Oh look. Is it Lee Jnr?
All I can say is that however much it cost, to me it was worth it. And if it was too much for you, then just dont go next time. Maybe I am taking this a little personal but it kinda brings me down when people bitch about something that I live for.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
TextThat is GREAT NEWS.... there are so many VW people who missed out this year and then there are those 'like Me' who didn't get their VW finished in time for this years Valla... and We will be able to make it next year...
that IS great news.... I just love Nambucca, and My Wife does too... and I hope My 68AutoBug will too...
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- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
There was a large donation made to the local VRA.
Take that away and what would they have?
1962 Type3 Squareback
1967 Type3 Fastback "Kermit"
The truth is important. It will set you free
TextWhat about a gold coin to enter Valla Park -money to rescue squad- $5 for a magazine etc and $10 to enter the show... Everyone who stays at the park pay their own fees anyway.. What was the $22 and the wrist band for??? Anyone know ???
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- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
Dasdubber wrote:My email is already sent - that would be awesome to have valla on next year since I couldn't have my car finished in time for the one just passed!
Yeeharr...😀
Wanna go double or nothing on that carton ????:P
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx AustraliaAmazer,
I didn't mention the prices until others bought it up.... Others thought it was expensive, so did I... I'm just agreeing...
I would always go.....
I love VWs... always have always will
(o\!/o)
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
The wrist band was for entry to the show, swap meet, festivities.
The money you pay for accomodation is for your bed.
The money you pay for dinner is for your food.
The money you paid on sunday was to have your car judged.
The money you pay for a swapmeet site was for a patch of ground where you presumably make money. call it rent.
Its the same as when you go to the Nationals. Nothing is free! It shouldnt be.
It costs money to book the park. Insurance. trophies. Somebody has to pay. I dont think Donna is getting rich off your back. She is still driving the same car she has had for many years. Get over it.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
That weekend will probably cost me about $4000 by the time I finally get my kombi back on the road. I aint whinging.
Has anyone seen my dummy? I'm sure I spat it around here somewhere.
[Edited on 19-8-2003 by amazer]
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
I'm not that fussed about the money. The main reason it was a shock was because the show was no-where near that price last 2 valla's, so why the sudden hike. Same # trophies, same judges. Can't tell me it was due to insurance. If they had a lower price more people woulda entered.
The racer's all getting $10 fines at the auctions was also a bit steep. Most clubs do those sort of fines but charge like 50c. But hey, I didn't get one of those so why am I complaining?
Maybe us QLD'ers are just spoilt. Dubs by the Pubs has more vw's than Valla, enough trophies to actually seperate buggies, baja's and kit cars, peoples choice judging, a huge cruise, a swap meet, and only costs like $5 or $10 (feel proud blbvw members).
[Edited on 19-8-2003 by Baja Wes]
Wes -
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Baja Wes wrote:The racer's all getting $10 fines at the auctions was also a bit steep. Most clubs do those sort of fines but charge like 50c.
Really? I didnt go saturday night. I'm afraid I wouldnt have paid that if I was there.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
Damn right Brad - double or nothing for sure! :bounce
I will certainly have it finished by then. In fact I'll double or nothing the bet that it will be done in time for dubs by the pub!
:beer
You just said Nothings free Amazer....
You would have Paid the $10 Fine....
OK... Now I know What the money went to.... I'm OK... I still think $22 is a bit steep...... I'll go quietly now....
I won;t say another word....
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
I can settle this once and for all as I was involved with this from the start with Donna. The main reason for the price hike was down to extortionate public liability insurance costs and a main sponsor for the last few years pulling out.
Donna pulled out the stops to get the show organsed this year, and nearly had to scrap it due to the Public Liability costs. Luckily CAMS I think it was helped us get a reasonable quote, but if it wasn't for them, there would not have been a Valla 2003.
The good news is that Donna has a couple of major sponsors keen to help out after seeing how well things went this year. This may or may not affect the price on the gate next year, its all too early to tell.
