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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#766487
Hey. Just after some advice on what tires people have run on the vforce spider wheels.

I would really like to go for federal tires. 595's, but the only size that even seems close is a 195/55, 195/50 or 195/45.

any advice would be great 🙂


Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#766496
I was running 195 65 on rear and 195 60 on front

they were Yokahama C Drives

think you need to stay at like 620mm dia??

195/50 is down to 576 - TOO small in my books
looks weird

Have a play with this

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Uber Kafer Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·

#766497
I'm using the V Force Spyder wheels and running Yokohama C Drive 205/65/15 on the rear and 195/65/15 on the front. Which is pretty well what Richard advised. The rear tyres are pretty well equivalent to stock rolling diameter.
Car is a 75 L bug with original rack and pinion steering.
I was advised that the wheels would interfere with the stock struts, however, for some unknown reason they fitted straight on and cleared the struts. I went ahead and fitted V Force adjustable struts and dropped the front about 50mm and those tyres fit under the front guards just fine. I could slam it much further, as there is still room under the fenders.

Fairly certain I got the 20mm offset, which was the advice. Everything went as Richard said.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#766500
mmm...............20mmET for the back and 36ET for the front is normally the go
Futue te ipsum!!!

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#766511
correct me if I am wrong, but standard struts/springs will not work, correct?

leaving me with this option, on the old school adjustable circlip struts

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#766513
I can get the 195/55 but that is the largest in the tire type.

I can get 195/60 and 195/65 in these...

http://www.federaltyres.com.au/ss535

But i expect them to be a fair bit more that the regular 595's... maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree.

I will be sending richard an email, but didnt want to seem like a complete idiot.

Uber Kafer Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·

#766522
Regarding the standard springs, the word was that the wheels wouldnt fit as they would touch the springs.
But mine fitted, ET20mm.
I am just not sure about the springs though, they appeared to be stock diameter, not narrowed, and the only markings were three red paint marks together. ???
So my advice is if you just want to fit the Spyder rims, try and fit one front wheel if you can get your hands on it, just to see if you can clear the spring.

As for the spring/strut options, I did a lot of research and a significant number of posts around the world related the same story, that they tried all the cheaper options but eventually went to the professionally made, narrowed and shortened, threaded-body adjustable strut and wished they had done that in the first place.

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#766584
yeah, I can see what you are saying uber kafer. But Another $1000 for struts is not on the books currently.
the topline tapered sports springs will still set me back $250 landed. I'm also hoping to go for a vforce strut top also. 🙂


Just trying to get a wider wheel for stopping and better brake cooling.

It seems I cannot get the 595's in the sizes i need (no longer made so small?) from my supplier. However he is offerening me 535's for quite a good price.

I can get them in 195 or 205, 65, 60, or 55 series. 🙂

if anyone has other suggestions about different brands, I'm open to that...

Uber Kafer Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·

#766684
Yeah, i can relate to the pain regarding the cost of struts, which is why my "lot of research" took about two years, and even then I didnt tell my wife what the struts cost.....

But I gotta say.... the combination of Spyder wheels, lowered struts and modern tyres totally transformed the looks, ride and handling of the L Bug. Money well spent.

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#766715
Well, luckily, I don't have a wife to explain were the money goes, but my parents ask alot of questions.

however trying to go from a stock height, every bush worn, badly braking super beetle - to a lowered beetle with nice wheels and efficient brakes, that handles and feels nice is going to cost a fair bit. it's worth it. But, instead of another $1000 for struts, that amount will go to a camera, and then a new guitar also... fun. 🙂

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#766744


would be pretty darn happy if mine looked like this....


will be trying to find some squareback torsion bars before lowering.

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#766822
Found out from STIDUB that my plans of the vforce strut tops won't be happening - too much modifying for wheremy car is at.

Had my first day of the new job yesterday, all going well, I should be well on my way with getting this stuff done by the end of April.

STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#766879
mustard, perhaps go to customveedub they have a set at the shop i think, perhaps if you asked nicely you could get a test fitment done, just clean the car around your wheels first though 👍
Volkswagen Drivers Club of Queensland - member 🙂

STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress

Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.

The above are personal views, no more, no less

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#767221
any idea if the custom veedub set are for sale?

STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#767301
go visit tomorrow & ask them 👍
Volkswagen Drivers Club of Queensland - member 🙂

STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress

Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.

The above are personal views, no more, no less

newghia stock is for people who cant think outside the square

679 posts · joined May 2008 ·

#767314
I am running a set of these with 185 / 55 / 15's on my type 3 ghia and it has very little clearance available,
cant remember which ET / offset i got though.
Step up to get out !!!

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#767391
Uber
are you running stock guards up front??
Futue te ipsum!!!

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#767413
I recieved an email reply from Richard. there is ony one set of the spyders left, and they are 2nd hand. $600...

come on payday!

funbug Seriously Crusin Dubber

135 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#767607


The Topline Maxx Struts cost much less to import than you would expect or could get locally.
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,476 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#767608
funbug wrote:
The Topline Maxx Struts cost much less to import than you would expect or could get locally.
long way to go for support and warranty.
all i can say is richard has gone well beyond expectation in looking after me and others.
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#767610
Without starting anything - has anyone had a set of Maxx engineered here??

Isnt the bottom cup held by a large circlip??
I believe the newer Maxx Extreme is a more direct comparison

Not sure if the Topline price is each or pair
All the others say pair - this one doesnt, and shocks not included
Futue te ipsum!!!

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#767637
engineer was happy with mine, so am i for that matter
nearly half the cost of anything i could get here and ride quality is great

jon is very thorough and has good quality control so the only reasons for warranty returns would be down to operator error

Barry, thats per pair, the lower perch is tapered so it clamps the snap ring in place so its not physically possible for it to come out of its slot.
even on the lowest setting the springs still have tension on the cups

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#767668
All of the topline gear looks good to me. Alot of my money will go there in the next few weeks.

BiX Veteran Volks Folk

2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#767708
Colonel,

Dependant on how muc rubber you want to fit under the front, other, cheaper options. I have 195/65r15 on empi 8 spokes under stock front guards on a L bug with stock dia spings. I have 30mm lower and 35% stiffer front springs on it . They are king springs, but not in the catalogue. I jsut used 30mm square rubber to space the guards out from the body.
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#767729
I also know of a set of the V force wheels, never fitted second hand, just not sure of the et though.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#767730
matberry wrote:I also know of a set of the V force wheels, never fitted second hand, just not sure of the et though.
where abouts?
How much?

should I pm you?

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#767734
Crikey your fast.

I need to check on the price, located in Bris. What about et for your car, I can check that too or just give you my mates contact and you can phone him direct.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#767737
I'd appreciate it if you could find out. 🙂 thanks!

I'm fast cause i just finished work and im doing my thing, then going to sleep. gettting up at 3 is hurting me!

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#767742
Set of spyders that were at customveedub are gone!

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#767743
PM sent
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE