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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#852735
I'm not convinced it's a Volksy engine at all... the size, weight and general "chunkiness" of everything... I reckon it's from a tractor or somethin (as in a tractor puller).

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Frikken awesome Rod... can't wait to see and hear it run !!!
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RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#852741
This is what the block looks like with the front cover installed . In the 3rd pic you can see that I have threaded a hole under the Pauter signature for a camshaft sync sensor for the Motec computer .

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1968 Beetle fastest run 8.96 sec @ 161 mph 4th Nov. 2001
2010 New Beetle 8.12 sec on 8th march 2014
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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#852783
thats a pretty serious looking drag engine.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#852847
ok what sort of fuel going in this ?? and how many litres needed to go do the 1/4 mile???
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BeetleJuice Officially Full-On Dubber

350 posts · joined Sep 2006 ·

#852865
The engineering at Pauter is 2nd to none. Must be a pleasure to work on!😎
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#852868
Sides wrote:I'm not convinced it's a Volksy engine at all... the size, weight and general "chunkiness" of everything...
Hi

It uses a brass VW timing gear by the look of it.

Rod the stock crank in that comparison photo looks like the one that I traded in on the stroker for Davids bug.

Steve

RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#852884
Here are the large head studs installed . These will be torqued to 65 ft/lb's rather than the 28 ft/lb's on the vw studs . You can now see the difference in the one piece aluminium modular cylinder assembly when compared to the std vw unit .

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1968 Beetle fastest run 8.96 sec @ 161 mph 4th Nov. 2001
2010 New Beetle 8.12 sec on 8th march 2014
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Governor Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#852889
Great looking engine but a question?, when do we stop actually calling it a VW engine as there are no parts in this made by VW??

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 ·

#852949
Black64 wrote:Great looking engine but a question?, when do we stop actually calling it a VW engine as there are no parts in this made by VW??
yeah that is true there is not stock or moded vw parts
and the same goes for a lot of bug engines not one bolt is vw
matara wrote:Looking forward to reading about this build! 1000hp is Veyron territory in a Beetle!!!

Good luck with the build Rod

Cheers

Steve
yes but it will be way lighter then the veyron !
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RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#852953
Here are some pic's with the cylinders installed . The cylinders are installed first and then the piston and rods are installed as one unit as in a conventional engine . In the first pic I have placed a std 1600cc piston in the cylinders for a comparison . Notice how the top of the cylinders are flat and not inserted into the head like a vw cylinder . If you look close , you will notice a small groove on the top of the sleeves . This is machined here because the heads have a steel oring on them that will actually push the copper head gaskets intothe top of the cylinders to create a better seal . The system has been proven at over 50 psi boost .

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1968 Beetle fastest run 8.96 sec @ 161 mph 4th Nov. 2001
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#853127
I can spot 2 genuine VW parts

the cam lobes are nice
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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Wired1 Learner Dubber

14 posts · joined Jul 2011 ·

#853375
How do you cool the cylinders? or is it only for short runs?
Awesome, goes without saying.
1974 beetle - 1967 baja project - 1963 beetle project

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#853389
Dizzy drive and the brass gear ??


fullnoise Fahrvergnugen

964 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#853390
You are mad. But in a good way.

I am speechless. Some would argue that's good too.

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#853400
Brass drive and circlip

I reckon there are 5 more, unseen though.
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Governor Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#853580
What ever it's called you would have to change the title as it's not a VW engine.

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#853582
Black64 wrote:What ever it's called you would have to change the title as it's not a VW engine.
here we go

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#853593
What's the line that JVL normally throws in about popcorn ???

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Keep the pics coming Rod... hopefully no veil of secrecy coming down on this baby as Warwick gets closer !!!
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RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#853689
Here in these pics you can see how the sump has been machined with a groove for an o'ring seal . The base of the cylinders are also machined for an o'ring so no sealant is required . You can also see a pic of the piston and rod assembled and ready to be installed into the cylinder . I have had a venturie ring made to the size of the bore to make the piston easy to install .