Cheers
Steve
Amazer,
I sent My emil to Donna Pell and asked about the prices. I got a nice prompt reply and she is trying to get the costs of the show & shine down.
They have been using Street Machine Judges and have to pay their accomodation etc. I believe VWs should be judged by VW people... if thats possible, the costs should be able to be kept down to a "normal" level..
I will go whenever its on.... yearly etc..
Actually My Wife wants to go back for a Holiday... Its a nice place..
I love VWs - always have - always will..
(o\!/o) Lee
See Ya All next time...
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
Well that buggered me for 2005 as I was planning for it then as next year am off to Great Canadian Bug-In at Vancouver mid August. Have to wait till 2006, what is wrong with a coming of age 21st Valla in 2 years. Just another moaner, volma.
They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.
As you can see i am new at the VW scene but i can honestly say that if you want to go or want to do something you will find nothing is for free these days and like it was mentioned earlier you can not please everyone with costs
This year was our frist time to attend an event like that and we both had a blast.
We own 2 VW and we took down both our cars, and i think the whole weekend cost like $400.00 and neither of us went without anything
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Roll on Valla 2004
I spent somewhere between 1.5 and 2.0k$, So every second year after the big 20 next year would be good. I don't regret any of the expense. I just wish I had another $500 for the Polished Cookie Cutters with almost new tyres at the swap meet. I saw the guy who bought them and thought it was an opportunity missed. My wife however chooses to disagree!
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I dont see that every year would kill it! if you want something bad enough you just put a bit of cash away each week to do it!
Other than my passion for VW's I also have a BMW Boxer bike I have had for 17 years, I travel almost every second week, either to VW meetings or bike runs, I just got back from a 6000 kay run (border run) just to have a beer on one night and ride straight back home again (a BMW thing) I can do this because I only drink on special occations, I gave up smoking, and I dont waste my money on take away food, or any other useless junk! I would rather save my cash so I can go on VW, or BMW odysey's, if you really want to do it dont make excuses, there are some things in life that are worth making sacrifices for, don't you think Valla is one meet that is worth it! :thumb:thumb😀
Rob......
Boxer Power
Member of DMLRK.....Die Mittler Lebuns Resto Komeradschaft
Dasdubber wrote:Damn right Brad - double or nothing for sure! :bounce
I will certainly have it finished by then. In fact I'll double or nothing the bet that it will be done in time for dubs by the pub!
:beer
How about Action Day
😀😀Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx AustraliaThat would be pushing it!! I have been tied up with work (excuses excuses) - haven't got as much done as I'd hoped. I'll have to tee the carton up for you soon then - will you be around in the near future?
Yeah I reckon VW people judges. Either people choice with a voting form given out at the front gate (when you get the arm band), or a couple or VW people from each club. Peoples choice always works well.
I must admit I didn't think the street machine judges knew what they were looking at most of the time. So they could only really judge if the car looked shiny and clean or not.
But that's enough whinging 🙂. I would be there whenever they hold one. Maybe I could race next year 🙂
So what about the people without internet access, how will they know there is a Valla in 2004? Some people just turn up every 2nd year, they'll be disappointed when they arrive in 2005 and no-one is there?
Wes -
www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control...
🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.
Advertising woud soon fix the problem.....unless your from a commune in Nimbin somewhere and are anti media.....however your bound to be speaking to someone about volkswagens that would pass on the word....Word of mouth or an advertising poster at every spare parts business would be a goer.
The rest are either in clubs or belong to this forum.
I spose theres always school newsletters and church notices lol
Ree 😀
[Edited on 19-8-2003 by kOMBI KARMA]
Good idea Wes 😀 here is an extract from the email I sent Donna a few hours ago..
" The general consensus seems to be that VW shows should be judged by VW people and not Custom Car Judges. Of course getting VW people to judge would have its own set of problems. Maybe, a suitable solution would be to get all the VW clubs around the place to nominate 1 or 2 people who are attending Valla to be judges and represent that club. This would give you a good spread of VW enthusiasts with a varied array of back grounds and taste. I also think asking the clubs to assist in the categories judged on would also improve peoples perceptions of the show and shine.
