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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#852363
Paulc1964au wrote:So I assume a stroker engine is really more for racing or drag racing rather than for a daily?
NO, truck loads are used as daily drivers.


Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#852383
Both can build longer stroke or "stroker" motors.👍


matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#852423
Any size can be built, just the bigger they get the more effort goes into building them. There are many different combinations that give improved performance, the final size can depend on many variables and there as many differing opinions out there as there are engine builders.
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zayus Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#852455
Hi Paul,

Here is a very simple description, that I can understand! 🙂

Pistons are attached to the crank.
The crank turns and the pistons move from side to side.
The stroke, is the distance the piston travels.

A stroker crank, increases the distance that the piston travels.
The increased stoke allows the engine to breathe in a greater amount of air and fuel.
More air & fuel means more power.

The advantage of the stroker crank, is that engine can consume a greater amount of air & fuel turn @ a slower RPM, EG: good for a daily driver.

A simple comparison is, an adult running alongside a child.
The adult is the stroker crank, the child is the standard crank.
Both run 50 metres.
The adult covers the distance in less steps, than the child, because their stride (stoke) is longer than the childs stride.

Paul, I can't build an engine, but I try to have a simple understanding of how hot-rodding an engine works 🙂

Oh yeah, simple diagrams help too... they will be in tomorrow's lesson!

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#852483
A simple comparison is, an adult running alongside a child.
The adult is the stroker crank, the child is the standard crank.
Both run 50 metres.
The adult covers the distance in less steps, than the child, because their stride (stoke) is longer than the childs stride.



Cool, but this adult runs outa puff quicker than the kid. 😂🙄
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Pumba Veteran Volks Folk

2,138 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#852536
My new project will be running a stock 36hp,so who wants a race😂
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vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#852541
Paulc1964au wrote:So would a 1916 stroker be the way to go? and then what cam, carbs , exhaust would you all recommend
A 1916cc is the standard 69mm stroke with 94mm pistons.
A stroker motor (longer stroke crank) is larger than 69mm, usually from 72mm upwards.
For everyday practicality the key is to get the performance without running the compression up high or using a bigger cam.
It is all in the combo. Find someone that has a good combo and find out what has gone into it. You can spend a lot of money in parts that don't really gel into a good package for an engine.
That would suck.
As I am sure I have said plenty of times the combo in my 2165cc is absolutely excellent. In a beetle you could go up in the cam to an engle 120 and still be happy I feel.
The 6K will be okay for parts but the assembly and machining would need to be an additional.

Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!

1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#852545
thanks Marcus that is great information. I want an engine that will idle fine and not too loud but when you put your foot down will have enough low down power to have some fun (within the speed limit of course) I will also be driving the wife around on weekends so cant have something too loud lol
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vvwbeetle Officially Full-On Dubber

234 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#852568
Hi Paul

More than happy to take you for a run in my car!

Now I have it. I need places to go and people to drive around with.

I am putting the car in storage for a few weeks while I get a new kitchen built.(I need the room in my garage to store items and I don't want dust getting on it or anything banging into it.)

So when I get it back more than happy to take you for a spin. Just let me know. Simon.

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#852572
I've just purchased a 2054 from Rod Penrose.

It's 94 bore and 74 stroke.

I was told that 74 is the largest stroke you can go to before the case starts to need clearancing.

Has a very mild Scat C20 cam (basically stock)

Will be going into my daily driver Baja, with a pair of Kadrons. I do at least 600km a week.

It's not going to be a super fast engine but it has around 108hp at the flywheel which is twice what I have at the moment. Will be very torquey and a nice daily driver engine.

With any luck I'll have it installed in a few weeks and I can let you know what it's like.


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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#852649
Hey Seb, you are closer to Rod than Smiley is - he is in Yeppoon in Queensland. Have a look on a map. :-)
From your ole' mate Jeff

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#852659
Paulc1964au wrote:Cool smiley am interested to see how you go i saw that engine down at Rods last week.
It looks real pretty. I can't wait to drive it 😍


beetleboyjeff wrote:Hey Seb, you are closer to Rod than Smiley is - he is in Yeppoon in Queensland. Have a look on a map. :-)
It's not that far! Barely 2 days drive!


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SebastienPeek Custom Title Time!

1,657 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#852661
Ah, I am going to contact Stan about getting myself a mean 1916cc twin port, we'll see what happens!

I'd be up for a two day drive in Zelda any time though, something I would do in a heartbeat 🙂

🙂
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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#852665
If you do, try and time it so you can go to the Sawtell winter break or Valla - they are both just down the road from Stan's.

Also, if you do, let us know - I would love to catch up with you - Stan is only about 2 hrs from my place.
From your ole' mate Jeff

Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!

1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#852684
SebastienPeek wrote:Ah, I am going to contact Stan about getting myself a mean 1916cc twin port, we'll see what happens!

I'd be up for a two day drive in Zelda any time though, something I would do in a heartbeat 🙂

🙂
Let us know what he says and approx costs
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SebastienPeek Custom Title Time!

1,657 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#852685
Will do Paul,
I've got to figure out exactly what I want first though.

Seems the best way to achieve what I want is probably to have the same budget as yours.
It won't be a stroker, as there is no point. 69mm crank and that is the largest it'll go.
Basically, to make it a stable daily driver, but with enough up and go to scare the pants off of people at the lights.
The sold one, '73 VW 1303 - Zelda
The project, '74 VW 1303 - Gretl

Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!

1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#852690
SebastienPeek wrote:Will do Paul,
I've got to figure out exactly what I want first though.

Seems the best way to achieve what I want is probably to have the same budget as yours.
It won't be a stroker, as there is no point. 69mm crank and that is the largest it'll go.
Basically, to make it a stable daily driver, but with enough up and go to scare the pants off of people at the lights.
I think we are after the same specs be interesting what Stan suggests
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SebastienPeek Custom Title Time!

1,657 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#852691
Will definitely be interesting what Stan says,
would love to see the comparison between Stan and Rod.
Doubt it'll be very much, but even still...

I'm surprised I haven't seen any Gene Berg engines on here, anyone got one?
The sold one, '73 VW 1303 - Zelda
The project, '74 VW 1303 - Gretl