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lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767215
Hi,

Im new to VW's and am looking at purchasing a late 55 ova on ebay. It is through a dealership in Bisbane and wanting to know the history of the vehicle. It's two tone Black and red sides and won a few trophies. The engine number has AD prefixes meaning it's a 70's 1600 but have been told that it's a 1200 36hp. Still has 12v. He is asking for $17995.

Could a 1200 have a 1600 engine casing???

Confused

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1955-Volkswagen-Beetle-VW-Black-Red-flash-4sp-M-S

Regards
Lawrence

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#767216
it says the item has been removed or is unavaliable

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767219
Yeah for some reason the link through the forum shows it as removed.

If you go into ebay (not voa link) you will see it listed. Search "vw 1955"

Regards
Lawrence

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#767226
typical dealers with NFI about old cars
its a 56 with peashooter exhaust like that and its a 36hp 1200 engine in it, might be original but highly doubtfull but its definately not the AD 1600 listed in the specs

interestingly theyve got a 12volt genny to fit the old 36hp block

can anyone tell if thats a real hazet kit?
doesnt look right


lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767228
Yeah thats why I could understand.

Im getting pics sent from a pre purchase inspection in Brisbane.

No log books just the manufacturers user manual.

Lawrence

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#767229
Hey funny coincidence - I just replied to an e-mail from you Lawrence about this car about half an hour ago !!!

😉

On the peashooters... info I have says the single exhaust ended in 1954... anyone know for sure ???

Engine wise - generator like Joel said appears to be 12V, carb and intake manifold looks later, and the Bosch 009 dizzy which is a common aftermarket mod. The engine would have to have been rebuilt, but kinda doubt it's any larger than 1200cc simple cos most of the later engine internals won't suit that case/block.

Don't think it's a genuine Hazet... shape looks wrong, and has definitely been refinished at some point... or it's plastic...
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lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767230
Thanks for providing the ebay link Joel

The mecahnic that did the inspection says it's a 6 volt????

I asked him to take as many images as he could. It comes with a tool kit but is brand new so hence must be after market cos I heard they are worth big $$$$$

Hasn't had one offer on ebay with 7000 hits. I think it has been for sale since November 09....I through a price at him and he got all cranky and sounds arrogant. I love the look of the car and am tempted to put a deposit on it but thought I would investigate a bit more on this forum.

Lawrence

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#767231
According to a previous owner it had a a 1600tp motor in it And full detailed documentation of the restoration including photo's.

Looks to have had a bit of a make over since it was last for sale in the ACT, with a correct model engine being put back in it and newly trimmed seats.

check the links below. It's been for sale for a long time now, and seems to keep jumping to a new owner and popping back up on the market for sale

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=69870&page=1#pid671557

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63318&page=1#pid598438
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767232
yeah the motor is a bit of a mix lolly bag...

But I do know single exhaust ended in 54

Just wish it was privately listed as Id be more comfortable with being able to chat with a genuine seller as this dealer keeps saying "mate it's a multiple trophy winner"

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767233
Jace,

Nah must be a different one. the one on ebay has vinyl seats and brownish carpet on inside....

Do u rekon $18000 is too steep?

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767234
I should have paid u to go check it out for me......I just can't understand the "AD" prefix on the engine number

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#767235
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a different one to that one from Canberra... does have a very similar look tho.

Either that or it's been done over again in the meantime... stance, interior, indicators, radio, gravel guards, wheels, hub caps, engine, exhaust, bumpers, wipers... that's a lot of changes....
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My toys
'70 Hillclimb Bug 'Jezebel' w/- Haltech EFI - http://bit.ly/VwTNtQ
'60 KG Coupe - resto kinda started
01 New Beetle - gf's car, but I turn the spanners

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#767236
Naa. Same car i bet.
Interior looks brand new which probably went in from the previous owner.
If you look at the pic's from the early adds, you will see the bottom of the Gauge near the steering columb. Also the rear blinkers are still the same. Arial is still in the same place.

I can see differences, but they all look freshly done.
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#767238
not my cup of tea a bit slow😂
if it has had a body off resto and everything has been renewed or reconditioned maybe worth that money.😊
😂🤪😂🤪😂
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#767241
lawrence wrote:I should have paid u to go check it out for me......I just can't understand the "AD" prefix on the engine number
I can go have a look at it on Tuesday if you would like me to? It's not to far from me. But i do know the place it is for sale at and he is a very arrogant bloke.
Had a Hot pink 60's bug in there for $10k , was tidy, but not worth the $10k. He wasn't open to offers
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767242
In 2002 it won an award in at a show in QLD and was exacatly the way it is now roof racks and all

Im just wondering....chassis number will confirm it

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#767243
no good buying a car like that if you are going to change/modify things
😂🤪😂🤪😂
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#767244
vw54 wrote:it has a 40hp genny fitted 6V
put your glasses on Dave..........I think you will find its a 12v genny.!


lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767245
Jace

That would be so grateful if u could pop in😎😎😎😎😎

I want to know if the heater channels condition and if there is any rust in the typical VW areas.....does the radio work 12 or 6 volt and the engine number.

I absolutely love the look of it but am just unable to get out of sydney to look at it myself...

Again if you can check it out id be very appreciative

Regards
Lawrence

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#767248
If that interior was new in 2002 i'll eat my hat. If it is, then it hasn't been used since, or plastic was put down and little white gloves were worn 😂
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767249
Im just wondering what it's worth.....

I was able to drop it to $17500...I offered him $16000 over the phone and he said naaaaaahh!!!! $17500

needs a gee up this bloke.....lololo

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767250
only found external photo of when it won best paint and body in 2002.....What I am saying is that looking at it on ebay now looks the same as it did externally in 2002....ie stone guard protectors etc.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#767251
vw54 wrote:its a 40hp 6V genny with a big pully
Um, the pulley is the same size as the genny housing,which tells me its 12volt..............if it was a 6volt genny then the pulley would look larger compared to the genny housing.

Unless there is a 6 volt genny that has a pulley the same size as its housing , but I've NEVER seen that before !!!

Anyway....


VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#767252
Ok. Could be then.❓ Has to be an evil twin then :
I will go have a look at it on Tuesday for you. see if it is 12 or 6volt. see if i can have a bit of a sticky at the channels and front firewall etc
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#767253
If that's what you're after (the look etc) you wont be able to build one for that price.👍


vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#767255
yeah looks like a 12V now i have blowen the pic up

wonder why it has WA redgo and being sold in QLD ????
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#767262
Sic habbit i have of collecting old vw classified adds. 😂🙅




NOTE> THAT THESE PICS ARE NOT CURRENT, SO PLEASE DON'T RING THE PH NUMBERS: no:
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle