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Hey I just ordered a S200EXR today1303Steve wrote:Hi
I use these people http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/index.htm for online and personal camera purchases, good people to deal with.
I went into buy a DSLR and they talked me out of it as they didn't think it would suit my needs, they suggested a different camera which I then went home and researched and ended up buying.
I bought a Fuji Finepix S200 EXR
Steve
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jsheppard64 wrote:Hey I just ordered a S200EXR today1303Steve wrote:Hi
I use these people http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/index.htm for online and personal camera purchases, good people to deal with.
I went into buy a DSLR and they talked me out of it as they didn't think it would suit my needs, they suggested a different camera which I then went home and researched and ended up buying.
I bought a Fuji Finepix S200 EXR
Steve
HS10 seems to have more of a fancy functions tho
with DSLR I'd be spending more on lenses lol
AzzA_teu Casual Dubber
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Nope, that's completely incorrect about "cheaper parts".DubCrazy wrote:just be carefull, if its grey market its made with cheaper parts, no aussie warrenty at all and is never put togeather quite as well.. If they are offereing a warrenty its a ship back to country of build which means it could be months before you get your camara returned.
Depends on what your looking at there are great deals to be had here if you know where to look and are prepared to haggle, my wife is a photographer and everything has been brought in Australia for warrenty reasons(can't be with out a camara for very long) and we have managed to save thousands over list price. shop around is ur best bet, even places like hardly normal as they do offer match or beat by 10% prices and they have to by law give that if you can show/prove price which is quite easy.
steff.................
donn Wolfsburg Elder
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even places like hardly normal as they do offer match or beat by 10% prices and they have to by law give that if you can show/prove price which is quite easy.
steff.................
jsheppard64 Officially Full-On Dubber
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ahem...donn wrote:jsheppard64 wrote:Hey I just ordered a S200EXR today1303Steve wrote:Hi
I use these people http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/index.htm for online and personal camera purchases, good people to deal with.
I went into buy a DSLR and they talked me out of it as they didn't think it would suit my needs, they suggested a different camera which I then went home and researched and ended up buying.
I bought a Fuji Finepix S200 EXR
Steve
HS10 seems to have more of a fancy functions tho
with DSLR I'd be spending more on lenses lol
So where did you order it from?
Nobody out there know of a site to check on these online sellers?
Hmm, $35 shipping narrows it a tad but still very tempting
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I am not going to dive into a slanging match but the vast majoryity of grey import is not the same componants as this is how they make them cheaper. many times it has been shown to the be the case. The grey import stuff even feels different, i know u mite say its all in the mind but a friend has the same nikkon body as my wife but tis a grey and we weighed them and it was a fair bit lighter if they are the same they would weight roughly the same....AzzA_teu wrote:Nope, that's completely incorrect about "cheaper parts".
"Grey" imports are made exactly the same as the local products. They are made in the same factories by the same people and have the same warranty conditions. Only thing that differs is the region of the warranty, hence why many Grey import items don't have Australian warranty.
You are also wrong when you make the generalisation saying Grey Imports don't have Australian warranties. Most don't, but there are a number of items which in fact do have International warranties such as the Canon L series lenses (off the top of my head).
There are a number of Grey importers which have a better reputation of handling warranties than local retailers also. However you definitely do need to shop around. Grey import products are a trade-off. Considerably cheaper prices vs potential hassle of warranty and depending on the item you may not be saving much.
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jsheppard64 Officially Full-On Dubber
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sometimes it's the memory card write speed aswellwaveman1500 wrote:I would wait for the January sales and buy it locally, there should be some good buys to be had. I've got a Panasonic Lumix and am very happy with it. One thing which I find important in digital cameras is the amount of time which it takes to take the photo after you press the button, many digital cameras have a lag/delay of up to a second or more which I find very irritating. Then, depending on the mode which you are in some cameras can take several seconds to save and process the image before you are ready to take another photo.
AzzA_teu Casual Dubber
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DubCrazy wrote:I am not going to dive into a slanging match but the vast majoryity of grey import is not the same componants as this is how they make them cheaper. many times it has been shown to the be the case. The grey import stuff even feels different, i know u mite say its all in the mind but a friend has the same nikkon body as my wife but tis a grey and we weighed them and it was a fair bit lighter if they are the same they would weight roughly the same....AzzA_teu wrote:Nope, that's completely incorrect about "cheaper parts".
"Grey" imports are made exactly the same as the local products. They are made in the same factories by the same people and have the same warranty conditions. Only thing that differs is the region of the warranty, hence why many Grey import items don't have Australian warranty.
You are also wrong when you make the generalisation saying Grey Imports don't have Australian warranties. Most don't, but there are a number of items which in fact do have International warranties such as the Canon L series lenses (off the top of my head).
There are a number of Grey importers which have a better reputation of handling warranties than local retailers also. However you definitely do need to shop around. Grey import products are a trade-off. Considerably cheaper prices vs potential hassle of warranty and depending on the item you may not be saving much.
some people are more than happy useing grey imports and thats fine i personaly wouldn't touch them. its a choice.
at the end of the day people will buy what they want and as long as they are happy so be it...
steff.......................
