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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#767282
vw54 wrote:wonder why it has WA redgo and being sold in QLD ????
My guess would be cost.

Apparently WA is the cheapest place in Aus to have a car registered... no yearly inspections just like Qld, but their rates are cheaper... something to do with lower population and subsidies or some guff like that.

A few guys with work have moved to Brissie from Perth... they kept their cars on WA plates as long as possible purely for the cost reason.
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lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767284
LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG thats it!!!!

Thanks...you legend.....

Lawrence

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767286
looks like it was for sale twice...Or the price was revised cos the phone numbers are the same....

So I guess the price is about right that dealer is asking for....

coletrickle Wolfsburg Wizard

661 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#767333
Just a side note there was a black and red oval in qld when i worked at a vw wrecker it was a very nice restored car except 4 the late model apron and boot lid(1968 and up)B careful there are some real shiny shit boxs out there!Personally I'd rather have an OG car with charracter than some shiny car with all the bells and whistles.

shaihulud Custom Title Time!

1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#767354
Hi Lawrence.

I told you that you would get a lot of help from this forum.

Let us all know what happens in the end.

Richard ( WA VW Club.)

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#767361
Looks like another twin use to be in Victoria aswell😀

Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

volumex Officially Full-On Dubber

389 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#767385
The car is about 2 km from here. It is a 56 model. (The single exhausts ended in July 1955 - so 1955 year model cars have single exhausts also.)

I have had a look at it and it is a nice enough car - but in my opinion he wants way too much for it.

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767446
Is this beetle for sale still?

Regards
lawrence

toplessbug Fahrvergnugen

879 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#767471
volumex wrote:I have had a look at it and it is a nice enough car - but in my opinion he wants way too much for it.
try to rebuild one to that standard and let me know the actual cost,let alone having to pay anybody to do any work 🙅
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Calcool Fahrvergnugen

965 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#767476
This car is being sold by Undercover Cars in Capalaba/Birkdale in QLD.

It is a 36 HP 1100cc Motor with an integral Generator stand to the engine case and it is a 12 volt generator!

I have looked at the car my self and it is pretty clean, and you could not build it for that price unless you were Andrew Dodd or Boris and able to do most of the work yourself, but even rust, paint and trim will set you back that much.

It may not be my cup of tea either, but it is the real deal and ask anyone with a fully restored Oval what they are worth or what they would want for it, you are pretty much on the money.

I do not work for these guys, but live around the corner and would love to see it go to a good home.

Cheers,

David

Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#767484
If it has AD on the license, does that mean the new engine hasnt been over the pit?

Newt
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volumex Officially Full-On Dubber

389 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#767490
toplessbug wrote:try to rebuild one to that standard and let me know the actual cost,let alone having to pay anybody to do any work 🙅
It's a 56. If it was a 54/55 then it might be worth it to someone. There is not many cars that you can restore and then sell and cover the cost of the restoration. From what I have seen, cars generally recover around 50% of the resto cost. A black 54 sold 18/24?? months ago in quite good original condition for $12k IIRC.

If it was such a good buy, then why hasn't it sold in the 12+ months it has been sitting there?

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#767497
lawrence wrote:Is this beetle for sale still?

Regards
lawrence
If you are asking about the Vic one? NO. thats a very old add.
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
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lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767506
Calcool,

The dealer says it's a 1200 and im still confused about the "AD" prefix on the engine number.

Im still waiting on the pre inspection form mechanic in Brisbane and would like to know if the body was clean and had no rust in those hidden areas. He said it was very clean but know that heater channels can be nasty.

Lawrence

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#767508
hellbugged wrote:yeah looks nice, but i'd put my $$ here........go, stop and handle better

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310201239604&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Yeah, good call I reckon Daimo.

I like 'em stock or quick... never really gone for the "pretty but slow"... but that blue one should be pretty quick, and it ain't half bad on the eyes either !!!

👍
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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#767510
No interest in the one i've linked there Lawrence?

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767511
Is an 1100 36hp??

Read on specs that a 1200 is a 36hp.

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767513
Calcool,

So the generator case must have the AD prefix meaning it's from a later model VW (i think around 71').

