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clinker42 Officially Full-On Dubber

381 posts · joined Aug 2008 ·

#783989
Guys
Fitted a SAAS steering wheel and boss kit to a 1973 beetle, I have clearance for fingers on the Indicator stalk but the windscreen wiper stalk is near touching the wheel. Is there different wiper stalks on different models.

Cheers

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#784125
NOPE...

that is a common problem...

You need to use a dished steering wheel...

I have a nice new wooden steering wheel which had the same problem..
hitting the blinker switch arm all the time...

I have seen people make spacers for the steering wheel..
usually out of alloy.. or made from another steering wheel boss

all the bosses I have seen are the same width...
so, they must be made for the deep dished steering wheels.

like the original VW ones...

LEE


PS: its a wonder someone doesn't make spacers for them..
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donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#784135
There are different stalks, some are cranked like yours others are straight, weather they are interchangeable I don't know.
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Uber Kafer Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·

#784204
Everyone except Waveman is guessing.

There are definitely different depth bosses, for exactly this problem. I have a flat wheel (non dished) and the boss is 100 mm long, and I get 50 mm clearance between the stalk and the wheel.

careful when ordering another boss as the shaft spline got smaller around 1975 onwards.

In answer to your specific question, it isnt so much different stalks, but on pre 1971-ish the wiper control was on the dash so that is probably the change year for bosses when ordering.

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#784205
We have sportz steering wheels on a few of our bugs and there is a good inch or more of clearance between the lever.
put a nice standard L bug steering wheel back on it.

or ask joel he will kno
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clinker42 Officially Full-On Dubber

381 posts · joined Aug 2008 ·

#784216
Just measured the Boss thats on this car and its 75mm. Will see if the shop has a really cheap boos and I will buy that and take a 25mm piece of that and use it as a spacer or just make up an inch spacer.

Thanks Guys

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#784218
problem here is that boss kit is the wrong one
Like uber said its the squat one for a dished wheel like this



you have 2 options get the correct boss, or the correct style wheel.

If you go the boss route check your splines first cos late 73 was the change over so it could be either or.

All bug/ghia/type3 column wiper switches were the same in aus. the straight ones Donn mentioned are baywindow kombi

bnicho Wolfsburg Wizard

436 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#785065
SAAS used to have two boss kits available for most cars - a BOSS for a dished wheel and a Super BOSS for flat wheels, which is wider.

(The MR2 I recently purchased had a Super BOSS and a deep dish wheel. You could hardly reach the stalks at all. 🙅)

Cheers,
Brett Nicholson
Melbourne, Victoria
1974 VW Superbug L - Olive 😎
1971 Morris Mini Moke - Mopoke
1966 Austin Mini - Audrey
1965 Morris Mini Traveller - Trixie
2007 Land Rover Freelander 2
2009 Nissan Pathfinder

STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#785073
hot tip guys, i have both short & long boss' one is saas, the other, wait for it.... is autotechnica, ordered it thru repco about 4-5yrs ago but should still be made, works fine with non dished wheels, the shorter one, obviously with dished wheel, i like the longer one though, ill try get pics up of the two together if you like?

(for 71' column though)

that said, the one in the pic up top looks like my long one.... measurements would help at the least, easiest option would be new slightly dishier wheel, or even from wreckers...
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#785095
waveman1500 wrote:How deep is your boss kit? I would say that you just need a deeper boss kit. My old Formuling wheel doesn't have much dish on it, but the boss kit is about 100mm deep and that spaces the wheel out nicely.
WOW... 100MM WOULD BE GREAT...

so, there are many short bosses for the dished wheels...
but many wheels aren't dished... lol

LEE
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STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#786031

short SAAS boss, i assume most of you would be familiar with this one? (75mm)

and this one...

autotechnica 100mm, ordered thru repco, id take a guess at saying autobarn would also have them, most likely order only

on a side note though i swapped my indicator only stalk for a later indicator/wiper setup & the wiper arm is SLIGHTLY closer to the wheel

your right about the dished wheels though, i cant find many in my travels, only about 10mm offset then there seems to be a void till about 75mm, short boss & super dished wheel may be the solution, its not cheap though 🙁
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STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress

Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.

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STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#786034
http://www.autotecnica.com.au/boss_kit_volkswagon.html

please excuse the retarded spelling efforts, they are mostly a rice rocket company
Volkswagen Drivers Club of Queensland - member 🙂

STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress

Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.

The above are personal views, no more, no less

bnicho Wolfsburg Wizard

436 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#786037
Interesting that an early Golf or Passat wheel fits my Super. I might have to look closely at these cars in wreckers in future!
Brett Nicholson
Melbourne, Victoria
1974 VW Superbug L - Olive 😎
1971 Morris Mini Moke - Mopoke
1966 Austin Mini - Audrey
1965 Morris Mini Traveller - Trixie
2007 Land Rover Freelander 2
2009 Nissan Pathfinder

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#786047
its actually a common spline to all the extended germany family - Porsche, vw and some audi all use that spline from 74 upto about 93 ish