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What has Dave Been Up To? 29th AUG 2015: 10.66@126.09mph!!

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#878857
cam is in and dialled,
pistons are notched some more,
heads are done, exhausts ported and new springs.
Berg exhaust has arrived today, 2 1/8", but will modify.
Waiting on some new rods from pauter.

Lots to do before Feb:
Engine,
Dyno,
Fresh trans,
test and tune.
Lose another 5KG.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#878860
dangerous wrote:Lose another 5KG.
The morning constitution will do that... 😂
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#880221
On closer inspection, the Berg exhaust was not up to their former reputation, so began from scratch.



westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#880225
👍👍

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#880243
Looks nice DB.

So there was nothing you could do with the berg pipes?

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#880261
I've heard that.... Aren't the headers made by Phoenix for them?..... The quality control is not like it used to be.... Sad..... Just bought some stuff off the BERG's last week.... Hose's and such.... Hope they are still the best out there.
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#880342
Stanley wrote:Looks nice DB.

So there was nothing you could do with the berg pipes?
I am sure they would have worked fine,
but I needed to extend the tubes to clear my fuel pump, and this would have put everything too far rearward.
Also, the collector is quite ugly on the inside, with lots of mig weld.

The tubing is also only .040" thick,
so by the time I did all the mods, I thought it would be best to start from scratch with .062" wall tubes. I did use a part of the stinger though.

$720 and 8 weeks wait is a lot for a stinger.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#880350
Dave-what are you using the new crank trigger for?What system is it firing?

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#880388
$720 and 8 weeks wait is a lot for a stinger.
Ouch!!!

For next time you build one Dave, these guys sent me out rolled megs, flanges, etc, for my bike. Nice people to deal with.....

http://www.coneeng.com/conical_products.html

Just in case you don't have your own favourite supplier.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#880410
nbturbo wrote:Dave-what are you using the new crank trigger for?What system is it firing?
Now using the MSD powergrid system.



Just to clarify, the $720 was the cost including delivery of the entire Berg 2 1/8" exhaust.
In the end I only used the stinger and part of one J tube.

Thanks for the link modnrod, that will help next time!
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#880438
Some good spark happening there 👍

dragvw2180 Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#880712
Hey Dave,
Before you order anything else from the States let me know what it is and maybe I can save you some money. Mike

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#880729
The freight is the big killer these days Mike.... USPS is just as exy at UPS or FedEx now....
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

dragvw2180 Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#880859
I know that is the truth, shipping on some parts I ordered from Ron Lummis was half the cost. Mike

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#880867
dragvw2180 wrote:Hey Dave,
Before you order anything else from the States let me know what it is and maybe I can save you some money. Mike
Thank you for the offer Mike, that is very kind of you.

In all fairness to the Bergs,
the cost to me on freight for this exhaust was only $140.

In fact, they stuck with their quote,
and it actually cost THEM another $100,
because the box was too large for USPS, and it had to go on FEDEX.

I have to say that despite this Berg exhaust being a little ugly,
and delivery was 2 months instead of the 2 weeks they told me,
they were the only company that could deliver a 2 1/8 system.
There were other companies I tried, but in the end all that occured was a 2 month delay.

I should not have been so lazy initially
and just done what I did anyway.



With regard to freight costs,
most good US companies
are trying to ONLY charge their COST on freight,
because the have the foresight not to screw over the customer,
and thus get returned business.

Some businesses both here in Australia and USA,
are too short sighted to see that
poor service, and also 'profit taking on freight costs' ensures no repeat business.

Here are some businesses I have dealt with recently that are VERY GOOD with their service, and have a very competitive freight bill.

Pauter Machine Company USA
Mick Motors Brisbane,
(although I wish their yearly break was not til the 16th Jan!)
Bergs,(bit slow though)
Weddle,
Summit,
Best Mufflers Melbourne
Performance Metals Sydney
Performance Wholesale Brisbane
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#880869
I'll second performance wholesale Brisbane. Got all my speed low fittings, braided hose, dzus fasteners, breather tank and roll bar padding from them with a abn. Good service I thought!

Cheers Dave!

dragvw2180 Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#880884
If you order anything else from Summit Racing , order it from the McDonough, GA store (1-770-288-3200) and ask for Mike Chambers. Mike races with me and has given me nice discounts. He will cut you a better deal than anyone else. Mike

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#880905
That's a good list Dave. I can add a couple that I've been using for years too (some for bikes and V8 dinosaurs, sorry!).
Summit (just LOVE that online catalogue!)
Cone Engineering
Part Shark (if you have Yamaha/Suzuki/Can Am gen parts needed, go here)
MPS (Motorcyle Performance Specialties)
JP Cycles (especially if you love your Harley accessories)

Also years ago, I always had good service from CB Performance, and especially Aircooled.net, not sure if they're still that way now though.
Not quite as long ago as when I had a Direct Connection account number however (now I'm showing my age!).
USPS seems to be the best for most stuff that's not too big.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#884681




Fuel tuning:



Ignition tuning:

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#884721
I'm loving it Dave 👍👍

Max power at 8000rpm ... mmmm ... sweet

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#884762
Sweet as DB

Thanks for your time today
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#884765
I like I like..... Is that fuel standoff above the throttle bodies ? I don't fully under stand how that would happen in your case - it's mech injection right ? Wonder what the mist is otherwise ?

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#884773
You can also get fuel standoff on EFI as well, the late model Ducati's with shower injectors (mounted at end of runner tube) can also get it at some revs.
It's just due to the pulsing in the intake, whether it's carbs or injection, at some tuning revs the air-fuel mix will create standoff.

I'd love to look into a window into a tunnel ram plenum one day........

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#884789
modnrod wrote:You can also get fuel standoff on EFI as well, the late model Ducati's with shower injectors (mounted at end of runner tube) can also get it at some revs.
It's just due to the pulsing in the intake, whether it's carbs or injection, at some tuning revs the air-fuel mix will create standoff.

I'd love to look into a window into a tunnel ram plenum one day........
Have a look on you tube,
even formula one have, and USE the stand off to their advantage.



Mine is still a little excessive,
but these are the little things I like to tinker with.

I had to retard the cam a bit to improve piston to valve clearance,
so if I can close the inlet valve a little sooner that may improve the stand off.
...but that means thicker pistons, and more time on the mill. love it!
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#884913
Dave - you are awesome, an inspiration to the mad scientist in us all !!!

How much better in 250atw than the last setup ?

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#884981
About 30 odd hp from memory.
ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE

Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#885036
Nice.... Happy days !

dragvw2180 Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#885060
Way to go Dave, looks and runs great, Mike

BeetleBug Casual Dubber

22 posts · joined Feb 2010 ·

#885095
250.4 at the wheels I reckon?

-BB-

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#885110
When I first changed to these heads it had only 218.2,(and 222 at Leon's dyno(Mania))
which I was disappointed with considering the heads flowed over 300cfm @25",
When I last dynoed with these heads, with bigger duration cam and better ignition it had 229 atw
Now it has 250.4, with even bigger cam and better exhaust.

For comparison, with my old heads on this engine, it had 220.4atw and ran a 10.93@122.31.
My old engine(from 2005 to 2008), with much less cylinder head flow had 220.8 and ran 11.00@121.47.

Car weight has always been 1785lbs(810kg?) (or more, added alternator , msd and fat)
and gearing for 1/4 mile about 8300 to 8400 through the finish.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.