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AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853322
Bought a new 6v battery, installed into car - get headlights/radio/wipers/dash lights - but only a click when I try to start.

Cleaned all connections, earth point on body for earth strap, no change. Just a a click.

However, car will start and then run if I jump start it with a spare 12v battery i have here. I then drive the car around for 30mins or so, come home, try and start after shutting down - just the faint click again.

What are other things I should consider looking at to fault find?

The new battery is a Supercharge (model N03) 6V 250CCA, is this not enough?

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#853391
Is the new battery fully charged
???starter motor or starter motor bush in gearbox worn.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#853392
do you have the earth strap from the gearbox to the chassis ? Is it in good condition ?


AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853477
Thanks gents, will have a look - worst case I'll take it to a auto elec.

Cheers

Lucky Phil Wolfsburg Wizard

480 posts · joined Aug 2010 ·

#853480
ian.mezz wrote:Is the new battery fully charged
A new battery will only be half charged at best.
Considering the low voltage to start with, any voltage drops in the system will be more noticeable. I would give the battery a really good charging before anything else.

AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853493
Thanks Phil - it's on charge as we speak, crossing fingers that's the cause.

AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853585
Battery fully charged, still doesn't start. Was hoping it was as simple as that.

Time to start looking at starter/solenoid and look for this other earth strap.

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#853587
OK, I'll be the one that asks the dumb question... it's definitely a 6V system in the car still, yeah ???
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AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853590
I hope, it's what the previous owner told me it was. My first VW so not really sure what Im looking at, it needed a jump start to drive it home when I bought it.

How do I check whether its 12 or 6 to make sure?

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#853592
Ahh, right - fair enuff.

A decent pic of the engine bay we might be able to tell... if it's been obviously converted to 12V with a different generator or regulator setup for example.

Best way to be 100% is to get the engine running (jump start it if needed) and then measure the Voltage coming out of the Generator... basically get a multimeter and measure the Voltage between the main charging cable (D+) and Earth.

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btw - if it is a 12V converted car... giving it 6V I'm surprised the starter would even go click !!!

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AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853643
Just checked, got a 6 volt coil so guessing its definetly a 6 volt system.

Thanks for everyones help, its booked into an auto electrician for tomorrow morning - will let them sort out the issue.

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#853647
Hmm, yeah - 6V coil doesn't necessarily mean a 6V system, but no worries - your auto sparky should be able to sort it out for ya !!!

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AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853692
Engine bay

AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853750
Ta.

AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#853853
ratty 63 wrote:my money is on a worn starter and/or bush.... 👍

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BINGO!! Was a worn starter.

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#853869
Cool - good you've gotten it sorted !!!

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AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#854079
Wouldn't read about it though... driving home from the auto electrician this afternoon - accelerator cable went, car had to be towed. Ah the joys!

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1,083 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#854158
Should have just grabbed the spare one from under the seat and fitted it right there and then.... you do have a spare one don't you? 😁

It wouldn't be a VW if it didn't test you from time to time....

Perhaps it would be a good time to invest in a spare clutch cable... I have a spare of both accelerator and clutch cables stashed under the back seat of my '63 Bug, along with a spare set of points and a spare condenser. Haven't needed any of them yet... but that is only because I have them with me 😂

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