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20bkombi Wolfsburg Wizard

597 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#832196
flattop wrote:What trans do you use?? I have a reverce pattern manual value body for a bus trans. If you are interested let me know..
Wayne
In my wife's 71 type 3, I'm running a 76 bus differential housing (4.09r/p), and auto case which is tapped out for a trans brake and cooler. It has Audi 5000 4 geard planetrys and valve body, Audi 100 D/R drum modified with an extra release ball, drilled out oil entry gaeries, removed some return springs and clearanced to fit 5x clutches, I have 5 in the forward pack aswell. Useing old style thrust bearings (brass) and sone neadle rollers where posible.
There's more mods too.
I have the line pressure set at 175psi with a leaver to the throttle valve for street/race use.

I'm very interested in your man v/b, sending you a pm.

Aaron.
AARON'S SPEED SHIFT AUTOS
Specialising in Vw automatic transmissions, differentials and torque converters
Stock or modified to suit your application (street, drag, off road)
Ph 0402 233 027

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#832295
Me too.

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#832340
Me 3!!!
Although not just yet, I haven't even got the project yet, let alone anything else, just bits!😂

I did find out though, for future reference, the Cali Proformance Motoring automatic drag bug got a full manual reverse VB from TCS,
http://www.tcsperformance.com/
His beetle has run a low10 with the auto.
http://www.proformancemotoring.com/fireball.htm
Way faster than I'm aiming for. I think 12.91, 12.92, 12.91, 12.915, etc, ought to irritate a few people in ANDRA-land. It would bloody annoy me!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#832350
modnrod wrote:Me 3!!!
Although not just yet, I haven't even got the project yet, let alone anything else, just bits!😂

I did find out though, for future reference, the Cali Proformance Motoring automatic drag bug got a full manual reverse VB from TCS,
http://www.tcsperformance.com/
His beetle has run a low10 with the auto.
http://www.proformancemotoring.com/fireball.htm
Way faster than I'm aiming for. I think 12.91, 12.92, 12.91, 12.915, etc, ought to irritate a few people in ANDRA-land. It would bloody annoy me!
That car is now owned by Mick Motors and has raced the last 3 VW Warwick events.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

flattop Learner Dubber

13 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#832361
Is there a big difference between the type 2 and the type 3 auto. Which is better or is that a apples and orange question.. I have been using a type 2 auto for ten years with little problems. I do not know of any one here using a type 3 auto for racing...

Wayne
Still playing with toys after all these years....😎

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#832398
The other guys know more about them than me, but from what I can gather the actual transmission section is the same basically, as in they have the same bolt pattern as each other and the Audi5000, etc. The bus auto is cast iron with the bigger R&P, same for your Vanagon, the Type III is alloy, 2 spider gear, smaller R&P, but quite a bit lighter.
I know there are other differences (eg. 003, 010, etc), but basically thats it I think.

While I'm here, does 20BKombi/NBTurbo/Seagull or Dave know if you can fit a Quaife or 4 spiders into the TypeIII auto housing?

mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#832430
The Kombi's used two different autos, the 1700 and 1800 used the 003/2 while the 2L had the 010. The type 3 and type 4 uses the 003 with the mag alloy bellhousing/diffhousing and cast steel diff carrier.The valve bodies for the 003s were basically the same(five different governor/valve body combinations) with the type 2 and 4 having a valve assembly with a 3-2 accumulator. The 003/2 in the type 2 has the heavy cast steel bellhousing/diff.

Auto/diff sections are not interchangable between the 003 and 010.

The Bentley for the type 3 and Vanagon T3 have a good sections on the autos. I have a scanned copy of genuine VW service manual for the 003 auto section and the 003/2 diff section.
Quote of the week
"Do I wish to send them to you again, nope, no interest can't be bothered really, to much hassle for little or no return."

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#832494
The 2 types of heavy cast iron diff sections for the Kombi's are also way different internally.I tried to fit my spool into a 003 equipped diff,and there is no way it would fit in,the carrier bearings and adjuster cones are different.

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#832496
""I do not know of any one here using a type 3 auto for racing...""

I have a Type 3 auto in my Oval with a Type 4 engine and I have drag raced it a fair bit with no issues.I had a lot of work done to it to take the big increase in torque that was heading it's way.

flattop Learner Dubber

13 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#832503
Thanks.

Is there many different R & P for the type 2 and 3 ?? Will the type 3 R & P fit a type 2????

Wayne
Still playing with toys after all these years....😎

20bkombi Wolfsburg Wizard

597 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#919116
flattop wrote:Thanks.

Is there many different R & P for the type 2 and 3 ?? Will the type 3 R & P fit a type 2????

Wayne
Hi Wayne 4.36 (1800 bus) or 4.09 (2L bus) would fit yours. Do you know which one you have?
AARON'S SPEED SHIFT AUTOS
Specialising in Vw automatic transmissions, differentials and torque converters
Stock or modified to suit your application (street, drag, off road)
Ph 0402 233 027

20bkombi Wolfsburg Wizard

597 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#919126
This is a race converter I made for Wayne Goddard, unfortunately his engine failed when testing but still got some half track and 60ft times.
The old converter stalled to 3500rpm on the trans brake with 1.68 to 1.70 60ft's.
This one I made stalls to 4200rpm using the trans brake with 1.56 60ft
That's awesome for a NA vw engine.












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AARON'S SPEED SHIFT AUTOS
Specialising in Vw automatic transmissions, differentials and torque converters
Stock or modified to suit your application (street, drag, off road)
Ph 0402 233 027

20bkombi Wolfsburg Wizard

597 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#919128
The next converter I make for my new type3 notch will be billet aluminum and be able to unbolt to change turbines, stators and for servicing.
Being billet I can make it with some total lockup clutches using a 12v solenoid so the ecu can control it.
AARON'S SPEED SHIFT AUTOS
Specialising in Vw automatic transmissions, differentials and torque converters
Stock or modified to suit your application (street, drag, off road)
Ph 0402 233 027

lou0060 Wolfsburg Wizard

568 posts · joined Dec 2010 ·

#919141
and all this with one eye....

Aaron, you're a freak!
1971 karmann ghia Cabrio - Cruising 👍
1963 beetle Sunroof - gathering dust 🥲
1968 race beetle - twin turbo Subaru - stress relief 😁
1960 beetle - old school low & slow 😏

20bkombi Wolfsburg Wizard

597 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#919169
lou0060 wrote:and all this with one eye....

Aaron, you're a freak!
No this was quite a few months back when I had good sight.

I hope that Wayne and his wife Angela (crew chief) from Canada, get the bug back together for some more runs soon.
AARON'S SPEED SHIFT AUTOS
Specialising in Vw automatic transmissions, differentials and torque converters
Stock or modified to suit your application (street, drag, off road)
Ph 0402 233 027

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#919172
Guess I had better get an early order in for one of the billet ally units. Like how your always doing stand out research into the auto trans path-you are a credit to the VW Drag Community.