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Forced induction via fan shroud (neighbours reminising ideas)...

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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#790453
This was an idea from an ol' mate that came down the road, hes a pal of mine and was reminising about his genuine manx and baja days, showing me photos...

He was saying that before he capped the heater ducts for his fan shroud, he rekons there was a great deal of pressure gushing out of it. and was thinking at the time yrs ago whether to have some filter element in line with the dual heater ducts on the fan shroud with dual carbs and perhaps get 1 or 2 psi or sumfin, assuming that the air doesn't get too warm from the oil cooler, and assumign that most of the heat comes from the heads 'after' it passes the heater ducts and doesn't interfer with the 'intake air temps'... unless u have small water to air intercoolers (the straight tube ones) prior to the carbs IF u wanna get so crazy for small psi....

What do you guys think? I got other plans for my donk, but thought, wow! this would be an interesting experiment! If it can run the pressure for the heater all the way up the front, why not use the fan shroud heater ducts for pressurised blow-through intake...

Chris.
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

waveman1500 Also rides a Honda

1,346 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#790454
A cold air intake scoop to the outside of the engine bay would be worth a lot more power than heating up the intake air by breathing through the fan shroud. I doubt that it would be able to generate any useful boost. For one thing, the system is open to the bottom of the engine still for cooling, so any air which might be pressurised will take the path of least resistance, ie. straight out through the cylinder fins. Hence, you would be supplying warm air at roughly atmospheric pressure.
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1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·

#790461
This would work like a very mild supercharger I would think, with oil cooler fan speed being proportional to crank speed.
Sounds like an intersting experiment, but the extra pressure may be neutralised by the raised air temp.
But I'd be intersted to know how it goes if you try it.

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#790467
Actually, if we are worried about the heat of the oil cooler, an external oil cooler could be fitted!

Because then it would get air directly from the fan before it has a chance to pass over anything hot. As you said with the system open to the bottom air, u would want some cold air intake for the fan shroud opening.... some form of massive duct.

As for air taking the path of least resistance, well i'm not sure, but when this guy was fittin his 'block off' tabs to the fan shroud, he rekons there was suprisingly quite alot of pressure coming out of those ducts when left open despite it also blowing over the cooling tin.

One could even upgrade the fan size. having the second route for the air over the cylinder heads would be the BOV when the throttle closes and no air path through the carb exists i guess. Only way is to give it a go!
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

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9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#790485
Do a search on TheSamba, I swear this topic comes up once a month
If it worked everyone would be doing it

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#790490
yawn 😂


71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#790491
I did it for a while, absolutely n noticable differnce at all

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#790497
Steal your wife's hairdryer or the Electrolux ... same result would be my guess.🤓

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#790518
vassy66T1 wrote:Steal your wife's hairdryer or the Electrolux ... same result would be my guess.🤓

That could only be detrimental to the household!😂
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#790523
or gafer tape a Stihl petrol leaf blower to the top of the carb 😂


bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#790553
bwhaha! i got one of those, well problem solved! 😂

fully sik GMC boost y'll 😂

Throw in a can of beans and i can be the dosed up blow off valve 🤓

wouldn't wanna get the local Beenleigh lads too jealous though... 🙂
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

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128 posts · joined Oct 2005 ·

#790570
Everybody in my house are farting into bottles. I was going to plum it into the vaccum port on the carby (fitted a Bosch 009 dizzy) to act as an octane boooster.

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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#790639
I remember years back. in a car mag they were selling electric hair dryer style turbos ( straight fan type not snail shaped).
calming around 10-20kw increase.

Also for a experiment me and my brother mocked up a large 12v blower to an escort 2L, which previous did 168kmh top speed, was increased to 180kmh flat.
I couldn't believe it ether but it defiantly did something. lol those were the days.

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