Maybe you could offer clubs the opportunity of sponsoring the event and if they did then they get to nominate 2 judges and some show categories ? "
Maybe more should suggest similiar lines if you all agree.
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx AustraliaCould have a best club display kinda thing going on too !!!
They might already i not sure !! Not been yet had to miss this year so next would be cool.........
Da Time For The Aircooled Revolution Is Upon US.
Brothers & Sisters Lets Hit The Streets, Roll As One. And Feel The Power Of The Aircooled Storm.
Ooooppsss yeah suppose better get my lazy arse joined upto a club then ay !!!!
Da Time For The Aircooled Revolution Is Upon US.
Brothers & Sisters Lets Hit The Streets, Roll As One. And Feel The Power Of The Aircooled Storm.
Baja Wes wrote:Peoples choice always works well.
Thats how VWIllawarra used to do it. You voted on your own class cos presumably that was the class where you were knowlegable. Unfortuantely it didnt work because if there were 5 cars from one club and 2 cars from the others the best car from the first club seemed to win.
I must admit I didn't think the street machine judges knew what they were looking at most of the time.
I dunno about that. they picked Jays car to bits. not a 1200. 009 distributor. Alternator. Not that it really concerns me as hard luck will be the only car show trophy I ever win. Guess I'm in with a chance if I get fiurthest travelled at a VW show in Brooome.
I dont care what happens. So long as I am there.
Sorry to hear about jay's Beetle... it looked like a new one...
She wouldn't let Me see the engine though, she said it was too dirty.
What about some guidelines that ALL show judges could abide by.
Lee (o\!/o)
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
amazer wrote:I dunno about that. they picked Jays car to bits. not a 1200. 009 distributor. Alternator.
Well that's all nice if your trying to win best original or something. Others can verify when they looked at my car they spent more time looking at the carpet than they did looking at the engine. They had a quick look at the engine, didn't know what it was, so went elsewhere on the car. Kinda strange since I entered best engineered and they didn't look at the engineering. Rod Penrose was always gunna win that class anyway, but I expect to at least be judged.
The boys in the 4wd golf had exactly the same problem.
Dubs by the pub has everyone who goes on the cruise (like 200 people) voting for every car in every class. It seems to work quite well, although I must admit cars with shiny paint or looks cool also tend to win that style too, cos no-one looks much further than that. But hey, if that's what the people like.
Wes -
www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control...
🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.
It is always nice to win an award for hard work but I guess it is just the bonus...having the comments peple make on the street each time you drive it are more worthwhile for me (but thats just me).
I think the club representatives judging may have some "conflict of interest" as you will always have that loyalty to vote for one of your own (as much as you'd like to say you are totally unbiased).
People's choice is good but as Wes and others say, shiny paint and big wheels can attract. This is a good discussion, keep the opinions coming. If only we could find some vw enthusiasts who don't belong to one particular club, who know a lot about vw's and can appreciate ingenuity, authenticism, and overall appeal.....hmmm
I dont know if you noticed BUT there were 2 very qualified people standing besides the Street machine judges,,,,
This being Andrerw Dodd and Henry Spicak both of whom have been playing with VWs for more years than i can remember,
Andrew and Henrys job was to advise the SMJ what was STOCK and what wasnt.... This is why Jays car lost points for having a stock car with a 1600 fitted.... and no doubt other cars as well... Although Jays car was and is VERY good in all other areas.... I think she came in 2nd place in the cat she entered ??
THE CAR HAS TO FIT THE CATEGORY.
We do a similar thing at the VW nats cause we have people who simpley dont know what to enter there car in
VW spectacular and the VW Nats have tried to get CLUB Judges but hey everyone wants to havea good time....
If yar dont like the judging dont enter the show...
sit back n have a :beer:beer:beer
Or three
