining up the cage I reckon....

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 6 Dec 2009, 1:13 pm

#750920

sadly no, and im not ready for cage yet, need to fit everything else first!, oh does yours use the pan/body rubber or just bolted together? assuming the cage is attached to the pan aswell it seems kinda redundant cos it wont come apart anytime soon

loooooong way off being done still 🥲 but its getting there, even the mother is appreciating it now 😀

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 6 Dec 2009, 1:13 pm

#750921

nothing is permanant with dave.

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2,220 posts · joined May 2007 · 6 Dec 2009, 1:37 pm

#750923

Yup - I've got the standard body rubber in there. Cage is welded into the body and then through bolted to the pan - means I can remove the body from the pan just like normal.

I'll drive Jezzi on Wed night - bring a torch and you can have a good squiz if you like.

btw - man that front guard looks fat...

👍

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:00 pm

#750929

big fine if you dont, & i should be right for a torch, possibly with decent batterys in it too! if im lucky i mite get to do a bit sarvo but not exactly healthy currently so motivation is lacking

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:10 pm

#750933

can i come too?

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:10 pm

#750934

Hi

What size and ET are your front wheels?

Steve

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:18 pm

#750937

15x7 +6 normal boring pre au falcon wheels, nice fitment hey? AND NO SPACERS!!!!!!!! & should be a very nice turning circle when the box is put in 😀 😀

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:26 pm

#750939

Can you refresh our memory (with pics) of what youhave for rotors, calipers and brackets Dave?

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:30 pm

#750940

will see what i can do, but if you need to know right now, its VWCOOLS BIIG kit, rotors are BA falcon, calipers(not yet mounted) are vr-vs ish commodore calipers, brackets are... chunky, hubs use stock bearings & seals, 5x114.3 stud pattern(plenty of different offset wheels in that pattern) pics when im playing with it all again, hopefully tomorrow 🙂

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:39 pm

#750941

So the rotors and calipers are "off the shelf"'
and the hubs and brackets are custom made items by VWCOOL?

So all ford wheels, studs and nuts?

Thanks dude.

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2,220 posts · joined May 2007 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:47 pm

#750942

Yeah yeah - anything to avoid a fine hey.

Can understand the motivation being lacking. Same issue here actually... plus the heat and V8's on tele ain't helping !!!

Lots of questions there DB - almost sound like you're researching/planning something... heh heh

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71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 · 6 Dec 2009, 2:47 pm

#750943

im looking at getting one of these kits, were they easy to intall? and what prices roughly pm me ive pmmed vwcool.

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 6 Dec 2009, 3:50 pm

#750949

yep all off the shelf, uses falcon rears so why not use the stud pattern the rotors came with? centerbore of stock falcon wheels matches the hubs PERFECTLY too,

to install... peice of piss, standard bearings & seals, & a few extra, well bigger bolts, only thing thats not off the shelf is the hub, caliper bracket, & the stock vw stub axle needs to be modified slightly(old caliper mounts machined off, backing plate drilled & tapped to larger size)

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 7 Dec 2009, 4:52 pm

#751106

DB, hang around, pics of the hubs/brackets will be up in a few moments (just seen u were online)

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 7 Dec 2009, 5:10 pm

#751109

dialup & internet/comp issues arent fun, anyway heres the hub

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 7 Dec 2009, 5:26 pm

#751113

& theres the caliper bracket

nice huh?

ball joint nut sits rather close to the 15x7 +6ET wheel, its enough to get a socket onto though so no huge drama

Thats the 17x8 +6ET wheels, theres about 2mm clearance at maximum outward position on both control arm & camber/caster top, can still drop 75mm on the strut body in case anyone is curious

Sure glad i got the press in bushings from Brad(TOPLINE part) to flip the tie rod end upside down, not yet done as you can see(tie rod is about 20mm from the body shell

Ooooooh! it moves, on its own wheels!!!!!!!! big weeks ahead id say...

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 7 Dec 2009, 6:08 pm

#751119

uh... this may be a crap comment, but its just made the track wider...?

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 7 Dec 2009, 6:28 pm

#751122

surely did, the stock wheels would sit roughly where the first 2" or rubber is on these i think, i can measure to compare to yours if your curious

basically ive got bigger rubber without sacrificing turning circle 😀

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 7 Dec 2009, 6:32 pm

#751125

sure beats a narrow beam and 135s 😂

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2,220 posts · joined May 2007 · 7 Dec 2009, 6:50 pm

#751129

C'mon - where's the shot of the sexy wheels on it ???

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 7 Dec 2009, 6:58 pm

#751131

hey sides, I asked a question about mallory gear in the rev limit thread... did you see it 🙂

yeah dave, where are the wheel shots!!

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 7 Dec 2009, 7:23 pm

#751143

STIDUB- forever the people pleaser...

and again, is it just whos building the car or do other people appreciate the various stages you go through during the build?

this should help to determine track differences between various setups

17x8 above, 15x7 below both ET+6

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 7 Dec 2009, 7:39 pm

#751144

Hi

I'd forgotten how close the bottom ball joint comes on some wheels, I put 15 inch cookies on my old 1302 when it was painted, the nut dug into the wheel and stopped it turning.

Steve

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1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 7 Dec 2009, 9:34 pm

#751169

oooooh yeah, very close, lucky theres a few different size nuts available if need be? (notice the difference between LH & RH) im tempted to throw the higher offset (32-48ish) on just to show the difference in clearance, anything higher offset in a decent width 15" wouldnt fit looking at it, that said the others i have in this pattern are 16's

any chance steve, joel, jak riz etc could post a pic up of the clearance between struts, controll arms & such, perhaps add info for wheel size aswell....

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