The stella and peronis appeal to me greatly.
That is one fancy exhaust 👍
vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?
2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·
Marty
Craig S Wolfsburg Wizard
635 posts · joined May 2008 ·
Hi Barry, this is a question of curiosity rather than criticism, but why do this full custom exhaust when there are plenty of seemingly good ones available at a reasonable price out on the market? Is it for the challenge, or because what's available is not good, or why?
Of course it looks marvellous and I'm envious and I look forward to seeing the impact on the dyno.
Cheers
Craig
Of course it looks marvellous and I'm envious and I look forward to seeing the impact on the dyno.
Cheers
Craig
1969 Beetle - June
1974 L Bug - Gwendolyn
2002 Bora V6 4Motion - Anita
1974 L Bug - Gwendolyn
2002 Bora V6 4Motion - Anita
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
It is because i have a "window of opportunity" in the bank ballance to cry once
Basically the $500 specials from "the shops" are built to a price
The stainless turns brown within the year and a lot of the are not even correct firing order
The collector should be 4-3-2-1 but you have a look and a lot of the $400 ones are 4-2-3-1
they almost all either stick out the back or hang down
this will be completely tucked away
It is almost also a project for Richard as he want to finally sell these competively .
They DO make real power.
I will post the dyno sheet as to what the difference is.
I made 17 HP by putting on the dells
I will be interested in what these make.
So - again - it is a cry once for a true bolt on HP that will last for a VERY long time
Basically the $500 specials from "the shops" are built to a price
The stainless turns brown within the year and a lot of the are not even correct firing order
The collector should be 4-3-2-1 but you have a look and a lot of the $400 ones are 4-2-3-1
they almost all either stick out the back or hang down
this will be completely tucked away
It is almost also a project for Richard as he want to finally sell these competively .
They DO make real power.
I will post the dyno sheet as to what the difference is.
I made 17 HP by putting on the dells
I will be interested in what these make.
So - again - it is a cry once for a true bolt on HP that will last for a VERY long time
Futue te ipsum!!!
SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen
868 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
What diameter is it? I'd like to see some back to back testing of the different firing order exhausts and see what kind of difference there is.
barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
looks almost as much of a work of art as mine mate.
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
bugger me, and i thought welding up that one of mine was a prick of a job, hope you both had a few sherberts handy for that construction
nice work, that will sound sweet as with a nice muffler on it
nice work, that will sound sweet as with a nice muffler on it
Craig S Wolfsburg Wizard
635 posts · joined May 2008 ·
Thanks Barry,
Look forward to seeing the results, and if Richard is going to sell them, then I may be standing in the queue.
Look forward to seeing the results, and if Richard is going to sell them, then I may be standing in the queue.
1969 Beetle - June
1974 L Bug - Gwendolyn
2002 Bora V6 4Motion - Anita
1974 L Bug - Gwendolyn
2002 Bora V6 4Motion - Anita
trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away
1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 ·
Looks great!
Also keen to see if it was worth spending the money rather than buying a sidewinder.
Looks like its gunna sit lower than my sidewinder?
Also keen to see if it was worth spending the money rather than buying a sidewinder.
Looks like its gunna sit lower than my sidewinder?
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
It is 1 3/8's going to 1 1/2"SuperOwen wrote:What diameter is it?
The firing order has a lot to do with simplicity in construction
Have a look at some of the pictures of the various exhaust on different websites and it isnt working
if you have the 4-3-2-1 you get a real scavenging effect that almost sucks the gasses out
they changes only the exhaust on Snotty and they picked up 20km/hr down the straight
So - i am hoping for a noticeable difference
Otherwise i will delete this post 🤪
Simon - i really doubt it will sit lower
I dont believe you see much at all below the rear valance
Futue te ipsum!!!
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2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·
If you want HP and something that really works you only go custom. most of the off the shelf stuff is rubbish and cheap quality and yes you are right in saying that 90% of the systems on the market have the pipes into the collector in the wrong firing order. I have seen gains of up to 5hp on formula Vees by simply changing the firing order to be correct into the collector.
ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Almost...................
Its all flanged and ceramic coated
I have the stainless muffler, pipe and flange.
We have tack welded it in position
I need to get another mate to stainless weld the muffler side
Hoping work is quiet on Friday so i can piss off early and fit it
Then back off to the dyno to see what it has done
Its all flanged and ceramic coated
I have the stainless muffler, pipe and flange.
We have tack welded it in position
I need to get another mate to stainless weld the muffler side
Hoping work is quiet on Friday so i can piss off early and fit it
Then back off to the dyno to see what it has done
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Futue te ipsum!!!
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Well - its in
VERY happy
No HUGE power gain but man - the FAT torque it now has!
Pulls from down low
Surprisingly it isnt that loud. Burble yes - loud no
Off to the dyno this week hopefully
Tucks nicely up out of the way
Only thing i would have changed is to have used black for the ceramic coating
anyway................... more soon
I'm off for a (another) drive
VERY happy
No HUGE power gain but man - the FAT torque it now has!
