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hulbyw Insano Dub Head

819 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#763608
Are new oil coolers are any good? Building a 1776 for my Type1 and updating to a doghouse cooler. Wondering whether to use the old genuine cooler (if I can clean and test it) or would I be better off with a brand new one?

grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#763621
to the best of my knowledge a quality new oil cooler should be of equal to the original unit.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#763649
hulbyw wrote:Are new oil coolers are any good? Building a 1776 for my Type1 and updating to a doghouse cooler. Wondering whether to use the old genuine cooler (if I can clean and test it) or would I be better off with a brand new one?
WOULD BE BEST TO BUY A New ONE...

We don't seem to replace them here in Australia but they are always for Sale in the USA...

You can always use a remote oil cooler etc too...
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#763656
personally if it was me id go the t4 2L kombi one and just widen the housing. you only have to widen about an inch and it fits. ive got pics some where ill try to dig them out.
its a wider cooler
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#763664
here we go






just ignore the modified hover bit as it went on to a t4 conversion motor and it was a better way of doing it.
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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hulbyw Insano Dub Head

819 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#763868
Thanks barls, good suggestion but I have just been offered a new type1 cooler so reckon I will go with that (saves hassleing a mate to weld for me)

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#763884
barls wrote:personally if it was me id go the t4 2L kombi one and just widen the housing. you only have to widen about an inch and it fits. ive got pics some where ill try to dig them out.
its a wider cooler
There is no advantage to running the T4 cooler over the standard beetle cooler, engine oil temps will remain the same..............yes you would think that being a bigger cooler it would but it doesnt !


greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#763906
speeking from experience an outside cooler would be best as it leaves the option to upgrade to a larger if the need arises,also the cooler in the housing restricts air flow a bit but a bigger engine will require better cooling.so close off the doghouse and live happyyrly after
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forry2000 Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Jun 2007 ·

#764070
Only believe 5% of what you hear from Craig Torrens.....the rest is just story telling.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#764093
forry2000 wrote:Only believe 5% of what you hear from Craig Torrens.....the rest is just story telling.

Geez posting 8.07am... shouldn't you be waiting for the bus to pick you up for school?


barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#764123
Craig Torrens wrote:
barls wrote:personally if it was me id go the t4 2L kombi one and just widen the housing. you only have to widen about an inch and it fits. ive got pics some where ill try to dig them out.
its a wider cooler
There is no advantage to running the T4 cooler over the standard beetle cooler, engine oil temps will remain the same..............yes you would think that being a bigger cooler it would but it doesnt !
no but the added volume from the bigger cooler can only be a good thing when you look at thermal mass. even if its only just bigger
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
the chaos project - click me

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#764193
vw54 wrote:hey that figure is too high
yeah closer to 2% 😂.


Brian Officially Full-On Dubber

263 posts · joined Jun 2007 ·

#764199
barls wrote:personally if it was me id go the t4 2L kombi one and just widen the housing. you only have to widen about an inch and it fits. ive got pics some where ill try to dig them out.
its a wider cooler

Waste of time IMO

Thermal mass has more to do with Pink bats
and very little to do with oil cooling the way i see it😂😂

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#764213
as i see it as a hydraulic tech a larger volume of oil takes longer to heat up that a smaller volume exposed to the same conditions.
therefore thermal mass has a great deal to do with it.
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
the chaos project - click me

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#764225
it probably holds about 30ml more........I think youre clutching at straws 😵‍💫


forry2000 Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Jun 2007 ·

#764268
ho hum torrens you goose

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#764294
nah mate..........I'm a sheep !!!😂