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1968 Beetle fastest run 8.96 sec @ 161 mph 4th Nov. 2001
2010 New Beetle 8.12 sec on 8th march 2014
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RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#853691
In these pic's you can see the one piece .040 copper head gasket . You can also see the steel o'ring in the head that will push the head gasket into the barrel groove .

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1968 Beetle fastest run 8.96 sec @ 161 mph 4th Nov. 2001
2010 New Beetle 8.12 sec on 8th march 2014
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VolksVair Officially Full-On Dubber

252 posts · joined Apr 2010 ·

#853694
Its going to need one hell of a tuff drive train to transmit all that HP to the ground, thats one sick puppy, I am enjoying this assembly, thankyou
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whathaveidone Custom Title Time!

1,559 posts · joined Feb 2010 ·

#853716
Stanley wrote:
Black64 wrote:What ever it's called you would have to change the title as it's not a VW engine.
here we go
My thoughts exactly Stanly. Who cares what engine it is!!! Its based on a VW engine, Its going in a VW based car and will be way better than any thing most of us can ever imagine building!!!! Lets cut all the crap and just look at the photos and read Rods posts. Sorry Rod couldnt help myself😬😬

Camo Custom Title Time!

1,936 posts · joined Oct 2007 ·

#853792
Rod,

is there a steal o-ring that goes on either side of that copper head gasket, I just cant see in the photos ??

Kev
I thought rebuilding a VW would be cheap - Shit I was wrong, just don't let the wife know !!!!

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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#853991
btw - possibly a dumb question Rod... but is this the actual assembly of the engine we're seeing, or are you just test fitting parts at this point ???
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'70 Hillclimb Bug 'Jezebel' w/- Haltech EFI - http://bit.ly/VwTNtQ
'60 KG Coupe - resto kinda started
01 New Beetle - gf's car, but I turn the spanners

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#854150
Keep smiling Rod

Those V8 comparisons.....at least the crank, heads and most of the components will 'fit' a production engine. Not the case with the Pauter. Vw based, yep all the way for me. VW....well not much really, but lets face it, who can make 1000hp from a 1600 with a mag case????????


Thanks for sharing the build Rod.
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RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#855295
I have been waiting on some more fittings to arrive as I have confirmation from the guys @ Pauter to redesign the oiling system to suit my specific needs . The fuel that I will use will be methanol with a shot of nitrous oxide/sunoco racing fuel for some extra kick . This engine only uses 1 genuine VW part , that being the brass distributor drive gear on the crankshaft , and even that has to be modified . I still call it a VW engine as it will bolt to any VW transmission , and with a bit of machining the crank could be installed into a std case , the cam could be used and almost every other part as well . The engine is going together for the final time and when the new components arrive I will continue with the assembly . I have also ordered the new components from Lenco that will allow me to monitor the clutch slippage . I also need to mount the vacuum pump , alternator and the strater motor that is mounted from the engine side now , ROD.
More boost + More fuel = More power
1968 Beetle fastest run 8.96 sec @ 161 mph 4th Nov. 2001
2010 New Beetle 8.12 sec on 8th march 2014
http://www.rodpenroseracing.com.au

RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#858844
I have received the parts I have been waiting for and can now finish the final assembly . Here is a comparison between a std VW lifter and the Pauter roller lifter . In the last pic is a std VW pushrod and the Pauter dual tapered moly unit .

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1968 Beetle fastest run 8.96 sec @ 161 mph 4th Nov. 2001
2010 New Beetle 8.12 sec on 8th march 2014
http://www.rodpenroseracing.com.au

RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#858845
Here is the Pauter aluminium pushrod tube . It is a 2 piece spring loaded deal that can be adjusted to suit any width engine by re-positioning the circlip in a different groove . These use a std type 1 seal at the engine end , and a larger t3 seal in the centre and head end .

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More boost + More fuel = More power
1968 Beetle fastest run 8.96 sec @ 161 mph 4th Nov. 2001
2010 New Beetle 8.12 sec on 8th march 2014
http://www.rodpenroseracing.com.au