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Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886225
As the title says
Coming from the right side of the engine
It's a 1300 single for in my beetle
Engine is otherwise in good nick, was rebuild about 6 years ago and hardly driven
I've checked all the engine tin to see if that was squeaking, but it isn't. And as it increases with revs and kind of pulses, I'm thinking it's probably mechanical
Any ideas???
It's driving me nuts!!!

Ben386 Officially Full-On Dubber

244 posts · joined Apr 2010 ·

#886226
Its not pinging,is it??

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886229
Ping?? As in running lean??
Dunno, how do you check??

Ben386 Officially Full-On Dubber

244 posts · joined Apr 2010 ·

#886231
Check your timing,check vac advance.
What fuel do you use?

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#886235
I wouldnt describe pining as a "high pitch pulsing squeak"

Not the fan is it??

Try taking off the fan belt and fire it up and see if you can still hear it
Futue te ipsum!!!

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886239
I did a bit of research, I don't think it's pinging, doesn't that sound more clunky??
It sounds like sheet metal on sheet metal squeaking, but it increases with the revs
I've pushed and pulled on everything while the car is running, but the sound doesn't come or go, it stays the same, just a pulsing squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#886240
If it's a whistle type of squeek , I'd go with inlet manifold leak at the head or carby, or even loose head.....
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Ben386 Officially Full-On Dubber

244 posts · joined Apr 2010 ·

#886241
I suppose more of a metallic rattle than squeak.
Not an exhaust leak??

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#886242
generator / alternator bearing??

again - try disconnect fan belt
Futue te ipsum!!!

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886249
It ain't the pulleys, sound is coming from below there
And you can still heard it well from under the car
Also I can't feel any exhaust leaks

I'm hoping it's some tin work loose and not engine internals
I'll re check the tin tomorrow

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#886278
Mattriots wrote:As the title says
Coming from the right side of the engine
It's a 1300 single for in my beetle
Engine is otherwise in good nick, was rebuild about 6 years ago and hardly driven
I've checked all the engine tin to see if that was squeaking, but it isn't. And as it increases with revs and kind of pulses, I'm thinking it's probably mechanical
Any ideas???
It's driving me nuts!!!
Do You have a Gun...??
a big gun.... a special magnesium alloy gun....

pump about 6 shots into the RHS of the engine...

If any big rats run away.....

that was the problem.... If nothing happens...
keep asking..

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#886290
I'm with Matt - describing it as pulsing sounds like an intake leak to me.

Won't be an exhaust leak... they give a boom'y sort of phutt sound... make the engine sound like a tractor.

Check the intake manifold is tight to the head, and that the head studs are all tight.

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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#886292
68AutoBug wrote:
Mattriots wrote:As the title says
Coming from the right side of the engine
It's a 1300 single for in my beetle
Engine is otherwise in good nick, was rebuild about 6 years ago and hardly driven
I've checked all the engine tin to see if that was squeaking, but it isn't. And as it increases with revs and kind of pulses, I'm thinking it's probably mechanical
Any ideas???
It's driving me nuts!!!
Do You have a Gun...??
a big gun.... a special magnesium alloy gun....

pump about 6 shots into the RHS of the engine...

If any big rats run away.....

that was the problem.... If nothing happens...
keep asking..

Lee
Umm... OK... think Lee might be somehow related to Gremlins... don't let near a keyboard after midnight !!!

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Join a car club - get car peeps

My toys
'70 Hillclimb Bug 'Jezebel' w/- Haltech EFI - http://bit.ly/VwTNtQ
'60 KG Coupe - resto kinda started
01 New Beetle - gf's car, but I turn the spanners

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#886293
ok - if it is a "choofing" sound it may be a cracked head.
I had this the other day

Pull the sparkplugs and see if there is a "V" black mark
This was causred by a crack in the sparkplug thread
Futue te ipsum!!!

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886299
Just changed the plugs and it still makes the noise
I'll check the intake bolts are all tight

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886439
Intake manifold is tight
Ah stuff it, this is a job for the mechanic, I quit!!!!!!!

ragged Just ask if you need HELP!

478 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#886457
Matt, drive it up and let me have a listen. I've built one or two engines!

Cheers Dave

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886543
Will do Dave, thanks
I've justt gotta get my wheels back from the painters, so maybe in a week or so, I'll give you a call
Thanks

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#886562
Mattriots wrote:I've justt gotta get my wheels back from the painters in a week or so
There's your problem - it is the brake drums skidding on the road when you downchange. 😂😂
From your ole' mate Jeff

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886692
But it's the best way to lower a beetle, roll on the drums!!!!
I'm gonna do the garden hose stethoscope trick tonight, fingers crossed it a dodgy intake gasket, I don't want a leaky head!!
Chirp chirp

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886763
Ok so I just did the garden hose stethoscope trick, didn't find anything but a couple of small exhaust leaks( empi gt stainless) but these were making more of a dull chugging sound, they didn't sound chirpy like crickets. I'm gonna fix those leaks but I don't think they are making the chirp.
Also no intake leaks, checked them with the hose and sprayed some starter fluid around, nothing
Couldn't find the noise anywhere around the head either.
Anybody have any suggestions?? Its driving me crazy!!!

Also, stupid question, but as this is my first vw, I don't really know.... But this chirpping cricket noise isn't a characteristic noise for these engines is it???? It's a 1300sp

Cheers

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886781
Oh and I pulled the plug leads individually while the car is running, and the noise remained, so I seriously doubt it's engine internals

matara Custom Title Time!

1,342 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#886786
I had a problem like this that had me stumped for ages. In the end it was the pushrod for the fuel pump that was wrong. I had a replacement pump that I thought was for a generator, but was actually for an alternator. The pushrod needs to be changed to suit and because it was a bit too long it cause a metal on metal squeak. Thats why the squeak became faster as rpm rose.

Cheers

Steve

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#886797
Good option! I'll look into that
Also just noticed that the flanges on my stainless empi exhaust aren't welded all the way around the pipe, just tacked!!! There is definite carbon deposits on the outside, I'll weld that up, see if that's the mystery chirpy bird

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#887063
could be rocker failure in the works.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#887119
only a guess but take the belt off and see if it still does it,it's a start
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Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#887132
I'll give the fan removal a crack
But I doubt it

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#887577
Problem solved!!
Dodgy empi welds on the exhaust where the heater riser flange is.
Re welded it and now no more chirpy birds
Thanks for your help guys, no more empi crap for me in the future!!