krusher74 Learner Dubber
19 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·
Hi, has anyone got there subaru swapped vw onto a dyno yet, was just interested to see that number they put to the ground compared to what subaru said that engine put out?
Subaru swap on a dyno results?
helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body
7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
EJ22 in bus
76KW (101hp)at the back wheels.
That would be about 135hp at the engine!
76KW (101hp)at the back wheels.
That would be about 135hp at the engine!
seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
EJ20 n/a quad cam
121 hp with wheel spin in top gear ( my trike )
2" exhaust , cat , 400mm home made muffler
121 hp with wheel spin in top gear ( my trike )
2" exhaust , cat , 400mm home made muffler
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krusher74 Learner Dubber
19 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·
According the Wiki the ej221 makes 133hp and the Ej222 142hp so your right on the money.helbus wrote:EJ22 in bus
76KW (101hp)at the back wheels.
That would be about 135hp at the engine!
DubCrazy Custom Title Time!
1,295 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
EA82T 112 bhp at the wheels and after it was freshend up 120bhp at wheels...
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Fastie Officially Full-On Dubber
217 posts · joined Apr 2010 ·
Hey Jak, what kind of gearbox/es have you gathered those kms with. Just looking at my options now - and thinking of starting with a Rancho
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2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·
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ratbug aka toddy101
439 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
My 2.0L EJ20 Quad cam was 110Hp atw stock ECU, 125Hp microtec ECU.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
Sharbuilt Beach buggy with Subaru 2L Turbo
Thunderanch Riot with Subaru 2L Turbo
Manxter with FA20turbo
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Thunderanch Riot with Subaru 2L Turbo
Manxter with FA20turbo
Click here for wiring looms
krusher74 Learner Dubber
19 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·
Cool , so you gained 15hp with the aftermarket ecu.ratbug wrote:My 2.0L EJ20 Quad cam was 110Hp atw stock ECU, 125Hp microtec ECU.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
ratbug aka toddy101
439 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Apparently, Was at the same shop on the same dyno. The operator said I could probably get 10-20hp extra with aftermarket ECU... he tuned it and yeah got 15hp extra... BUT i didnt really notice it. It seemed to just have a bit more top end power. Although it had more power on paper it wasnt as good, harder to start, sometimes played up, the tuner wasnt really up on subies.... So when I did my new car with the turbo engine, i stayed with the stock ecu. Sure an aftermarket ecu is better on a turbo, but just couldnt be bothered again.krusher74 wrote:Cool , so you gained 15hp with the aftermarket ecu.ratbug wrote:My 2.0L EJ20 Quad cam was 110Hp atw stock ECU, 125Hp microtec ECU.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
Sharbuilt Beach buggy with Subaru 2L Turbo
Thunderanch Riot with Subaru 2L Turbo
Manxter with FA20turbo
Click here for wiring looms
Thunderanch Riot with Subaru 2L Turbo
Manxter with FA20turbo
Click here for wiring looms
krusher74 Learner Dubber
19 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·
In simple terms what I have read/heard, is that due to emissions and catalytic converters (and tuning to cover all atmospheric conditions around the planet) most stock ecu maps are set up for stoich 14.6 to 1 fuel air ratio.ratbug wrote:Apparently, Was at the same shop on the same dyno. The operator said I could probably get 10-20hp extra with aftermarket ECU... he tuned it and yeah got 15hp extra... BUT i didnt really notice it. It seemed to just have a bit more top end power. Although it had more power on paper it wasnt as good, harder to start, sometimes played up, the tuner wasnt really up on subies.... So when I did my new car with the turbo engine, i stayed with the stock ecu. Sure an aftermarket ecu is better on a turbo, but just couldnt be bothered again.krusher74 wrote:Cool , so you gained 15hp with the aftermarket ecu.ratbug wrote:My 2.0L EJ20 Quad cam was 110Hp atw stock ECU, 125Hp microtec ECU.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
So where an after market ecu/engine chipping can help is you can go to 12.5/13 to 1 heavy throttle and get more power and run 16.5/17 to 1 at part throttle and get better mpgs.
A rich mix is easier ignited and a lean mix is harder to light and slow burning so you take full advantage of these wider ranging fuel mixes you also need to adjust your spark timing map.
I'm thinking your dyno guy adjusted your fuel map to get you the extra 15hp but did not dial in the spark timing, hence you did not like it.
JVLRacing Custom Title Time!
1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·
Not the same motor as urs......cause it has 242hp!!Jak Rizzo wrote:Andrew's fastback with the same motor as mine, same Microtech running from memory the stock? 13.5psi boost & slightly bigger exhaust has 242hp at the wheels. Pretty nice for a factory engine.
Jak
The setup is alot neater😘
seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
I had a metal cat on mine and it helped over the stock cat
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krusher74 Learner Dubber
19 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·
What is a metal cat? (not that I actually ever want to own a car new enough to have a cat)seagull wrote:I had a metal cat on mine and it helped over the stock cat
modulus Veteran Volks Folk
2,009 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
What is a metal cat?
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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
EJ22 open deck motor, forged pistons, wrx heads Vf37 turbo
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