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767517
The sky blue one has been modified. I like the original looking oval....just that im very confused with the 36hp with 1100 and 1200's.

And also the AD prefix has me stumped....

Im crossing over from the ford holden brigade and are a VW first. Always admired the ovals and looking at getting one.

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#767524
Yeah - fair enuff - each to their own, but it's still a Volksy so all good !!! They've both been modified btw... the red and black is very "showy" compared to stock, especially in the engine bay... glad I don't have to try keeping it clean.

On the engines, well yeah - you're talkin over 50 years of confusion and story telling !!!

Basically tho, an 1100cc is as rare as rockin horse doo doo. They came in 1953 and earlier cars... basically only splits and VERY early ovals... for some good info ...click here.... VW's weren't even being officially imported into Australia then, so there'd be very few in the country.

There are essentially two different 1200cc engines... the 36hp which has the generator stand as part of the crank case, and the later 1200 40hp. 40hp motors share a lot of parts in common with 1300, 1500 and 1600 motors, and it's very easy to pick between a 36hp and a 40hp as they use a totally different crank case. The most noticable difference is the fuel pump sits between the dizzy and the generator, generator stand is a separate bolt on part etc...

If you want a stock'ish Oval, then basically it should have a 36hp engine in it unless it's a VERY early oval. No 36hp engine should have an AD prefix, unless as I think said before it's been dodgily restamped.

I'll see if I can find some decent pics of the differences between a 36hp and a 1300/1500/1600 engine for ya.
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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#767525
lawrence wrote:Im crossing over from the ford holden brigade and are a VW first. Always admired the ovals and looking at getting one.
btw - what's the ford holden brigade... even in a Volksy family, the way I was brought up you're either Ford or Holden !!!

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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#767526
OK - pics as promised:

First is a pretty much stock 36hp engine... you can see how similar it is to what's in the red and black oval, but also a few differences as already noted.




Second is a pretty stock looking 40hp engine, compolete with 6V generator on it. Totally different to the 36hp, and at least appearance wise only varies from 1300, 1500 and 1600 engines in detail things like generator size, carbs, manifolds.



Also a word of warning... some people use the shape of the fan shroud to tell the engines apart... cos the 36hp is smoother and almost a semi circle. That's NOT a way to do it, as it's very common to throw a 36hp shroud on almost any type/size of engine for "the look".
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rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#767529
yeah they are really slow everything passes you so get use to being in the slow slow lane.
Sides wrote:
hellbugged wrote:yeah looks nice, but i'd put my $$ here........go, stop and handle better

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310201239604&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Yeah, good call I reckon Daimo.

I like 'em stock or quick... never really gone for the "pretty but slow"... but that blue one should be pretty quick, and it ain't half bad on the eyes either !!!

👍

rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#767530
🤪 restoration to original specifications 🤪 I don't think they had nice shinny running boards in 1955 ??
😂😂

lawrence Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#767531
Dave,

Ok thanks for the images and information. I'll let you know about the AD prefix issue.

I had Mk2 cortinas, escort then just sold an EH premier yesterday and am in the market for an oval...ie the ford holden brigade lolol

That stock 36hp engine bay looks awesome. The one Im looking at has all the looks I want but the engine bay has been killed with all the chrome and if purchase would take it back to stock, but would cost more $$$$....Im just thinking bout the engine number thing I need to confirm by my inspector/mechanic hopefully tomorrow.

anyway I appreciate all your comments and help....top site/forum

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#767534
Yeah, cool - no worries Lawrence. I'm VW first and Holden second, so couldn't resist a possible dig at a Ford fan...

😉

Getting that red and black oval's engine bay back to stock isn't necessarily a difficult or expensive thing to do:
- tar boards to replace the chrome louvered cover
- some good quality black spray paint for the tinware, and gray for the intake manifold... or powder coating of course
- 6V generator, just get it rewound to be 12V
- non-chrome air cleaner and pulleys I'm sure can be found pretty easily - see 'em quite often at swap meets, and even the decals are available

The only tricky thing would be getting the correct carb and dizzy in good working condition... they do crop up from time to time tho, and even easier if you're happy to order in from the US.
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