Spoke to Richard tonight
He is trying to see who is interested first before he can get numbers/costs/design/colour/shoe size
What is wanted - rear seat in / out
Full / half
Post a preference of what you are after and Steve or I will pass on info
If REALLY interested Steve posted the phone number
Interested depending on cost and what configuration as already said pics or design would be good or at least of a description of how and where they are to mount.
I'd be looking at 6 point boltin one diag in main hoop and door bars . No rear seat to fit into 69 Cams approved is a must.
Craig Torrens6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
6 point, no back seat, very useable (ie entry at A pillar and window winders can operate), strong, legal; cams and dmt, weld in removeable?, connection type? and for 1200 clams I think it should be installed too.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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matberry wrote:and for 1200 clams I think it should be installed too.
I initially thought that sounds like a lot of $ also,
but after talking wth a couple of other guys who had cages done by shops,
that is not so bad.
I keep forgetting that it is now 2010,
and how most specialist shops are charging $100/hr or more.
On another topic,
it would be a real challenge to get a 45mm tube bent to clear both the dash and the window winders!
I think some guys went electric windows for that reason!
sheez hasn't anyone but Craig stuck their head in a hillclimb beetle for the last 20 years......99% are bonds roll bars
here's my old "bonds" alloy one......they run very tight with the inside of the car at the B pillar and in the roof areas.........obvouosly as DB pointed out they cant keep them too tight to the A pillar but it cut under the bottom of the dash within mm's and access was fine Matt. seat belt mount holes in B pillar were still useable.....window winders might have some interference. yes i can get it in and out with the body on the chassis still
new ones have correct specs for cams (STEEL, foot plate size, cross bar in hoop, proximity to roof, crush testings etc etc) yes they do side impact bars and i'm not sure, but thought the rear bars were moved to run to the wheel arches as where mine goes under the window has since been deemed not stong enough with the cams specs. so most likely they will run to there..........be an interesting group buy if everyone wants different specs, be like 20 people phoning in for their custom cages at once 😂
we need to get Richard on here to let us know the real details, but i hope this can provide some sort of insight to bondy's work
i might order one tomorrow and save waiting 😘
in steel....
notch has a bonds steel one (with a couple of extra alloy bars).........might get an idea of the locking system here........but hey maybe you want to weld it all up 🥲
i'm sure you all remember that I don't know shit anyways
Probably the best way is to do 1 or 2 basic cage designs that meet cams specs, ie Early beetle half cage, early beetle 6 point, Superbug 6 point.
decide if they will be weld or bolt in. Otherwise like somebody said its going to become everybody with a custom cage. If people want extra bars, bond can give a price for this per item and a cost for fitting for sydney people. The major cost would be in bending and forming the main front legs, main hoop, and rear bars and roof bar.
Just a thought. I would take one in kit form, weld in for a super. then get a local builder to weld it and add extra bars where I want them.
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
cams specs is not a problem, its his speciality...
yeah bondy already has the jigs to knock them up at will....guessing the idea is its cheaper to get them out, then set up... and knock out a dozen while he is at it
Win win situation
In the past, I have used Custom Vee Dub in Bris to bend my main hoops and any extra bits I want, from there I bring it home and fabricate it how I want for the individual car and purpose. Weather I weld it or get it tig'd up back at their shop, I get alot more for my money.
I'm sorry but that single bend A pillar doesn't cut it for me, nor does the bolt in clamp arrangements. My cages become intergrated suspension and driveline support, being for more than your average street car or race setup. That price is way high for a few tubes to start a build with. As Daimo explains above, the real winner I think would be mr bond.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE
Bond Roll Bars are making a cage for the 'new' No.8 Beetle. I've gone for the option of having them supply all the bits, and I will fit and weld them.
Roll cages are almost like snow-flakes - no two are the same. Allan and Peter at BRB were very helpful, and were happy to go along with what I wanted in the way of slight changes. They will measure your car if you want, or even do the whole job. Just make sure that you get the right one for YOUR car, and what's best for YOU!
Cheers, Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
Richard is the guy to talk to about this. To get a group buy they would need to be a standardised thing with extras fitted at the customers cost. So talk to Richard about your preference so that he can go to Bonds with group buy numbers and configurations.
I think it gave all of us a shock when we saw what happened to Greg Mackies car.
Were looking at putting 1/2 cage in David's bug, we will take the back seat out and have the hoops going to the back luggage area, David and I tall so we cant have a cross brace, we would go with a diagonal to the luggage area.