Pulls from down low
Surprisingly it isnt that loud. Burble yes - loud no
Off to the dyno this week hopefully
Tucks nicely up out of the way
Only thing i would have changed is to have used black for the ceramic coating
anyway................... more soon
I'm off for a (another) drive
Futue te ipsum!!!
trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away
1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 ·
Looks good 👍
Did you have to rejet?
Did you have to rejet?
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
No yet
Seems to be running ok as it is
Will get a reading on Tuesday hopefully and then see what jets are available in the stash
Seems to be running ok as it is
Will get a reading on Tuesday hopefully and then see what jets are available in the stash
Futue te ipsum!!!
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
Looks reallly good Barry. Get some fake peas shooters on there :P
vforce = quality as usual 🙂
vforce = quality as usual 🙂
grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·
Baz you have got to admit the man is a master of exhausts,I've seen him work first hand and Genius is the best i can come up with and he doesn't mind a beer either which makes him a great bloke.
Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Not sure "master" and "genius" are the right words 🙅..........I mean have a look at the weld quality 😊
Should wake it up though Baz !
Should wake it up though Baz !
grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·
He is a man not a machine,I don't bag anyone who can fabricate a system like this freehand! If you want machine welds buy an off the shelf product.
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
off the shelf with good welds?
be sure to exclude empi systems from that search
be sure to exclude empi systems from that search
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
if you want an exhaust that works exclude empi from your search.
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Picked up some Recaro's out of a Proton Satria GTi off ebay the other day
Virtually brand new.
Taken straight out in 2003 and then "wrapped in plastic"
I prefer the headrest than the wings i had before.
Plus these sit at a lower height. I can just about see the whole speedo now 🤪
Reckon the colour is a close match. Apparently they came in grey. That would have been better - but for the price i am happy.
Already have a Recaro base on VW runners. So they just bolt straight on.
Just need to give the base a lick of black
Virtually brand new.
Taken straight out in 2003 and then "wrapped in plastic"
I prefer the headrest than the wings i had before.
Plus these sit at a lower height. I can just about see the whole speedo now 🤪
Reckon the colour is a close match. Apparently they came in grey. That would have been better - but for the price i am happy.
Already have a Recaro base on VW runners. So they just bolt straight on.
Just need to give the base a lick of black
Futue te ipsum!!!
Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Wow.looks great Baz 👍
funbug Seriously Crusin Dubber
135 posts · joined May 2006 ·
Do you need an engineering certificate for those seats?
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
you need an engineers certificate for changing underpants
EVERYTHING that is not original needs a certificate
These are ADR approved seats that were OEM for a Proton Satria GTi
They are bolted to Recaro bases that connect to the original VW mounting runners
There is no problem getting these engineered
EVERYTHING that is not original needs a certificate
These are ADR approved seats that were OEM for a Proton Satria GTi
They are bolted to Recaro bases that connect to the original VW mounting runners
There is no problem getting these engineered
Futue te ipsum!!!
EgeWorks Wolfsburg Wizard
602 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
Looking good Barry. That exhaust is great.
trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away
1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 ·
Looks great 😀
What power did u end up getting with that exhaust?
What power did u end up getting with that exhaust?
Flintstones Custom Title Time!
1,077 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Baz, correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like you have the seats in the wrong location.....
Drivers seat in the passenger side and vice versa.
Love the old school recaros👍
Cheers
D
Drivers seat in the passenger side and vice versa.
Love the old school recaros👍
Cheers
D
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Dino
you are "sort of" correct
This model has a flip lever on both sholders of the seat - so it doesnt matter which way they go in
I purposely swapped them round so as to have easy access to the adjusting knob from the middle.
There isnt enough room to get your hand down there when the door os closed.
These fit really well (520mm wide base) and dont hinder access to the hand brake in any way
I run door pockets and there is no pressure there either - just not enough room for a hand
It is useful as most people that sit there are "one offs" and usually want to adjust after you have started driving
you are "sort of" correct
This model has a flip lever on both sholders of the seat - so it doesnt matter which way they go in
I purposely swapped them round so as to have easy access to the adjusting knob from the middle.
There isnt enough room to get your hand down there when the door os closed.
These fit really well (520mm wide base) and dont hinder access to the hand brake in any way
I run door pockets and there is no pressure there either - just not enough room for a hand
It is useful as most people that sit there are "one offs" and usually want to adjust after you have started driving
Futue te ipsum!!!
Barnabie Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
Just read your thread from the beginning. Love what you've done so far, especially the exhaust. Keep the updates coming 🙂
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi Baz
They look like they were made for it, are you going to Valla? Or are you still playing footy then?
Steve
They look like they were made for it, are you going to Valla? Or are you still playing footy then?
Steve