Doctor Officially Full-On Dubber
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👍AzzA_teu wrote:Sorry mate that's just completely false.
Im not being rude, but you should probably learn the meaning of grey import before commenting any further. Its worth learning the difference as it could benefit you one day.
Not once has a manufacturer ever said there is a difference between the "manufacturing quality" of a grey import and local product. It's just not true. Are you under the impression that they manufacture cameras differently for Australia than every other country in the world?
Pricing is an infinitely more complex issue than claimed "manufacturing quality", but we can just look at simple supply and demand for starters. To give you an example, one of the U.S's largest camera retailers B&H sells more Canon camera equipment than the whole of Canon Australia. We are a minuscule market.
The only difference between grey market equipment and local stuff is the warranty conditions NOT quality. Most grey market gear needs to be sent back to the original country it was supplied to. Then there is some grey market equipment that has international warranty and can we serviced/repaired locally with no dramas at all. It's up to the individual whether or not they want to accept the potential hassle of sending overseas for replacement or repair if they don't have international warranty.
Oh, to throw another spanner in the works, one can even buy a Mack International warranty for piece mind.
DubCrazy wrote:I am not going to dive into a slanging match but the vast majoryity of grey import is not the same componants as this is how they make them cheaper. many times it has been shown to the be the case. The grey import stuff even feels different, i know u mite say its all in the mind but a friend has the same nikkon body as my wife but tis a grey and we weighed them and it was a fair bit lighter if they are the same they would weight roughly the same....AzzA_teu wrote:Nope, that's completely incorrect about "cheaper parts".
"Grey" imports are made exactly the same as the local products. They are made in the same factories by the same people and have the same warranty conditions. Only thing that differs is the region of the warranty, hence why many Grey import items don't have Australian warranty.
You are also wrong when you make the generalisation saying Grey Imports don't have Australian warranties. Most don't, but there are a number of items which in fact do have International warranties such as the Canon L series lenses (off the top of my head).
There are a number of Grey importers which have a better reputation of handling warranties than local retailers also. However you definitely do need to shop around. Grey import products are a trade-off. Considerably cheaper prices vs potential hassle of warranty and depending on the item you may not be saving much.
some people are more than happy useing grey imports and thats fine i personaly wouldn't touch them. its a choice.
at the end of the day people will buy what they want and as long as they are happy so be it...
steff.......................
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+ 1. "grey Imports in aus, are just what you get from the main factory of the maker of the product.Doctor wrote:👍 👍
Saved me typing it!
👍AzzA_teu wrote:Sorry mate that's just completely false.
Im not being rude, but you should probably learn the meaning of grey import before commenting any further. Its worth learning the difference as it could benefit you one day.
Not once has a manufacturer ever said there is a difference between the "manufacturing quality" of a grey import and local product. It's just not true. Are you under the impression that they manufacture cameras differently for Australia than every other country in the world?
Pricing is an infinitely more complex issue than claimed "manufacturing quality", but we can just look at simple supply and demand for starters. To give you an example, one of the U.S's largest camera retailers B&H sells more Canon camera equipment than the whole of Canon Australia. We are a minuscule market.
The only difference between grey market equipment and local stuff is the warranty conditions NOT quality. Most grey market gear needs to be sent back to the original country it was supplied to. Then there is some grey market equipment that has international warranty and can we serviced/repaired locally with no dramas at all. It's up to the individual whether or not they want to accept the potential hassle of sending overseas for replacement or repair if they don't have international warranty.
Oh, to throw another spanner in the works, one can even buy a Mack International warranty for piece mind.
DubCrazy wrote:I am not going to dive into a slanging match but the vast majoryity of grey import is not the same componants as this is how they make them cheaper. many times it has been shown to the be the case. The grey import stuff even feels different, i know u mite say its all in the mind but a friend has the same nikkon body as my wife but tis a grey and we weighed them and it was a fair bit lighter if they are the same they would weight roughly the same....AzzA_teu wrote:Nope, that's completely incorrect about "cheaper parts".
"Grey" imports are made exactly the same as the local products. They are made in the same factories by the same people and have the same warranty conditions. Only thing that differs is the region of the warranty, hence why many Grey import items don't have Australian warranty.
You are also wrong when you make the generalisation saying Grey Imports don't have Australian warranties. Most don't, but there are a number of items which in fact do have International warranties such as the Canon L series lenses (off the top of my head).
There are a number of Grey importers which have a better reputation of handling warranties than local retailers also. However you definitely do need to shop around. Grey import products are a trade-off. Considerably cheaper prices vs potential hassle of warranty and depending on the item you may not be saving much.
some people are more than happy useing grey imports and thats fine i personaly wouldn't touch them. its a choice.
at the end of the day people will buy what they want and as long as they are happy so be it...
steff.......................
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